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Old 27-11-2013, 08:50
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To anybody who has tried a PS4 or Xbox one do the graphics look any better?
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Old 27-11-2013, 10:04
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I have seen the ps4 in action and you tube/compressed videos can't do the clarity and clean-ness justice. 1080p Native really makes a difference. In Fifa you can clearly see the revolutions of the ball and it clearly has it's own physics. It all really 'pops'. The games just look better.... i was impressed.

For me personaly tho the biggest thing about next-gen or PS4 that i'll be collecting midnight tomorrow is the controller. Its is every bit as good as they say it is and more. It is by far the most comfortable controller i've held and played with it just.... fits somehow. The DS 3 is no way near as good.... and i am coming from mostly 360 game time this gen.

I have wonderd where most people are giving there impression from the x1 are? I know the console is great as some mates of mine are playing it. I supose most are enjoying there new console and can't be botherd to come on here and type about it.

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Old 27-11-2013, 10:09
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Yes, of course they do. Forza looks photo-realistic on many tracks while playing it really is a sight to behold and it's something that never comes across on Youtube vids from what I've seen, you just lose so much fine detail. Ryse looks a clear leap forward in pretty much every way, a lot of the time it looks like CGI. The audio is also noticeably a step up in quality.
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Old 27-11-2013, 10:18
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I think the graphics are about the best thing of all the games at launch. KZ:SF Reso gun and Ryse being the prettiest from what i have read/seen.

Hell I though KNACK was very very good looking (dispte being as shallow as a puddle to play!)
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Old 27-11-2013, 10:55
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They are definitely noticeable, but not as good as PC games.
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Old 27-11-2013, 11:26
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They are definitely noticeable, but not as good as PC games.
For the price... there better.
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Old 27-11-2013, 11:31
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They are definitely noticeable, but not as good as PC games.
This. Its quite surprising really as all other console launches i can remember they had pretty much matched the best PCs could do at the time, but on this occasion they really have not.

One could spend the same on a new PC as you would on a new console bundle and have better graphics and a much more versatile machine.
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Old 27-11-2013, 11:37
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This. Its quite surprising really as all other console launches i can remember they had pretty much matched the best PCs could do at the time, but on this occasion they really have not.

One could spend the same on a new PC as you would on a new console bundle and have better graphics and a much more versatile machine.
Your wrong. For the 349.00 that a ps4 costs you couldn't build a pc thats 'much better' than a ps4 for games and graphics.

For a bigger budget you could out do the ps4. And of course add to it over time. But the original poster is asking about the xbox one and ps4... not a pc.
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Old 27-11-2013, 11:40
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For the price... there better.
Been thinking about this. Those bundles in the Xbox stock thread push the price well into gaming PC territory. Even the 700 one and with the Steam sale caveat could yield a perfectly able rig capable of the latest games and a load of games to play on it. The price myth isn't going to cut it much longer. Even reasonably priced laptops are gradually entering the space.

OP the graphics look great. Coming from last gen you'll really notice the difference it's the extra ram that's good for gaming in general imo.

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Old 27-11-2013, 11:43
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Some games look stunning some, just look sharper.

But if you compare a 360/PS3 launch game to a game that was released a year later or even last week, you can see a huge improvement.

Think the same will apply with the One and PS4.
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Old 27-11-2013, 11:48
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Been thinking about this. Those bundles in the Xbox stock thread push the price well into gaming PC territory. Even the 700 one and with the Steam sale caveat could yield a perfectly able rig capable of the latest games and a load of games to play on it. The price myth isn't going to cut it much longer. Even reasonably priced laptops are gradually entering the space.

OP the graphics look great. Coming from last gen you'll really notice the difference it's the extra ram that's good for gaming in general imo.

Killzone footage (download)
http://www.killzone.com/kz3/en_GB/bl...q-footage.html
More to the point, why would you want a giant pc stack or laptop next to the tv? Pc's are more complcated and more time consuming to set for most.
It's like why by a toaster? Most people already have a grill in there kitchen that can do the toast...? It's just ease of use.
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Old 27-11-2013, 12:01
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Your wrong. For the 349.00 that a ps4 costs you couldn't build a pc thats 'much better' than a ps4 for games and graphics.

For a bigger budget you could out do the ps4. And of course add to it over time. But the original poster is asking about the xbox one and ps4... not a pc.
Notice i said "bundle". The console bundles i have seen have been about 550 up to 1000+. For about 700 you could get a PC which easily outdoes the xbone and ps4 graphics wise.

Plus with PC you can do a lot more and get substantially cheaper games, so price-wise i don't think it would work out that massively different overall.

Of course what you don't get is the ease of setup/use and exclusive games on the console, and that is what a lot of people want.
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Old 27-11-2013, 12:03
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Was wondering how long it would be, before someone turned up with the PC comments.

You didn't mention the fact that you would have to put up with "Windows" (Yuk!) when it comes to gaming PC's.
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Old 27-11-2013, 12:05
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More to the point, why would you want a giant pc stack or laptop next to the tv? Pc's are more complcated and more time consuming to set for most.
It's like why by a toaster? Most people already have a grill in there kitchen that can do the toast...? It's just ease of use.
I'm very much looking forward to the steambox, which should combine all the benefits of PC with the ease of use and front-room-suitability of consoles. The ability to stream directly from my powerful PC in the study and also play more basic games directly on it will be awesome!
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Old 27-11-2013, 12:26
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Also, on PC, not all games are controller compatible (Mass Effect for example). Yes, you can use software like Pinnacle etc, but it's not the same thing. Even with games like BF3 that had controller support, QTE were a nightmare because it only showed the K/M QTE action buttons.
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Old 27-11-2013, 12:29
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More to the point, why would you want a giant pc stack or laptop next to the tv? Pc's are more complcated and more time consuming to set for most.
It's like why by a toaster? Most people already have a grill in there kitchen that can do the toast...? It's just ease of use.
Not all PC cases are giant stacks and you've not met my grill!

Was wondering how long it would be, before someone turned up with the PC comments.

You didn't mention the fact that you would have to put up with "Windows" (Yuk!) when it comes to gaming PC's.
Boot straight into Steam Big Picture and change the welcome screen. PCs are relevant to the discussion given teh money we're talking and especially with Steam box round the corner, and I don't think anyone here is knocking the consoles.
Also the PS4's 'line of games' list is hardly innovation is it?
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Old 27-11-2013, 12:47
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There's no way you can get a brand new PC which could play the latest games for 350. Our last PC cost this amount and has on-board graphics and on board sound, neither of which are up to anything better than basic point & clicks.
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Old 27-11-2013, 13:02
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But they reckon the Steam Box is going to fall between 500 and 1k thats a lot of money for a games machine, which you'll probably need to upgrade every 2-3 years.
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Old 27-11-2013, 13:15
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Just to point out the reason i like to look/comment on these forums... some good points well made and good debate. Not to much fanboy-ism so far thank god.

The steam box is a very good shout. How much it will be will be very interesting. I think it might also blur the line between console and pc.. but i still think it will be more of a console than a pc.
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Old 27-11-2013, 13:22
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For the price... there better.
No they are cheaper - they are not "better"
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Old 27-11-2013, 13:27
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No they are cheaper - they are not "better"
BF4 is almost... like basically the same game on ps4 as it is on pc. The price of admission is cheaper on a ps4. Cheaper is surly better. Why pay more?
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Old 27-11-2013, 13:43
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The thing that holds consoles back is the price of games and how rapidly they fall on the PC. How is it that BF4 (I think, looked at so many recently) is 30 or so on PC yet 50+ on consoles. They keep telling us the PS4 is basically a PC in a small form and transferring from PC to the next gen is easier than every before, well prove it, drop the prices. Yes I know MS and Sony get a cut of every game produced for their machine, but 20 plus 's is getting beyond. And how come console games never seem to fall in price in line with how quickly PC games drop.
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Old 27-11-2013, 14:06
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But they reckon the Steam Box is going to fall between 500 and 1k thats a lot of money for a games machine, which you'll probably need to upgrade every 2-3 years.
Well its not really the case you have to upgrade your PC that often any-more. The pace of advancement has slowed considerably due to the long life span of the last consoles and the need for cross platform development. Whether things will stay that way now the new ones are out though, i dunno.

Also because steamboxes are going to have much more in the way of standard hardware games can be better optomised. Plus smaller OS overhead, etc, should make weaker hardware go further.

I reckon a 600 steambox will last good 4+ years before you start to struggle on the newest games, and when you factor in the cheaper games, its got to be at least on work out less than the overall cost of a console over the same period.

And don't forget unlike the consoles, you might be able to upgrade your steam box by popping in a new graphics card etc! (on some of the variants at least)
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Old 27-11-2013, 14:19
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^^Yes they are saying that you will be able to upgrade, but the trouble is that in 4 years everyone will have a different spec'd machine and you'll be back to checking the small print to determine whether your version of the 'Steam Box" can run a particular game.
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Old 27-11-2013, 14:41
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Some games look stunning some, just look sharper.

But if you compare a 360/PS3 launch game to a game that was released a year later or even last week, you can see a huge improvement.

Think the same will apply with the One and PS4.
Exactly - Give the developers a year or two and you will see a massive difference between the old gen and the new gen consoles
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