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The so-called "BBC advantage"
I've been surprised to read so many posts saying the judges favour Patrick and Susanna because they are BBC employees. To be honest, I find this really hard to believe. I had a look back at who had the highest average score from the judges per series to see how many of them had been BBC employees:
Series 1: Natasha Kaplinsky BBC Newsreader - Didn't watch this series but many people seemed to think she was one of the better dancers Series 2: Jill in Eastenders - I think most people would agree she was the standout dancer this series and probably one of the best latin dancers ever on Strictly Series 3: Zoe Ball correct me if Im wrong but I dont think she was a regular BBC employee at the time Series 4: Emma Bunton not a regular BBC employee Series 5: Alesha not a regular BBC employee Series 6: Rachel not a regular BBC employee Series 7: Ricky Whittle an employee of Channel 4, BBC rival Series 8: Kara in EastEnders - Most people would agree she was the standout this year. Series 9: Harry not a regular BBC employee and had a higher average than BBC employee Chelsee Series 10: Denise not a regular BBC employee So out of ten series, the judges have only given the highest average to three who were regular beeb employees. And I think most viewers would agree that Kara, Jill and Natasha deserved their respective top judges spots. Really, I think the so-called "beeb advantage" is pretty much non-existant. |
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Kara had left EastEnders over a year previously. This also overlooks that in series 7 the eventual winner was a BBC employee, one of the current favourites this year is a BBC employee, and Alex Jones - a BBC employee - progressed through the competition until she found herself in a position in the semi-final where it was virtually impossible for her to get out of the bottom two.
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Kara had left EastEnders over a year previously. This also overlooks that in series 7 the eventual winner was a BBC employee, one of the current favourites this year is a BBC employee, and Alex Jones - a BBC employee - progressed through the competition until she found herself in a position in the semi-final where it was virtually impossible for her to get out of the bottom two.
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I remember Alex Jones was continuously overmarked by the judges and that is probably how she lasted until the semi-final. She never got the harsh criticism that poor Sophie is getting. Is it because Sophie is not going on tour and they want her out now?
That was a low point for Craig, I thought. Neither woman was treated kindly by the judges. |
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Alex Jones wasn't particularly overmarked in the scheme of Series 9 to be honest. I struggle to see who out of the mid-table was supposed to be superior to her. Robbie Savage? Lulu? Audley Harrison? There were plenty of times (Week 4, Week 7, Week 9, Week 10) when she was in a dangerous position and the public saved her.
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I find it unbelievable that anyone would think for a minute that the judges are bias towards BBC employees!
The public are the deciding factor and I think that Craig (who I love BTW) is really hard on Susanna! I really wonder what goes on in the head of some people with their conspiracy theories! Seriously! |
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The so-called "BBC advantage"
When it's "your ball" you've always got an advantage.
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When it's "your ball" you've always got an advantage.
Seriously! I can't think of one! The dancers are the employees NOT the employers so why would there be a need for favouritism? I don't even like the BBC (too English bias for my liking) but I find even the suggestion farcical! |
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What would be the benefit of doing this?
I can't think of one! The dancers are the employees NOT the employers so why would there be a need for favouritism? I don't even like the BBC (too English bias for my liking) but I find even the suggestion farcical! You'll find some credible answers. |
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I remember Alex Jones was continuously overmarked by the judges and that is probably how she lasted until the semi-final. She never got the harsh criticism that poor Sophie is getting. Is it because Sophie is not going on tour and they want her out now?
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I think they favour the ones they think have the most potential nothing to do with the BBC
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The BBC advantage comes from the viewers rather than the judges. I'm guessing that most households nowadays entirely avoid some major channels and they have no idea who the celebs from those channels are. The Strictly viewers are guaranteed to watch BBC some of the time and are more likely to be familiar with the BBC celebrities.
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Read through any thread relative to your question.
You'll find some credible answers. I have seen no evidence of this whatsoever! The only thing I've seen that annoyed me was Craig saying that Patrick was the best male dancer of the series. Poppycock is the word that jumps to my mind!
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Why would I do that? I have seen no evidence of this whatsoever! The only thing I've seen that annoyed me was Craig saying that Patrick was the best male dancer of the series. Poppycock is the word that jumps to my mind! ![]() You would if you actually wanted an answer to the question you asked. Either way, I don't mind. |
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I've been surprised to read so many posts saying the judges favour Patrick and Susanna because they are BBC employees. To be honest, I find this really hard to believe. I had a look back at who had the highest average score from the judges per series to see how many of them had been BBC employees:
Series 1: Natasha Kaplinsky BBC Newsreader - Didn't watch this series but many people seemed to think she was one of the better dancers Series 2: Jill in Eastenders - I think most people would agree she was the standout dancer this series and probably one of the best latin dancers ever on Strictly Series 3: Zoe Ball correct me if Im wrong but I dont think she was a regular BBC employee at the time Series 4: Emma Bunton not a regular BBC employee Series 5: Alesha not a regular BBC employee Series 6: Rachel not a regular BBC employee Series 7: Ricky Whittle an employee of Channel 4, BBC rival Series 8: Kara in EastEnders - Most people would agree she was the standout this year. Series 9: Harry not a regular BBC employee and had a higher average than BBC employee Chelsee Series 10: Denise not a regular BBC employee So out of ten series, the judges have only given the highest average to three who were regular beeb employees. And I think most viewers would agree that Kara, Jill and Natasha deserved their respective top judges spots. Really, I think the so-called "beeb advantage" is pretty much non-existant. |
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I find it unbelievable that anyone would think for a minute that the judges are bias towards BBC employees!
The public are the deciding factor and I think that Craig (who I love BTW) is really hard on Susanna! I really wonder what goes on in the head of some people with their conspiracy theories! Seriously!
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Kara had left EastEnders over a year previously. This also overlooks that in series 7 the eventual winner was a BBC employee, one of the current favourites this year is a BBC employee, and Alex Jones - a BBC employee - progressed through the competition until she found herself in a position in the semi-final where it was virtually impossible for her to get out of the bottom two.
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I don't think Susanna is being overmarked but she's certainly had more than her fair share of good slots in the running order.
4/6 1/15 10/14 13/13 10/12 11/11 5/10 8/9 1/8 7/7 The only times she has been on early she has opened the show. Even when she was 5/10 they sandwiched her between Dave and Mark to make her look better. I do like her though
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I find it unbelievable that anyone would think for a minute that the judges are bias towards BBC employees!
The public are the deciding factor and I think that Craig (who I love BTW) is really hard on Susanna! I really wonder what goes on in the head of some people with their conspiracy theories! Seriously! |
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I've been surprised to read so many posts saying the judges favour Patrick and Susanna because they are BBC employees. To be honest, I find this really hard to believe. I had a look back at who had the highest average score from the judges per series to see how many of them had been BBC employees:
Series 1: Natasha Kaplinsky BBC Newsreader - Didn't watch this series but many people seemed to think she was one of the better dancers Series 2: Jill in Eastenders - I think most people would agree she was the standout dancer this series and probably one of the best latin dancers ever on Strictly Series 3: Zoe Ball correct me if Im wrong but I dont think she was a regular BBC employee at the time Series 4: Emma Bunton not a regular BBC employee Series 5: Alesha not a regular BBC employee Series 6: Rachel not a regular BBC employee Series 7: Ricky Whittle an employee of Channel 4, BBC rival Series 8: Kara in EastEnders - Most people would agree she was the standout this year. Series 9: Harry not a regular BBC employee and had a higher average than BBC employee Chelsee Series 10: Denise not a regular BBC employee So out of ten series, the judges have only given the highest average to three who were regular beeb employees. And I think most viewers would agree that Kara, Jill and Natasha deserved their respective top judges spots. Really, I think the so-called "beeb advantage" is pretty much non-existant. |
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I don't even like the BBC (too English bias for my liking) but in the case of Strictly I think some people are over analysing the whole thing.
I watch to be entertained and I have seen NOTHING that makes me think that the BBC show any bias towards those who work for them. |
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The only times she has been on early she has opened the show.
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Even when she was 5/10 they sandwiched her between Dave and Mark to make her look better.
A far more reasonable explanation would be that the balance of the show and the running order would be more even, as this is primarily a show that people sit down to watch and enjoy as a show.
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I thought Denise worked all Summer on BBC's athletics coverage.
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Series 10 was denise van outen, the actress. I think you've confused her for denise lewis, sportswoman, series 2.....
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If there was BBC bias then the year Kara won the judges favourite should have been Matt Baker (BBC employee) but he wasn't.
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