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Week 10 (Musical Week) Songs revealed
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tokyo_salsagirl
27-11-2013
Originally Posted by jtnorth:
“Well, I think Susanna will be OK - at least it's a song that was written for people to dance to. Not cartoon baby animals.

And what idiot had the whole catalogue of musicals songs you could do an AS to and thought what Natalie needs is something incredibly intense, joyless and overwrought that as far as I know isn't meant to be danced to at all? I mean, the AS is the perfect dance to have for musicals night, there are so many standards from the old school musicals that the main Strictly audience would have loved. I agree with Artem and Natalie having more modern unexpected song choices sometimes. But I think after the last couple of dances they need something warm and old fashioned that the audience could really out and out love. (Having said all that it is at least a pretty good song. And not, you know baby flipping cartoon animals...)

Patrick's song will appeal to people's nostalgia while still giving him a good chance of doing a good dance. Mark and Ashley's choices are just ugh.”

Can't agree more...

Oh well, at least Sophie will look great on her nun style
Doghouse Riley
27-11-2013
I really hope the singers don't attempt to sing "And I'm Telling You I'm Not Going."
They struggled a bit with "I Will Always Love You" and it took the focus away from the dancing.
RoseAnne
27-11-2013
Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“Could not agree more Natalies music is awful stuff to dance to”

Me too. Overwrought ballad, hardly an AS.
'Good morning, Good Morning' which is Susanna's would have been a better AS.
peeve
27-11-2013
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“I asked why you would pick the Tommy Steele version - must be on another thread. You could be right though - three singers instead of one. Also it is Debbie Reynold's fabulous voice that makes the original so magical for me and Dave Arches wonderful singers no matter how wonderful will not be able to recreate Debbie's tone I suppose.”

The Tommy Steele version that bendymixer posted has three voices and, to be honest, I couldn't hear a lot of difference between that one and the original.

Originally Posted by Summeriris:
“Actually Debbie Reynolds was dubbed for that, I think by Betty Noyes. There was a BBC 4 program about the singers who dubbed for the studios in the 40's and 50's not that long ago.”

I saw that programme! It was fascinating stuff. I've always loved Marnie Nixon's voice, which was used for many great musical films of the 1950s. Sigh.

Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Oh shatter my illusions why don't you! And the irony!!"!!

Oh well whoever she was or wasn't its a wonderful voice.”

As I recall from the programme, Debbie Reynolds did sing some of the songs and I'm pretty sure it's her voice you hear on Good Morning, even if was Jean Hagan dubbing Debbie dubbing Jean...

Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Actually my dismay has been replaced with mirth that the woman who was used to dub the star in the show who was not deemed to have a good enough voice, was herself not deemed to have a good enough voice to play the women who didn't have a good enough voice that she dubbed..

Are you following....”



I am greatly saddened that there are people out there who don't know Singin' In The Rain, which is the greatest musical ever made (fact, not opinion ). If anybody hasn't seen it, do so - it's one of the few musicals where you don't find yourself wishing they'd hurry up with the in between stuff and get back to the songs - the script is hilarious.

But maybe it explains why the producers have ignored the incredible pantheon of wonderful old musicals and opted for a couple of relatively modern Disney films and a pop/dance film - none of which qualifies as a musical in my book.
chels.p
27-11-2013
I don't think Chitty Chitty Bang Bang is a brilliant choice for a charleston. You have whole musicals like Chicago where almost any song would work to a Charleston.

The Bee Gees for a salsa - no thanks. My Favourite Things I thought was a pretty childish choice - and then I saw what Mark was dancing too. They could have picked something from West Side Story or Hair or In The Heights for a Samba!

And A Whole New World...really?? Musicals are jam packed with love songs and that was the best choice for a Rumba? Also -don't hit me - not a huge fan of Singing In The Rain but it'll probably work fine for Susanna's quickstep.
jtnorth
27-11-2013
Originally Posted by peeve:
“As I recall from the programme, Debbie Reynolds did sing some of the songs and I'm pretty sure it's her voice you hear on Good Morning, even if was Jean Hagan dubbing Debbie dubbing Jean...”

Yes, that's how I remembered it from the documentary too - they showed that it wasn't her singing one of the slower songs, but I thought she still did a lot of it - but I could have misunderstood. Of course it was such a good irony because of the story of Singing in the Rain. Completely agree with you about the film, funny and brilliant, one of the greats. The first version of their film with sound makes me fall about laughing.

It's so bizarre that this series alone we've already had songs from Cabaret, The Pyjama Game and Hairspray, and then for musicals night we're getting Disney and Saturday Night Fever. Nothing against them as films, but for dancing from musicals they seem like a wasted opportunity.

I can't wait to see the costume summary - Sophie as a nun, Ashley as a genie, Mark as a lion and Aljaz as John Travolta. And after Pasha as Shrek, I'm really serious.
Doghouse Riley
27-11-2013
It crossed my mind that I bet none of the producers have ever thought to ask Dave Arch for some suggestions for music choices.
Given what we've come to expect from producers appearing on the "Points of View" programme, with their frequent condescending attitude of "we're right, the viewers wrong," it would come as no surprise to me.

After all "they're just the band," aren't they?
RoseAnne
27-11-2013
Originally Posted by jtnorth:
“Yes, that's how I remembered it from the documentary too - they showed that it wasn't her singing one of the slower songs, but I thought she still did a lot of it - but I could have misunderstood. Of course it was such a good irony because of the story of Singing in the Rain. Completely agree with you about the film, funny and brilliant, one of the greats. The first version of their film with sound makes me fall about laughing.

It's so bizarre that this series alone we've already had songs from Cabaret, The Pyjama Game and Hairspray, and then for musicals night we're getting Disney and Saturday Night Fever. Nothing against them as films, but for dancing from musicals they seem like a wasted opportunity.

I can't wait to see the costume summary - Sophie as a nun, Ashley as a genie, Mark as a lion and Aljaz as John Travolta. And after Pasha as Shrek, I'm really serious.”

BIB. Great musical. Talk to the mike, Lena!
peeve
27-11-2013
Originally Posted by RoseAnne:
“BIB. Great musical. Talk to the mike, Lena!”

"You can't talk to me like that! I am a shimmering, glimmering star in the cinema firmament; it says so, right here..."
RoseAnne
27-11-2013
Originally Posted by peeve:
“"You can't talk to me like that! I am a shimmering, glimmering star in the cinema firmament; it says so, right here..." ”

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