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Local TV test transmission today
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chrisy
22-03-2014
Originally Posted by Lee Morris:
“Does anyone know what the situation is with Pontop Pike as when I checked this evening we have BonanzaBonanza as we have for a few weeks now, as well as Pop but a retune has not showed up our local channel for Tyne and Wear.

Does this mean we are not going to receive our locall channel or if not when should we see it appear again?.”

The LCN for the local channel won't be added until they are ready to launch.
Hertz
23-03-2014
Interesting.

Two local TV test transmissions but ultimately no local TV. .

Oh well

I did have high hopes for NVTV, but not Bonanza Bonanza and Pop..
kev
23-03-2014
Originally Posted by Hertz:
“Interesting.

Two local TV test transmissions but ultimately no local TV. .

Oh well

I did have high hopes for NVTV, but not Bonanza Bonanza and Pop..”

These are the two national channels broadcasting on the spare capacity to help share the costs of running the multiplex. The local channels themselves are due to launch over the course of the year.
chrisy
23-03-2014
Originally Posted by kev:
“These are the two national channels broadcasting on the spare capacity to help share the costs of running the multiplex. The local channels themselves are due to launch over the course of the year.”

How many times does this need to be repeated? Can we stick it in bold at the top of the forum or something?
PhilH36
23-03-2014
Originally Posted by kasg:
“Once again, Bonanza*2 is a temporary channel.”

I know, I'm not talking about Bonanza*2, I'm asking what happened to ABC Shopping as referenced in this thread: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1933222
kasg
23-03-2014
Originally Posted by PhilH36:
“I know, I'm not talking about Bonanza*2, I'm asking what happened to ABC Shopping as referenced in this thread: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1933222”

Oh, I see, I don't know then. Either it replaces Bonanza or timeshares with one of the two national channels.
Bizman
23-03-2014
Originally Posted by PhilH36:
“I know, I'm not talking about Bonanza*2, I'm asking what happened to ABC Shopping as referenced in this thread: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1933222”

Originally Posted by tomee:
“ABC Shopping is local TV as Local TV is full it dont look like this channel will make it on air.”

Looks like it will not come about.
Mark C
24-03-2014
Originally Posted by AngusMast:
“It must be quite a challenge setting up the Winter Hill local multiplexes - 3 petals all on the same frequency.”

Yes, and not for the faint hearted !

http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/gallery...71&pageid=1867
gurney-slade
24-03-2014
Originally Posted by PhilH36:
“From Crystal Palace, my Technika box connected to the rooftop aerial is now refusing to pick up the local mux, Bonanza channel, local test card and London Live tests all breaking up, pixellating, completely unwatchable. Yet my portable set in the kitchen complete with indoor aerial is pulling them in loud and clear! ”

I'm in West London. I have an indoor aerial which needs to register 80% signal strength and 100% quality to get a decent picture on all channels and stations. London Live rarely registers more than 72% strength, the signal quality constantly flickers up and down the scale but the reception is perfect. Go figure.
figrin_dan
24-03-2014
Originally Posted by gurney-slade:
“I'm in West London. I have an indoor aerial which needs to register 80% signal strength and 100% quality to get a decent picture on all channels and stations. London Live rarely registers more than 72% strength, the signal quality constantly flickers up and down the scale but the reception is perfect. Go figure.”

London Live is on a very robust QPSK mux.
tomee
24-03-2014
Originally Posted by gurney-slade:
“I'm in West London. I have an indoor aerial which needs to register 80% signal strength and 100% quality to get a decent picture on all channels and stations. London Live rarely registers more than 72% strength, the signal quality constantly flickers up and down the scale but the reception is perfect. Go figure.”

How odd that i am way outside London and i get all 3 Local channels fine no break up at all.Cant wait till 18:30 next Monday.
pilgrim42
27-03-2014
Getting a 55% strength 90% quality signal on UHF39, (I assume from Winter Hill) at the moment. No video/audio. Normal service signal strength is 93% on the same receiver.
Mike.
pilgrim42
27-03-2014
Originally Posted by pilgrim42:
“Getting a 55% strength 90% quality signal on UHF39, (I assume from Winter Hill) at the moment. No video/audio. Normal service signal strength is 93% on the same receiver.
Mike.”

Ignore this - I've just managed to tune it and it's S4C on one of its rare visits through the side lobe of my aerial.
Mike.
Jingle_James
28-03-2014
You're lucky. I don't get anything here. Hopefully, Notts TV should be receivable (?) onces it's up and running?
kev
28-03-2014
Originally Posted by Jingle_James:
“You're lucky. I don't get anything here. Hopefully, Notts TV should be receivable (?) onces it's up and running?”

Both the Nottingham and Waltham transmitters are on air carrying Bonanza Bonanza and Pop. If you can't get them, after a retune, then your not going to get Notts TV on Freeview (although it looks like they are in discussion with Virgin Media and Sky).
Kevin1960
13-04-2014
I live in East Hertfordshire, EN10 postcode and pick up my signal from Crystal Palace.

I have 3 Freeview boxes, but can only see London Live, Pop and Bonanzax2 on 2 of the boxes. The third box recognises the relevant LCNs but when I go to 8, 64 or 75, they're blank. I've tried doing a manual re-tune on Ch29 but this hasn't had the desired effect; the signal strength is shown as "strong" but I still have a blank screen.

chrisy
13-04-2014
Originally Posted by Kevin1960:
“I live in East Hertfordshire, EN10 postcode and pick up my signal from Crystal Palace.

I have 3 Freeview boxes, but can only see London Live, Pop and Bonanzax2 on 2 of the boxes. The third box recognises the relevant LCNs but when I go to 8, 64 or 75, they're blank. I've tried doing a manual re-tune on Ch29 but this hasn't had the desired effect; the signal strength is shown as "strong" but I still have a blank screen.

”

It probably doesn't like QPSK. I'd suggest to look it up in the DTG receiver mode compatibility test report, but most of the failures are censored, which makes it entirely useless. All you can do is check it isn't in there as compatible and assume that means it doesn't work.
Mark C
19-04-2014
Originally Posted by kev:
“Both the Nottingham and Waltham transmitters are on air carrying Bonanza Bonanza and Pop. .”

Waltham local mux Tx antennas now on mb21

http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/gallery...79&pageid=1889
Greebo
22-04-2014
L_MAN has just fired up - data already present, two channels visible. There's a fair chance L_LIV and L_PTN may be up too, worth a look if you may be on one of those petals...

edit: 14:50 and L_MAN is off air now.
Greebo
24-04-2014
Looks like all 3 new local petals from Winter Hill can be considered to be live now - this afternoon Ed Hall tweeted:
Quote:
“Nearly 2.4 million new homes added to the #localtv multiplex this afternoon. Great work up the scary big mast at Winter Hill.”

( https://twitter.com/hall_ed/status/459326145574760448 )
Servicetech 1
26-04-2014
Receiving Bonanza Bonanza and Pop,on UHF CH56,at approx 50% signal strength and quality,here above Colwyn Bay.
Greebo
26-04-2014
Originally Posted by Servicetech 1:
“Receiving Bonanza Bonanza and Pop,on UHF CH56,at approx 50% signal strength and quality,here above Colwyn Bay.”

Winter Hill serving North Wales as always
Anyone seen any sign of L_LIV from Storeton relayed on C30?
Or L_MAN relayed from Saddleworth on C41 - which was mentioned in a 2011 ofcom doc[1] but I'm not sure has happened.


[1] http://d2a9983j4okwzn.cloudfront.net...eport-2011.pdf which is linked from http://maps.ofcom.org.uk/local-tv/ in case you think that looks dodgy - which it does!
reslfj
26-04-2014
Originally Posted by Greebo:
“Winter Hill serving North Wales as always
Anyone seen any sign of L_LIV from Storeton relayed on C30?
Or L_MAN relayed from Saddleworth on C41 - which was mentioned in a 2011 ofcom doc[1] but I'm not sure has happened.

[1] http://d2a9983j4okwzn.cloudfront.net...eport-2011.pdf which is linked from http://maps.ofcom.org.uk/local-tv/ in case you think that looks dodgy - which it does!”

Storeton should be part of phase 1: (official time estimate end of June 2014)

http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/binari...nical_Plan.pdf
http://licensing.ofcom.org.uk/binari...nical_Plan.pdf

But not from Saddleworth .

Note the coverage maps are from this Ofcom paper:
Indicative locations for local television multiplexes
Initial technical assessment /Research Document 9 August 2011


and are based on the more robust DVB-T, QPSK, rate 2/3, guard interval 1/32 signal mode.

Lars

( the rate=3/4 is ~1dB less robust for an aerial with LOS, but almost 3dB worse for indirect signals /Table A1 EN300744 v161 )
marbles333
27-04-2014
Reception of Liverpool Mux UHF56 at around 65% in Colwyn Bay; 80% in Wrexham.
hyperstarsponge
27-04-2014
The North East one only works sometimes for me, I think they knocking Pop and Bonanza off as test transmitters are finished. They should come back on as soon as channel 8 is ready to launch since the other two channels worked before.
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