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Old 10-02-2005, 08:33
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I have noticed recently that when there is a really dramatic scene, or when a character is angry in Corrie instead of saying f*****g h*ll - they same something like "Flippin Hek" instead and I just think it seems so stupid that a grown man/woman would talk like this.

One character in particular that makes me laugh out loud when he talks Corrie-ish is Tommy Harris! But Kevin Webster does it a lot as well I have noticed.
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Old 10-02-2005, 08:40
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You've only just noticed !
It's because of the watershed, obviously and I for one am glad not to have to listen to Effing and so on. I watched Shameless last night and the C word was used several time, which I hate. I wouldnt want that in Corrie. But at least its on late at night. Perhaps I'm just a prude
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Old 10-02-2005, 09:12
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Its the same with Neighbours and all the things Stingray says...calling people caketaker, using the word spiggin etc etc...the producers of Neighbours did that because they want to give the impression that Stingray is a cusser, but can't use the actual cusswords!

Its the same with Tommy I imagine.
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Old 10-02-2005, 09:33
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Yeh their hands are tied I'm afraid when it comes to swearing, they just can't do it, unless Corrie is moved to a 9pm slot.
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Old 10-02-2005, 10:07
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Originally Posted by WalfordWill
Yeh their hands are tied I'm afraid when it comes to swearing, they just can't do it, unless Corrie is moved to a 9pm slot.
And even then, it only works if handled right.
Does no one remember the cringe-worthy Hollyoaks late night episodes which had everyone swearing just for the sake of it?!
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Old 10-02-2005, 10:13
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Originally Posted by amos_brearley
And even then, it only works if handled right.
Does no one remember the cringe-worthy Hollyoaks late night episodes which had everyone swearing just for the sake of it?!
I didn't see those, but I did see late night Brookside when Jimmy Corkhill was cussing like a docker. It just sounded like a naughty schoolboy who's away from his mummy for the first time and swearing just because he can.
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Old 10-02-2005, 10:15
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I didn't see those, but I did see late night Brookside when Jimmy Corkhill was cussing like a docker. It just sounded like a naughty schoolboy who's away from his mummy for the first time and swearing just because he can.
Exactly! And the best thing was, they all turned back into nuns again in the daytime episodes. Well actually, it wasn't just the swearing they forgot about, they sorta pretended none of the late night stuff happened!
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Old 10-02-2005, 10:31
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I've heard "B*stard" and "Bitch" in Corrie before. And Bloody.
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Old 10-02-2005, 10:50
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I had to laugh a few weeks ago, when Frankie deliberately made Leanne sit on a fork.

The scheming, chavvy, spiteful Leanne came out with "Flippin' heck, whats that?!"

I thought this was classic - so unrealistic! But obviously I know there are boundaries before the watershed.

Still, even a "Bloody hell - whats that?!" would have been better! Or have the PC brigade banned that saying as well?
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Old 10-02-2005, 10:58
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Originally Posted by manfrommars
I had to laugh a few weeks ago, when Frankie deliberately made Leanne sit on a fork.

The scheming, chavvy, spiteful Leanne came out with "Flippin' heck, whats that?!"

I thought this was classic - so unrealistic! But obviously I know there are boundaries before the watershed.

Still, even a "Bloody hell - whats that?!" would have been better! Or have the PC brigade banned that saying as well?
lol hadn't thought about that before! i suppose i'm just so used to "corrie language" that you don't notice how unrealistic it is.
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Old 10-02-2005, 11:08
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What words are acceptable?

Crap is, wasnt at one time but is now.

Piss? Is that allowed, I sure someone said that once

Arsehole?
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Old 10-02-2005, 12:39
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Originally Posted by Polly_Perkins
What words are acceptable?

Crap is, wasnt at one time but is now.

Piss? Is that allowed, I sure someone said that once

Arsehole?
Do you know, I dont think "crap" can even be used. The Corrie, EE, Emmerdale and Hollyoaks characters are forever talking about stuff being "rubbish", so I doubt "crap" is acceptable.

The latter two are almost certainly not allowed - soap characters cant even say "ASS-hole"!
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Old 10-02-2005, 12:48
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To be honest, I don't even notice that bad language is missing. I would say one of the characters who would have been most likely to swear, realistically, would've been Nick Cotton. I suppose we're so used to them not having it that we notice it more when it is there. I guess it's the same principle as characters going to the loo, or scratching their bum or picking their nose - just doesnt happen. And I can't say I've ever missed it, frankly
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Old 10-02-2005, 14:16
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Originally Posted by Dippit
Its the same with Neighbours and all the things Stingray says...calling people caketaker, using the word spiggin etc etc...the producers of Neighbours did that because they want to give the impression that Stingray is a cusser, but can't use the actual cusswords!

Its the same with Tommy I imagine.
I never knew that was supposed to be cussing!
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Old 10-02-2005, 14:34
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Although I made a fuss about Coronation St using bastard, I've now changed my mind. Soaps should reflect society and portray as much realism as possible to the specific time period, so that if people come back to look at them in say 2300 (lol) then they'll see how society was and becoming more accepting to the language on TV. Almost as a historical document!

EastEnders use to use 'piss' & 'pissing' all the time I believe, and why should they have, what actually wrong with these words?
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Old 10-02-2005, 14:42
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Over on another thread its been mentioned that Irish soap Fair City is much more open to using swearing despite airing pre watershed. As I posted on the other thread, I remember one female character threatening a male character with "Get away from me or I'll kick your balls off".
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Old 10-02-2005, 14:49
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Eastenders used to use Bastard quite a bit when it started. Den said it, Nick said it and Ali said it from what I remember.

Now you hardly hear them say 'bloody'.

I remember when Den first came back and he was in the club and the police man walked in and Den said "What can we do for you Cont-stable" but the way he said it was shocking. I was playing computer at time and turned to screen cos I though Den had said the "c" word.

I remember on the Neighbours 2000 Episode - Doug Willis said "Bloody" and there was quite a reaction to that.
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Old 10-02-2005, 14:51
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Originally Posted by LiverpoolFCGirl
I never knew that was supposed to be cussing!

Caketaker is not supposed to be cussing, it's a slang way of saying 'to take the biscuit'.
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Old 10-02-2005, 14:53
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[quote=Jamesessex69]
I remember when Den first came back and he was in the club and the police man walked in and Den said "What can we do for you Cont-stable" but the way he said it was shocking. I was playing computer at time and turned to screen cos I though Den had said the "c" word.

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I was thinking about this yesterday for some reason. I don't know how he got away with that, I was appalled. I really really hate that word. However, IMO, it just shows the contempt that Grantham had for the programme and the viewers that he could be so vile.
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Old 10-02-2005, 14:55
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They could always do what the writers of Father Ted did, just change the vowel in f*ck - that meant they could say it as many times as they liked and it somehow sounded quite sweet and harmless
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Old 10-02-2005, 14:57
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Old 10-02-2005, 14:59
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Originally Posted by Lippincote
They could always do what the writers of Father Ted did, just change the vowel in f*ck - that meant they could say it as many times as they liked and it somehow sounded quite sweet and harmless
I always say 'Fricking Hell' now! Which is more acceptable
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Old 10-02-2005, 15:24
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I've heard the word "friggin'" used often in Bad Girls - I really dont see what the problem would be for soaps to use a word like that.

But phrases like "flippin' 'eck" and "my goodness" really grate on me in soaps! Its fair enough for older characters to use such phrases, but you'd really expect younger characters to be a bit more realistic.

I get really annoyed when parents kick off at things which appear in Corrie or EE - at the end of the day, young children shouldnt be watching soaps like Corrie or EE anyway - they often dont set good examples to children and are often violent. However, by the time most kids are at the age to understand soaps, they've heard all these swearwords in the playground anyway.

So I say we start a petition - not for excessive swearing in soaps - just a little bit more realism in character's reactions to events!
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:07
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My Stepdad used to say "blummin' eck" or "Blimmin' nuisance" a lot because he got told off for swearing in front of me and my sister! I think he made up some others too (to try and get past my Mum!).

I don't really notice the lack of swearing in soaps to be honest.

Does anyone remember when they used to dub films on TV to change the swearing for something more acceptable? I remember "Coming to America" being on TV years ago and it was so obviously dubbed it was hilarious!
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:11
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Originally Posted by Lippincote
They could always do what the writers of Father Ted did, just change the vowel in f*ck - that meant they could say it as many times as they liked and it somehow sounded quite sweet and harmless
I don't think "feck" originated in Father Ted although they do use it a lot. The Irish have used it that way for as long as I can remember. It seems to make it more acceptable -
"ah will ya ever **** off" always makes me laugh
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