Originally Posted by mogzyboy:
“Blimey, plenty of nonsense being spoken on here about both Three and EE.”
“Blimey, plenty of nonsense being spoken on here about both Three and EE.”
What's nonsense is that ?
EE better value then 3 now ?
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Originally Posted by SkyPlatinum:
“EE is comparable
Unlimited calls and texts in uk and abroad
Free Deezer which is better then spotify
20GB of double speed 4G with much much better coverage then Vodafone
International Roaming included
£52.99 per month
There is an upfront fee of £79.00 but you can get £93 cashback through quidco which means you get the phone for free and in theory a £14 credit”
“EE is comparable
Unlimited calls and texts in uk and abroad
Free Deezer which is better then spotify
20GB of double speed 4G with much much better coverage then Vodafone
International Roaming included
£52.99 per month
There is an upfront fee of £79.00 but you can get £93 cashback through quidco which means you get the phone for free and in theory a £14 credit”
24 months =/= 12 months.
It's not comparable at all really.
This goes back to what i said before, there is no such thing as a perfect network or perfect deal. People will see value in everything, for example i see value in Three's One Plan due to the unlimited data, free 4G and low pricing + great 3G coverage. Others see value in EE due to the already rolled out 4G, international plan + deezer. The extra cost compared to Three is not an issue as the plan holds more value for these people. Sethpet see's value in Vodafones plan due to the fact he is saving £10 on Spotify premium and getting a Note 3 for pretty much phone cost over 12 months with 4G data and mins/texts. A great deal. But for me 8GB is not enough, and for others Vodafones 3G isn't good, and for others the lack of free international roaming is a deal breaker etc...
So it's pointless saying Deal A is better or whatever because everyone has different needs and wants and what one person perceives as great value for money may not be seen as great value by someone else.
Originally Posted by jabbamk1:
“24 months =/= 12 months.
It's not comparable at all really.
This goes back to what i said before, there is no such thing as a perfect network or perfect deal. People will see value in everything, for example i see value in Three's One Plan due to the unlimited data, free 4G and low pricing + great 3G coverage. Others see value in EE due to the already rolled out 4G, international plan + deezer. The extra cost compared to Three is not an issue as the plan holds more value for these people. Sethpet see's value in Vodafones plan due to the fact he is saving £10 on Spotify premium and getting a Note 3 for pretty much phone cost over 12 months with 4G data and mins/texts. A great deal. But for me 8GB is not enough, and for others Vodafones 3G isn't good, and for others the lack of free international roaming is a deal breaker etc...
So it's pointless saying Deal A is better or whatever because everyone has different needs and wants and what one person perceives as great value for money may not be seen as great value by someone else.”
“24 months =/= 12 months.
It's not comparable at all really.
This goes back to what i said before, there is no such thing as a perfect network or perfect deal. People will see value in everything, for example i see value in Three's One Plan due to the unlimited data, free 4G and low pricing + great 3G coverage. Others see value in EE due to the already rolled out 4G, international plan + deezer. The extra cost compared to Three is not an issue as the plan holds more value for these people. Sethpet see's value in Vodafones plan due to the fact he is saving £10 on Spotify premium and getting a Note 3 for pretty much phone cost over 12 months with 4G data and mins/texts. A great deal. But for me 8GB is not enough, and for others Vodafones 3G isn't good, and for others the lack of free international roaming is a deal breaker etc...
So it's pointless saying Deal A is better or whatever because everyone has different needs and wants and what one person perceives as great value for money may not be seen as great value by someone else.”
Agreed. No sorry i didn't see the 12 months for some reason. That's a good deal
Originally Posted by jabbamk1:
“24 months =/= 12 months.
It's not comparable at all really.
This goes back to what i said before, there is no such thing as a perfect network or perfect deal. People will see value in everything, for example i see value in Three's One Plan due to the unlimited data, free 4G and low pricing + great 3G coverage. Others see value in EE due to the already rolled out 4G, international plan + deezer. The extra cost compared to Three is not an issue as the plan holds more value for these people. Sethpet see's value in Vodafones plan due to the fact he is saving £10 on Spotify premium and getting a Note 3 for pretty much phone cost over 12 months with 4G data and mins/texts. A great deal. But for me 8GB is not enough, and for others Vodafones 3G isn't good, and for others the lack of free international roaming is a deal breaker etc...
So it's pointless saying Deal A is better or whatever because everyone has different needs and wants and what one person perceives as great value for money may not be seen as great value by someone else.”
“24 months =/= 12 months.
It's not comparable at all really.
This goes back to what i said before, there is no such thing as a perfect network or perfect deal. People will see value in everything, for example i see value in Three's One Plan due to the unlimited data, free 4G and low pricing + great 3G coverage. Others see value in EE due to the already rolled out 4G, international plan + deezer. The extra cost compared to Three is not an issue as the plan holds more value for these people. Sethpet see's value in Vodafones plan due to the fact he is saving £10 on Spotify premium and getting a Note 3 for pretty much phone cost over 12 months with 4G data and mins/texts. A great deal. But for me 8GB is not enough, and for others Vodafones 3G isn't good, and for others the lack of free international roaming is a deal breaker etc...
So it's pointless saying Deal A is better or whatever because everyone has different needs and wants and what one person perceives as great value for money may not be seen as great value by someone else.”
The price on the vodafone website for the 12 month, 8gb data, note 3 deal is a lot more expensive online it states
£62 per Month and £149 for the phone
The 24 month deal is £57 per Month and £8 for the phone, which is a lot more then EE.
Originally Posted by jabbamk1:
“24 months =/= 12 months.
It's not comparable at all really.
This goes back to what i said before, there is no such thing as a perfect network or perfect deal. People will see value in everything, for example i see value in Three's One Plan due to the unlimited data, free 4G and low pricing + great 3G coverage. Others see value in EE due to the already rolled out 4G, international plan + deezer. The extra cost compared to Three is not an issue as the plan holds more value for these people. Sethpet see's value in Vodafones plan due to the fact he is saving £10 on Spotify premium and getting a Note 3 for pretty much phone cost over 12 months with 4G data and mins/texts. A great deal. But for me 8GB is not enough, and for others Vodafones 3G isn't good, and for others the lack of free international roaming is a deal breaker etc...
So it's pointless saying Deal A is better or whatever because everyone has different needs and wants and what one person perceives as great value for money may not be seen as great value by someone else.”
“24 months =/= 12 months.
It's not comparable at all really.
This goes back to what i said before, there is no such thing as a perfect network or perfect deal. People will see value in everything, for example i see value in Three's One Plan due to the unlimited data, free 4G and low pricing + great 3G coverage. Others see value in EE due to the already rolled out 4G, international plan + deezer. The extra cost compared to Three is not an issue as the plan holds more value for these people. Sethpet see's value in Vodafones plan due to the fact he is saving £10 on Spotify premium and getting a Note 3 for pretty much phone cost over 12 months with 4G data and mins/texts. A great deal. But for me 8GB is not enough, and for others Vodafones 3G isn't good, and for others the lack of free international roaming is a deal breaker etc...
So it's pointless saying Deal A is better or whatever because everyone has different needs and wants and what one person perceives as great value for money may not be seen as great value by someone else.”
Bit like this then...
http://www.aldi.co.uk/fileadmin/fm-d...rozen_Peas.mp4
Originally Posted by SkipTracer:
“Bit like this then...
http://www.aldi.co.uk/fileadmin/fm-d...rozen_Peas.mp4”
“Bit like this then...
http://www.aldi.co.uk/fileadmin/fm-d...rozen_Peas.mp4
”
errrr what?
That's not the point i was trying to make haha.
Originally Posted by SkyPlatinum:
“There are various reasons for dropped calls. The issue related to the switching from LTE to 2g/3g due to VoLTE not being used by any network.. It's been resolved. I suggest you contact EE”
“There are various reasons for dropped calls. The issue related to the switching from LTE to 2g/3g due to VoLTE not being used by any network.. It's been resolved. I suggest you contact EE”
I don't think the main issue has anything to do with LTE, since most complaints are from people who experienced the problem before LTE existed, were never on LTE to begin with, and/or never even had an LTE handset.
Originally Posted by sethpet:
“Galaxy Note 3
12 month
£0 upfront
£52 a month
Unl calls and texts
8gb of data (3 months unlimited)
No tethering restrictions.
Free spotify which was costing me £10 a month
Total cost £624
Saving £120 on Spotify
Still not found a better deal anywhere than the one Vodafone gave me.”
“Galaxy Note 3
12 month
£0 upfront
£52 a month
Unl calls and texts
8gb of data (3 months unlimited)
No tethering restrictions.
Free spotify which was costing me £10 a month
Total cost £624
Saving £120 on Spotify
Still not found a better deal anywhere than the one Vodafone gave me.”
8gb of data is very low.
20 gb of data is low
40 50 gb is good
unlimited is what the standard should be
i am using 40 - 60 gb a month on 3.
Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq:
“If everybody used that much the network would literally collapse.”
“If everybody used that much the network would literally collapse.”
no it will not... if all of us were using as much , they would improve the network , thus evolving. it s a positive thing.
just like home internet... it went from dial up to fiber optics (not in britain as much). for demand there is supply.
Incorrect. Stop talking bollocks, what you're suggesting is simply impossible.
There is not infinite supply of spectrum. If they could just add more of it whenever they wanted they wouldn't have had to pay billions of pounds for it. It is not possible to "improve the network" ad infinitum. Both the technology and the laws of physics impose limitations.
You also can't connect a mobile phone by fibre optics.
There is not infinite supply of spectrum. If they could just add more of it whenever they wanted they wouldn't have had to pay billions of pounds for it. It is not possible to "improve the network" ad infinitum. Both the technology and the laws of physics impose limitations.
You also can't connect a mobile phone by fibre optics.
Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq:
“Incorrect. Stop talking bollocks, what you're suggesting is simply impossible.
There is not infinite supply of spectrum. If they could just add more of it whenever they wanted they wouldn't have had to pay billions of pounds for it. It is not possible to "improve the network" ad infinitum. Both the technology and the laws of physics impose limitations.
You also can't connect a mobile phone by fibre optics.”
“Incorrect. Stop talking bollocks, what you're suggesting is simply impossible.
There is not infinite supply of spectrum. If they could just add more of it whenever they wanted they wouldn't have had to pay billions of pounds for it. It is not possible to "improve the network" ad infinitum. Both the technology and the laws of physics impose limitations.
You also can't connect a mobile phone by fibre optics.”
Exactly
Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq:
“Incorrect. Stop talking bollocks, what you're suggesting is simply impossible.
There is not infinite supply of spectrum. If they could just add more of it whenever they wanted they wouldn't have had to pay billions of pounds for it. It is not possible to "improve the network" ad infinitum. Both the technology and the laws of physics impose limitations.
You also can't connect a mobile phone by fibre optics.”
“Incorrect. Stop talking bollocks, what you're suggesting is simply impossible.
There is not infinite supply of spectrum. If they could just add more of it whenever they wanted they wouldn't have had to pay billions of pounds for it. It is not possible to "improve the network" ad infinitum. Both the technology and the laws of physics impose limitations.
You also can't connect a mobile phone by fibre optics.”
so you are saying that evolution will simply stop? you are joking. mobile internet is far more important than home internet.
it may not be possible NOW and with the current technology but it will happen.
to say that evolution will stop is bollocks and plain stupid. if humans need to fight a war they will make and perfect weapons. if humans want huge amounts of mobile data , that is what they will have. it s pure logic and history shows us the same.
how do you imagine a future with 1 gb a month where now you have phones that can film 4k and a single picture sent to fb has more than 3 4 megs?
spectrum might be limited by laws of nature , but who is to say that nothing will change? long time ago people thought that only birds can fly , and now we sending satellites to space.
you are very close minded to think that all will ground to a halt just because you cannot conceive a open minded future and evolution.
Urgh. Retard.
Can you get that into your thick skull now?
Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq:
“If everybody used that today much the network would literally collapse.”
“If everybody used that today much the network would literally collapse.”
Can you get that into your thick skull now?
What exactly is the problem here, if the network goes to overload and breaks then so be it but the thing is, it hasn’t so just keep on keeping on as I’m loving my 14 Mbs download free of charge from Samba on the 3 network.
If it breaks I will switch to EE, if I can afford it, but to then just keep with the network that suits you sir and don’t worry your little head about users on other networks.:yawn:
If it breaks I will switch to EE, if I can afford it
, but to then just keep with the network that suits you sir and don’t worry your little head about users on other networks.:yawn:
Well I could rant on about how I'm on every network and it's users like him that slow my 3 connection to a crawl when I need it the most...
But I find it easier just to swap to my EE 4G when that happens.
But I find it easier just to swap to my EE 4G when that happens.
Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq:
“Well I could rant on about how I'm on every network and it's users like him that slow my 3 connection to a crawl when I need it the most...
But I find it easier just to swap to my EE 4G when that happens.”
“Well I could rant on about how I'm on every network and it's users like him that slow my 3 connection to a crawl when I need it the most...
But I find it easier just to swap to my EE 4G when that happens.”
Technically.. that shouldn't happen if both are being supplied by the same site...
I thought one key feature was MBNL allowed operators to maintain control of their own separate backhaul, spectrum, and traffic management/classification/prioritisation?
Which means heavy 3 users should have no effect on EE users. Especially not 4G users.
Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying?
Which means heavy 3 users should have no effect on EE users. Especially not 4G users.
Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying?
Originally Posted by adi_carnat:
“no it will not... if all of us were using as much , they would improve the network , thus evolving. it s a positive thing.
just like home internet... it went from dial up to fiber optics (not in britain as much). for demand there is supply.”
“no it will not... if all of us were using as much , they would improve the network , thus evolving. it s a positive thing.
just like home internet... it went from dial up to fiber optics (not in britain as much). for demand there is supply.”
You are talking nonsense.
If a fixed line company fills up the bandwidth in their cable, they put another cable down.
What do you propose a mobile firm does....build a new layer of air?
I stream spotify every day in my car and at my desk. I use about 6gb a month...I have no idea how someone uses 10's of ggigs a month on a mobile device.
Originally Posted by sethpet:
“You are talking nonsense.
If a fixed line company fills up the bandwidth in their cable, they put another cable down.
What do you propose a mobile firm does....build a new layer of air?
I stream spotify every day in my car and at my desk. I use about 6gb a month...I have no idea how someone uses 10's of ggigs a month on a mobile device.”
“You are talking nonsense.
If a fixed line company fills up the bandwidth in their cable, they put another cable down.
What do you propose a mobile firm does....build a new layer of air?
I stream spotify every day in my car and at my desk. I use about 6gb a month...I have no idea how someone uses 10's of ggigs a month on a mobile device.”
Technically a mobile operator could reposition masts and lower transmission power so that they are able to reuse the spectrum again closer to the other masts. It's very costly though and not always possible because of the need for planning permission.
Originally Posted by Three:
“Technically a mobile operator could reposition masts and lower transmission power so that they are able to reuse the spectrum again closer to the other masts. It's very costly though and not always possible because of the need for planning permission.”
“Technically a mobile operator could reposition masts and lower transmission power so that they are able to reuse the spectrum again closer to the other masts. It's very costly though and not always possible because of the need for planning permission.”
Which is where more of the small cells come in for urban areas. However like you say expensive and unrealistic for people to expect huge volumes of unlimited data for every user. That's why throttling is applied to tethering when it reaches a certain limit of capacity.
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