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Old 27-11-2013, 09:17
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Yes I'm sure some people love it especially on mobile devices BUT...

IMO most those mobile features make it about as much use as a chocolate teapot on desktops/laptops. And those f****** "features"

From that anything BUT charming bar to the godawful start screen it just makes you want to take a hammer to the bloody PC. I sometimes think these things are done for no other purpose than to say "look how clever we are" whilst giving scant regard to usability.

I probably spend more time fighting the unwanted features than I do using laptop for it's designed purpose....

And FFS, help tips that you can only turn off through group policy editor. Whoever is responsible for that should be put against a wall and shot!

Anyway, for all those like me, a very useful page that at least makes Windows 8.1 halfway usable again and infinity better than Windows 8 where you can't easily turn all the crap off ...

http://www.fixedbyvonnie.com/2013/07.../#.UpW1aidrdSq
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Old 27-11-2013, 09:50
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Oh that's good..........I never realised you could Shut Down from the so-called 'Start Button'.........on 8.1
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Old 27-11-2013, 10:04
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I find Windows 8.1 very easy to use. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it bad.
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Old 27-11-2013, 10:16
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I find Windows 8.1 very easy to use. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it bad.
But it gives some a lot to talk about. Endlessly.
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Old 27-11-2013, 10:45
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I still don't understand all these comments about spending more time fighting windows than using it

I am sitting here now, in the desktop, using various apps, they all work virtually the same as in Vista, XP, Windows 7

I really hope all these people with issues using Windows 8/8.1 never try to use a tablet or another OS, they would be totally baffled by the change
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Old 27-11-2013, 11:03
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I still don't understand all these comments about spending more time fighting windows than using it

I am sitting here now, in the desktop, using various apps, they all work virtually the same as in Vista, XP, Windows 7

I really hope all these people with issues using Windows 8/8.1 never try to use a tablet or another OS, they would be totally baffled by the change
I am wondering why some seem to hate Windows 8 for. Yes, going to the Start Screen is a bit of an inconvenience but apart from that, in my opinion, it's okay. I've no real issues with it.
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Old 27-11-2013, 11:08
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I am wondering why some seem to hate Windows 8 for. Yes, going to the Start Screen is a bit of an inconvenience but apart from that, in my opinion, it's okay. I've no real issues with it.
I start maybe 5 programmes a day (most from a taskbar), shut the computer down once a week. If I did not develop those horrible horrible Metro apps for W8.1 I would not see Metro either
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Old 27-11-2013, 11:15
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If I did not develop those horrible horrible Metro apps for W8.1 I would not see Metro either
One of the plusses for 8.1, Metro can be ignored

Since 8.1, I am starting to like Metro more (for certain things)

Xbox video in 1/3 screen playing a movie
IE (Metro) for browsing in other 2/3, it nicely decreases the font size to fit all the pages in
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Old 27-11-2013, 13:49
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Just because you don't like it doesn't make it bad.
No but things like endless help tips for functions you never use and don't need on a laptop/desktop and that the normal user can't easily turn off do!

You only have to look on Google to see how many people ask how to turn off that bloody charmless bar to realise how much of an annoyance these things are to some.

All it would take to sort it out is a simple easily accessible options page that allows you to turn all that off...

Absolutely no one should ever be suggesting registry edits or changes through the group policy editor to turn crap like that off!

I really hope all these people with issues using Windows 8/8.1 never try to use a tablet or another OS, they would be totally baffled by the change
I do and I'm not...
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Old 27-11-2013, 13:54
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All it would take to sort it out is a simple easily accessible options page that allows you to turn all that off...

Absolutely no one should ever be suggesting registry edits or changes through the group policy editor to turn crap like that off!
Not sure on your machine

On mine there is a setting to turn the Charm bars off, toggle switch for on/off, no need for registry edits
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Old 27-11-2013, 13:58
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Not sure on your machine

On mine there is a setting to turn the Charm bars off, toggle switch for on/off, no need for registry edits
OK then, lets put it to the test...

What version are you talking about, Windows 8 or 8.1? And how?

I'm not sure what the machine has to do with it seeing as it is a function of the operating system....
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Old 27-11-2013, 14:00
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8.1

run the settings app

go to PC and devices option and then click on Corners and Edges
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Old 27-11-2013, 14:09
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But it gives some a lot to talk about. Endlessly.
Windows 8 whinging seems to have become a sport. Loads of people are complaining about it. I'd win a gold medal in it
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Old 27-11-2013, 14:52
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Windows 8 whinging seems to have become a sport. Loads of people are complaining about it. I'd win a gold medal in it
On this forum now there are far more people whinging about the w8 whingers than w8 whingers themselves. It seems to have become a sport. There's at least one person on this thread who could win a medal in it.
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Old 27-11-2013, 15:01
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Windows 8 whinging seems to have become a sport. Loads of people are complaining about it. I'd win a gold medal in it
See, you may have a mac, but you still need Windows for entertainment
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Old 27-11-2013, 15:26
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On this forum now there are far more people whinging about the w8 whingers than w8 whingers themselves. It seems to have become a sport. There's at least one person on this thread who could win a medal in it.
It seems some have a problem with Windows 8 whingers. Who's that person then?

See, you may have a mac, but you still need Windows for entertainment
Exactly Whinging about Windows 8 is a form of entertainment for me. It passes the time.
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Old 27-11-2013, 18:15
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run the settings app
"The settings app"?

If it's that easy you should be able to talk us through step by step...
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Old 27-11-2013, 18:21
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"The settings app"?

If it's that easy you should be able to talk us through step by step...
Either

Cursor to top/bottom right
Select Settings
Then select Change PC Settings

or

Metro screen
Open all Apps
Click on PC Settings app

Then

Select PC and Devices in left hand panel
Select Edges and Corners
Turn off the charms you don't want
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Old 27-11-2013, 18:22
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Windows 8 whinging seems to have become a sport.
Just maybe if they'd implemented the software properly people wouldn't have cause to complain...

People should not have to resort to Google to turn off annoying unwanted features. It should be obvious and all in one place.

Just about every useful setting on this bloody software is hidden and scattered all over the place.
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Old 27-11-2013, 18:27
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Just maybe if they'd implemented the software properly people wouldn't have cause to complain...

People should not have to resort to Google to turn off annoying unwanted features. It should be obvious and all in one place.

Just about every useful setting on this bloody software is hidden and scattered all over the place.
Settings on mine are all in an obvious place

Perhaps hacking your registry and changing policies has corrupt your installation
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Old 27-11-2013, 20:02
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Settings on mine are all in an obvious place
You keep saying that, but they'll be in the same place as everyone else's running the same version.

Perhaps hacking your registry and changing policies has corrupt your installation
You're beginning to sound like Microsoft now... and I didn't "hack" the registry..

And does anyone know why it keeps booting up with "tapping" enabled despite the fact it is clearly turned off in the touch pad settings?

Or is this just another annoyance we are just supposed to keep quiet about?
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Old 27-11-2013, 20:46
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And does anyone know why it keeps booting up with "tapping" enabled despite the fact it is clearly turned off in the touch pad settings?

Or is this just another annoyance we are just supposed to keep quiet about?
Probably not that helpful to you, but, that doesn't happen on either of my laptops, both on 8.1...Both pads switched off (prefer to use mouse) and they just stay switched off.
So maybe it's not a feature of windows 8.1.....
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Old 27-11-2013, 20:53
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Probably not that helpful to you, but, that doesn't happen on either of my laptops, both on 8.1...Both pads switched off (prefer to use mouse) and they just stay switched off.
So maybe it's not a feature of windows 8.1.....
At the moment the only work round I have is to go to the touch pad settings, enable tapping > apply etc, then go back in disable tapping > apply etc. This "fixes" it until the next time I restart.

Having carried out the tips in my opening post I am much happier about the system as a whole though.
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Old 28-11-2013, 07:25
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I reorginised my computer a couple of days back and thought since I had to reinstall windows I may was well do a clean install of windows 8.1. I have not really used it much yet, but to be honest from what I have seen it is not that much different to windows 8. once i get around to putting my software back on, I will also stick on Start is back again as there is a new version that will work with 8.1 it will then work the same as windows 8 did for me.

The fact is I am using windows less and less, I need it for video editing and that is about it, I prefer to browse the net using Linux, more secure and no memory, processor, drive crunching security software.

Trying to find a linux distro I want to stay with is a small problem, but Mint seems to be a keeper for me.


Nothing have changed much on 8,1 even by allowing people to keep the same background on t he metro UI than the desktop, makes no difference, the Metro UI still seems like a after thought and a different OS.
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Old 28-11-2013, 09:20
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I reorginised my computer a couple of days back and thought since I had to reinstall windows I may was well do a clean install of windows 8.1. I have not really used it much yet, but to be honest from what I have seen it is not that much different to windows 8. once i get around to putting my software back on, I will also stick on Start is back again as there is a new version that will work with 8.1 it will then work the same as windows 8 did for me.

The fact is I am using windows less and less, I need it for video editing and that is about it, I prefer to browse the net using Linux, more secure and no memory, processor, drive crunching security software.

Trying to find a linux distro I want to stay with is a small problem, but Mint seems to be a keeper for me.


Nothing have changed much on 8,1 even by allowing people to keep the same background on t he metro UI than the desktop, makes no difference, the Metro UI still seems like a after thought and a different OS.
I'm not really sure why it seems to load mobile versions of everything either given that it is a laptop install... In some cases I have both - just why?

In most cases I'm uninstalling the mobile versions as it is just clutter but one or two seem integral which is a bit of a problem.
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