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Surely you can split recordings with the Topfield!?! Quote:
Originally Posted by Ang
But put together, I can't delete until I've watched both.
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Yes, you can.
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Surely you can split recordings with the Topfield!?!
Nigel, are you saying I can split them and have them both padded? I would love to know how. |
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Not at present; though I think you might be able to do it if you set the recordings manually to specific tuners, which some TAPs allow you to do.
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So you were saying you don't split ... because you wouldn't have padding added before and after the split!!! I think I now follow... ? Quote:
Originally Posted by Ang
Yes, as I said, that was the other option - split recordings with no padding on end of first, start of second for recordings back to back from same channel. When recordings get old, will I still have the recording that has the missing 30 seconds at end or beginning?
Nigel, are you saying I can split them and have them both padded? I would love to know how. |
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So you were saying you don't split ... because you wouldn't have padding added before and after the split!!!
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Why would you need to have padding as you can split exactly between the end of one program and the start of the next. There is always at least a 30 second inter-program interlude of some kind (a "whats on later" promo) even on the non-commercial channels.
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BUT when you split the two progs you've already got everything!?! You've lost me again. ![]() The pad will be at either end of the full same channel continuous two prog recording that gets split. Quote:
Originally Posted by Ang
Because there's no PDC equivalent with Freeview - no padding means good chance of no ending for any Freeview recording.
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Because there's no PDC equivalent with Freeview - no padding means good chance of no ending for any Freeview recording.
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I am not suggesting you do not pad the start and ends of the whole recording. As long as the recording starts before the beginning of the first programme and ends after the finish of the second programme then you have everything. Then just split the recording at the interval between the two programmes.
I can see some possible scenarios: The padding overlap between both programmes is automatically dropped. The second tuner is used so that both programmes have all their padding The first programme has all its padding. The second programme starts when the first programme with end padding finishes recording, but has end padding still. The second programme fails to record. There is an on screen message telling you its not possible, when you manually attempt to edit the timers for start and end padding on both timers Last edited by marcdavis : 03-10-2006 at 13:26. |
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BUT when you split the two progs you've already got everything!?!
You've lost me again. ![]() The pad will be at either end of the full same channel continuous two prog recording that gets split. |
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I am not suggesting you do not pad the start and ends of the whole recording. As long as the recording starts before the beginning of the first programme and ends after the finish of the second programme then you have everything. Then just split the recording at the interval between the two programmes.
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Yep; bring up the progress bar, at roughly the point where you want to cut (I say roughly, because it's not frame accurate, so do it in the break). Press White, and the position mark turns blue; use << or >> to scroll to the beginning or end of the file, then press Blue. Choose the Save option, and the highlighted portion will be cut out of the original file and saved as a new file.
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the highlighted portion will be cut out of the original file and saved as a new file.
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Thanks guys!
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Marc
I notice the updated chart has the Topfield not recording in stand by; this is of course correct but the Toppy does come out of standby to record when a timer is set so I wonder if this distinction is a little academic/misleading. As currently presented it may give the impression that you need to leave the Toppy on to record from a timer. Richard |
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Marc
I notice the updated chart has the Topfield not recording in stand by; this is of course correct but the Toppy does come out of standby to record when a timer is set so I wonder if this distinction is a little academic/misleading. As currently presented it may give the impression that you need to leave the Toppy on to record from a timer. Richard Just a suggestion ![]() hodg |
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Pehaps the table could be amended to show 'record from standby' bearing in mind the Toppy will return in to stanby when the recording finishes. I don't particularly see any huge advantage in recording in standby as surely power consumption is only going be negligibly different with the HDD's active.
Just a suggestion ![]() hodg Richard |
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Pehaps the table could be amended to show 'record from standby' bearing in mind the Toppy will return in to stanby when the recording finishes. I don't particularly see any huge advantage in recording in standby as surely power consumption is only going be negligibly different with the HDD's active.
Just a suggestion ![]() hodg It may sound like I don't like the Toppy but the opposite is true. It's the only machine that, if you don't like something, there's almost certainly a TAP that will change it or at least make it more livable. But to say that the Toppy records in standby would be misleading to someone like me who has had a different machine that really does. I think you may need two rows to the spreadsheet, but then, would there be any that you had to leave on to get them to record, i.e. would not record FROM standby? That would be pretty pathetic. |
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Huge advantage to recording in standby - it doesn't take over your television set! This might also relate to why you can record the same channel simultaneously on the Fusion but not the Toppy (i.e. take both tuners for one channel).
It may sound like I don't like the Toppy but the opposite is true. It's the only machine that, if you don't like something, there's almost certainly a TAP that will change it or at least make it more livable. But to say that the Toppy records in standby would be misleading to someone like me who has had a different machine that really does. I think you may need two rows to the spreadsheet, but then, would there be any that you had to leave on to get them to record, i.e. would not record FROM standby? That would be pretty pathetic. |
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Huge advantage to recording in standby - it doesn't take over your television set! This might also relate to why you can record the same channel simultaneously on the Fusion but not the Toppy (i.e. take both tuners for one channel).
It may sound like I don't like the Toppy but the opposite is true. It's the only machine that, if you don't like something, there's almost certainly a TAP that will change it or at least make it more livable. But to say that the Toppy records in standby would be misleading to someone like me who has had a different machine that really does. I think you may need two rows to the spreadsheet, but then, would there be any that you had to leave on to get them to record, i.e. would not record FROM standby? That would be pretty pathetic. I still think it was important to note that the Toppy would record from standby as it was equally misleading the way the table was. Nice compromise there Marc hodg |
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Originally Posted by marcdavis
If sounds like the topfield will start up and not stay in standby; interupt your movie and take over the screen, or if your TV was in standby it will be switched on also and output sound and video.
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It depends on your TV - some wake up at the slightest provocation, or auto-switch.
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Apologies if this has been pointed out already...
Table is unintelligible with Firefox, the ticks and crosses turn into R and T. Suggest short term fix to add "tick character" = Yes, "Cross character" = No at the top. Great work keeping this up. |
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Apologies if this has been pointed out already...
Table is unintelligible with Firefox, the ticks and crosses turn into R and T. ... |
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