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CBeebies HD, BBC FOUR HD, BBC NEWS HD placeholders now up
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Digi Man
27-11-2013
Originally Posted by M60:
“I think any chances of C5 appearing on any FTA platform now are pretty much zero. He's thrown his toys out of the pram at the allocation of LCN 105 I reckon, serves him right for p*ssing the BBC and Ofcom around so many times!”

Personally I doubt that was the case, chances are the BBC allocated LCN 105 to BBC Three HD after it was clear that C5 HD wouldn't be launching.
lbear
27-11-2013
Originally Posted by kurgan2:
“Anyone with a Vestel clone may have problems tuning any channels in on Com7.
My Akura AVX665 (firmware 2.44UK) does not find the correct labels and results in loss of ALL HD channels if an new intstallation with auto scan is attempted.
I can only advise you contact the BBC and the receiver manufacturer if you encounter the same.”

If this cannot be fixed, you have a good case for the box being "unfit for purpose" and be eligible for a refund under the Sale of Goods Act up to 6 years after purchase.
chrisy
27-11-2013
Originally Posted by lbear:
“This was all decided by OfCom earlier this year after a consultation.”

Ofcom don't have anything to do with LCN allocations (other than, potentially, dispute resolution and ensuring FRND is adhered to). The consultation and the decision was DigitalUK's.
Roland Mouse
27-11-2013
So Al Jazeera English HD launches on Freeview and not on satellite and on a mux that many can't get. - Well done! What a great exercise in not getting more viewers.

At least those of us who have been sold short on Freeview can get BBC 4 HD and BBC News HD on satellite, but Al Jazeera English HD has gone out of it's way not to get seen.
copierman
27-11-2013
So you don't have a terrestrial HD tuner then?
a516
27-11-2013
Originally Posted by copierman:
“So you don't have a terrestrial HD tuner then?”

Don't start, it'll turn into another thread about Dover not getting the commercially operated extra Freeview HD multiplexes... (which is RM's Chief Gripe)
Sadly when it comes to commercial TV and radio operations, as long the signal reaches the main cities that's the main thing. If it reaches neighbouring rural areas and small towns, that's a bonus! Sadly the BBC's own capacity is full until perhaps the day comes when SD is switched off, but it's got to a point where the BBC can't really not launch BBC Four and BBC News HD because its run out of its own terrestrial capacity! (Mind you, BBC World Service and Radios 1-4 started off on Freeview on commercial multiplexes until there was enough capacity on the BBC's own muxes.)
kasg
27-11-2013
Originally Posted by Digi Man:
“Personally I doubt that was the case, chances are the BBC allocated LCN 105 to BBC Three HD after it was clear that C5 HD wouldn't be launching.”

It wouldn't have been the BBC that allocated it, it was Digital UK. I suppose the BBC might have been able to request that they didn't get 105, but then there would have been nothing to stop Al Jazeera HD grabbing it.
Roland Mouse
27-11-2013
And the excuse for Al Jazeera English HD is?????????

Not on satellite so don't tell me that it's acceptable as I can get it there, as I can't!

A new channel for a few who will be getting the new coms before 2019!
MARKIV
27-11-2013
Originally Posted by kasg:
“It has actually been a right palaver to get my two STBHDIS2010 boxes to add these placeholders. A simple rescan of the mux resulted in an entirely different mux being scanned and Al Jazeera HD being deleted. After multiple rescans, deletion of superfluous channels, manual scans, powering off and goodness knows what I have finally got everything on both boxes. I don't know whether some sort of channel limit is being hit.”

It's surely not channel limit, but more likely channel strength. They're still testing it I thought..

No problems get the placeholders here..
kasg
27-11-2013
Originally Posted by MARKIV:
“It's surely not channel limit, but more likely channel strength. They're still testing it I thought.. .”

Not channel strength, it's as strong as all the others and, as of yesterday, it's in official service, not testing. Anyway, it seems to have sorted itself out for now.
ney
27-11-2013
Im not due to get COM 7 until the 10th December and the local MUX till mid January.

Darren
It's only me
28-11-2013
Any date for sandy heath
Mark C
28-11-2013
Originally Posted by It's only me:
“Any date for sandy heath”

According to the DUK postcode checker, Dec 10th ?
ocav
28-11-2013
Originally Posted by Roland Mouse:
“And the excuse for Al Jazeera English HD is?????????

Not on satellite so don't tell me that it's acceptable as I can get it there, as I can't!

A new channel for a few who will be getting the new coms before 2019!”

I forgot the rule that all channels have to be available everywhere. Want me to list the channels on Freesat that are not on Freeview?

Al Jazzera Eng HD may launch on DSAT, just give it time. But stop complaining, if you have a real problem with Dover not having the new Muxes the move house!
2Bdecided
28-11-2013
Originally Posted by Roland Mouse:
“At least those of us who have been sold short on Freeview can get BBC 4 HD and BBC News HD on satellite, but Al Jazeera English HD has gone out of it's way not to get seen.”

Let me clear up a misapprehension Roland. This entire exercise is less about pleasing viewers, more about encouraging the uptake of DVB-T2 equipment, so the DVB-T muxes can be switched off, allowing a frequency re-plan which will clear more space for mobile broadband.

Similarly, digital switch over was less about offering more channels to viewers than it was about clearing spectrum, to sell.

In short, it is about money, not about making you happy. The government is not interested in making you happy. The regulator is not interested in making you happy. The BBC might be interested in making you happy, but it has to play by the rules of the political game it finds itself in just to survive.


Once you see it in those terms, it all makes perfect sense. That's why BBC HD closed months ago, but BBC Three+Four HD have yet to launch. It's why all those made-in-HD and paid-for-in-HD programmes have been broadcast in SD-only for months. These channels don't exist to please you. They exist for a political/commercial aim of pushing consumer behaviour to facilitate the clearance of terrestrial TV spectrum.

The commercial channels are paying bargain rates to be on COM7 partly because of reduced coverage, but partly to encourage them to be in there in the first place. On satellite they pay market rates, and have the pull of a large pay-TV platform. This, rather than some conspiracy theory, explains the PSB vs COM vs SAT discrepancies you know and love.

Cheers,
David.
xp95
28-11-2013
Originally Posted by ocav:
“I forgot the rule that all channels have to be available everywhere. Want me to list the channels on Freesat that are not on Freeview?

Al Jazzera Eng HD may launch on DSAT, just give it time. But stop complaining, if you have a real problem with Dover not having the new Muxes the move house!”

It seems a bit drastic moving house just for that, doesn't it?
bayards
28-11-2013
Originally Posted by xp95:
“It seems a bit drastic moving house just for that, doesn't it? ”

I moved house so that I could earn points travelling on East Coast Mainline lol
xp95
28-11-2013
Originally Posted by bayards:
“I moved house so that I could earn points travelling on East Coast Mainline lol”

Lol, seriously?!?!
It's only me
28-11-2013
Originally Posted by Mark C:
“According to the DUK postcode checker, Dec 10th ?”

Thanks
Sue_Aitch
09-12-2013
Latest http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/abouttheb...-December-2013
Sexbomb
09-12-2013
Got a running video steam loop now on news hd channel.
kasg
09-12-2013
Originally Posted by Sexbomb:
“Got a running video steam loop now on news hd channel.”

Been discussed on the original COM7 thread - the two threads overlap somewhat. It's even got subtitles!
fenman
09-12-2013
I maybe slow on the uptake but I notice the new channels are in 1081p whereas bbc1 & 2 are 1080i. Are there plans to convert all to 1080p?
xp95
09-12-2013
Originally Posted by Sexbomb:
“Got a running video steam loop now on news hd channel.”

Yes, I noticed it on my V+ box. Exciting, isn't it?
Greebo
09-12-2013
New MHEG slate in place- "CBeebies HD has gone to bed"... on 74, I presume since 7pm.
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