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As Todays Disability Day-Is It High Time For WHEELCHAIR DANCING ON STRICTLY?
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Janet43
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by IvanIV:
“No, I won't, I have eyesight problems, too. I have more problems with all bold all capital text. Why it is okay to be inconsiderate to me?”

Exactly. Why should those who prefer bold get precedent over those who don't. We should all be treated equally, but obviously some are more equal than others. Perhaps the mods will make a ruling to settle it.
TerryM22
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“Exactly. Why should those who prefer bold get precedent over those who don't. We should all be treated equally, but obviously some are more equal than others. Perhaps the mods will make a ruling to settle it.”

The Overwhelming Majority of Genuine Concerns Raised Have been Regarding The Very Bright Nature Of The New Sight Layout Which Is Alleviated For The Vast Majority Of Genuine concerns By A Darker Contrast Type Face, Which Makes Perfect Sense.


What Is Your Opinion About Wheelchair Dancing On Strictly Janet ?
IvanIV
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“ I am Trying To Understand The Problems That You Are Experiencing, But You Have not Explained Exactly What They Are Unfortunately, Just That You Have Them. ”

After a while of looking at complete bold text it starts blending together. There are accessibility options one can use to improve readability, but bold stays bold.
Janet43
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by SliverOfDiamond:
“What, both of them?

Out of how many people complaining that they are getting headaches from squinting at the tiny grey text?

You don't like looking at my posts, you have the ability to ignore me, use it. There are a couple of forum members I no longer see posts from, so I know it works, and you and Ivan are about to join them.

I find it incredibly ironic that we are having this discussion on a thread about dancing with disability.
”

So the only way you're prepared to make things better for you is to inconvenience others? You're not prepared to try changing colours, enlarging text or changing brightness and contrast to make things better? I can only see you and Terry posting in bold, which you don't see during composition, only when you've posted.

I have no problem with anyone putting me on ignore.
Janet43
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“The Overwhelming Majority of Genuine Concerns Raised Have been Regarding The Very Bright Nature Of The New Sight Layout Which Is Alleviated For The Vast Majority Of Genuine concerns By A Darker Contrast Type Face, Which Makes Perfect Sense.


What Is Your Opinion About Wheelchair Dancing On Strictly Janet ?”

As someone who occasionally uses a wheelchair, I didn't think much of the attempt made a while ago, with an able-bodied dancer whirling a wheelchair and its occupant around. It wasn't dancing for the wheelchair user.

Two people in wheelchairs might work if they are permanent wheelchair users because they know how to manoeuvre them, but I really don't know.
IvanIV
04-12-2013
Why not instead of a usual group dance on the main show or the result show. Why not as a Christmas special or in CIN programme.
TerryM22
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“As someone who occasionally uses a wheelchair, I didn't think much of the attempt made a while ago, with an able-bodied dancer whirling a wheelchair and its occupant around. It wasn't dancing for the wheelchair user.

Two people in wheelchairs might work if they are permanent wheelchair users because they know how to manoeuvre them, but I really don't know.”


Although There Would not be Time On One Strictly Show, Personally I Would Like To See Both Variations Catered For Janet.

But Then We Come To the Thorny Question Of Which New Dancing format to Try First On Strictly Come Dancing,

Wheelchair Dancing Or Same Sex Couples Dancing, Which Would You Prefer To See On Strictly Come Dancing First Janet ?
IvanIV
04-12-2013
I'd like to see Craig and Bruno doing an Argentine tango, Craig in a drag, of course.
memmh
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“The Overwhelming Majority of Genuine Concerns Raised Have been Regarding The Very Bright Nature Of The New Sight Layout Which Is Alleviated For The Vast Majority Of Genuine concerns By A Darker Contrast Type Face, Which Makes Perfect Sense.”

Terry, I know that you're trying to help FMs by using bold all the time, but it's actually harder on the eyes. In fact, all bold text is quite painful to read, almost like an assault on the eyes. Your thoughtfulness is appreciated but please can you stop using all bold text? Please?

While perhaps the new layout was hard to read at first, it's actually been improved on and that, coupled with the fact that we are (well, I am and I imagine others are, too) beginning to get used to it more means the all bold text really isn't necessary.
TerryM22
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by IvanIV:
“I'd like to see Craig and Bruno doing an Argentine tango, Craig in a drag, of course.”



That Would Be A Delight To Behold, The Audience Would Love To See Craig And Bruno Dancing Together, Perhaps On The Christmas Show, But This Raises More Questions Than It Answers, Who Would Lead Though ?
Sho Nuff
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by Servalan:
“I suspect the reason it was dropped may be more to do with the problem finding contestants.

I know one of the people who did it and am reliably told that the biggest problems came from BBC3 executives who were obsessed with finding young contestants, as otherwise it 'wouldn't feel like' a show made for their channel. The contestant who was outside the target age range had a real battle to be accepted by the producers.

An extraordinary case, then, of ageism - and incredible short-sightedness by the BBC, as this could surely have been a show that could have transferred to BBC One if it had been given higher production values (it looked like it was filmed in a warehouse decorated with drapes).”

So really, as per usual, the BBC were mainly looking for attractive young things. The disability aspect was second place. Ridiculous
Twenty10
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by memmh:
“Terry, I know that you're trying to help FMs by using bold all the time, but it's actually harder on the eyes. In fact, all bold text is quite painful to read, almost like an assault on the eyes. Your thoughtfulness is appreciated but please can you stop using all bold text? Please?

While perhaps the new layout was hard to read at first, it's actually been improved on and that, coupled with the fact that we are (well, I am and I imagine others are, too) beginning to get used to it more means the all bold text really isn't necessary.”



No chance. The more anyone asks, the more he'll keep writing in bold and using CAPITALS at the start of every word.

All because two people think it's 'better' and then throw in the disability comment so you can't argue against it.

Best just to ignore. Or is there a 'report' button on this nice shiny new site?
TerryM22
06-12-2013
Rumours That Terry Is Always There With A Thread Before The News Breaks Are Unfounded As Is The friends In High Places Rumour, It Is All Just A Happy Coincidence.

" Strictly for heroes

Paralympians take to BBC dancefloor "


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-athletes.html
" Strictly Come Dancing to launch one-off special featuring paralympic heroes "



" Bosses are keen to try new things for Sport Relief and with Strictly still at the top of its game, it seemed obvious to give disabled stars the chance to compete on the dancefloor,’ a source told The Sun.

It’s not the first time the BBC have hosted a show for disabled dancers.

Back in 2010, they broadcast Dancing On Wheels. "



http://metro.co.uk/2013/12/05/strict...eroes-4216447/
Janet43
06-12-2013
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“Rumours That Terry Is Always There With A Thread Before The News Breaks Are Unfounded As Is The friends In High Places Rumour, It Is All Just A Happy Coincidence.

" Strictly for heroes

Paralympians take to BBC dancefloor "


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-athletes.html
" Strictly Come Dancing to launch one-off special featuring paralympic heroes "



" Bosses are keen to try new things for Sport Relief and with Strictly still at the top of its game, it seemed obvious to give disabled stars the chance to compete on the dancefloor,’ a source told The Sun.

It’s not the first time the BBC have hosted a show for disabled dancers.

Back in 2010, they broadcast Dancing On Wheels. "



http://metro.co.uk/2013/12/05/strict...eroes-4216447/”

Still don't think it will work. I didn't think it worked when they tried it before so there's no reason why is should this time. All they did last time was to twirl the wheelchairs round - hardly dancing. As I also said previously the only way it could work IMO is for both to be in wheelchairs. The wheelchair users know how to manoeuvre them and what they can and can't do safely.

And sorry Terry, but I'm putting you on ignore. Your bold posts are blending and very difficult to read. You say they're easier to read, but you don't see the bold while your composing. Unless you keep reading your own posts, your bold type doesn't benefit you. Others have already asked you to stop doing it because they're having trouble reading them as well. You're obviously not having difficulty reading non-bold posts because you're replying to them.
memmh
06-12-2013
Originally Posted by Janet43:
“And sorry Terry, but I'm putting you on ignore. Your bold posts are blending and very difficult to read. You say they're easier to read, but you don't see the bold while your composing. Unless you keep reading your own posts, your bold type doesn't benefit you. Others have already asked you to stop doing it because they're having trouble reading them as well. You're obviously not having difficulty reading non-bold posts because you're replying to them.”

I have to agree with that, I'm afraid. I didn't think I'd ever put Terry on ignore but his all-bold posts give me double-vision - and that's not an exaggeration, I mean it literally. Sorry, Terry, but for people who have genuine eye problems, you're just exacerbating the situation. If someone else could mention when Terry stops posting in all-bold, I'll happily unignore him then.
Tiggywink
06-12-2013
Originally Posted by indiana44:
“Please stop bolding / trying to bolden everything and using capital letters on all words.

Your thoughts deserve no more highlighting than anyone else's.”

I can imagine that the highlighting could be to make it more easily readable - rather than it being cocky. Many users on other threads have complained (or did at the advent of the new format) that it was hell to read because of the white background, and suggested trying bold type.
Servalan
06-12-2013
Originally Posted by Sho Nuff:
“So really, as per usual, the BBC were mainly looking for attractive young things. The disability aspect was second place. Ridiculous ”

I don't recall the guy who won being particularly attractive, I have to say ...

I think the problem was that it was commissioned and broadcast on BBC Three - which is supposedly aimed at a younger demographic. The executives there obviously obsessed about that and (stupidly) thought that a 16-34 audience would only want to watch people of their own age. Idiotic, or what?

Clearly nobody at the BBC had the courage to see the potential in playing this on BBC One or BBC2 - where it might have reached a wider audience and not have age-fixated executives trying to interfere ...
Monaogg
06-12-2013
Since they have improved the contrast, the Bold looks even worse than normal. All it does is spread letters out. It does not make them darker. Spread out now makes it even harder to read.

I too would like to see proper bold as an option. Limit thread title length and no unnecessary Shouting. The long thread titles look absolutely diabolical on a mobile. Ironically the android mobile changes are brilliant except for the ridiculous thread titles.

However, interesting idea with the paralympians version of SCD for Sport Relief.
TerryM22
06-12-2013
Originally Posted by Tiggywink:
“I can imagine that the highlighting could be to make it more easily readable - rather than it being cocky. Many users on other threads have complained (or did at the advent of the new format) that it was hell to read because of the white background, and suggested trying bold type.”

It Was A Very Inspiring Suggestion To Assist those Having Difficulties Reading Here As A Result Of the Glaring White and Faint Text, And One that Should be commended, I Am Not By Nature A Selfish Person And Therefore Don't Mind At AllTaking a Bit Of Extra Time and Trouble Posting to assist Others.

WheelChair Dancing Can't come Soon Enough For Me On Strictly Come Dancing, This Sort Of Thing Is A Bit To Slow To Arrive For my Liking.
neelia
06-12-2013
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“As A Result Of The Contrast Teething Issues Of The New Site Layout Another Poster Has Kindly Suggested That We All Bold Everything In Order To Assist Those With Sight Difficulties and Restrictions, I Thought That The Poster Was Very Considerate And Should Be Congratulated For Trying To Help Others, Do You Too?”

Yes but could you further assist by losing the capitalisation on every letter. It makes it harder to read. Each word stands alone like it is starting a new sentence or its someone's name.
Doghouse Riley
06-12-2013
I can't see anyone in a wheelchair being a contestant in Strictly, it's even daft to suggest it.
As Chris Brasher who was co-founder of the London Marathon, once said. "Wheels and legs don't mix." The way the inclusion of competitors in this race in wheelchairs is effected, doesn't affect those running.

Nothing wrong with any programme or sport dedicated to disabled people.


As for continued pathetic excuses for the use of bold text or capitals.....

Please tell me how hard is it to hold down "ctrl" and press "+" a few times?
StrictlyRed
06-12-2013
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“It Was A Very Inspiring Suggestion To Assist those Having Difficulties Reading Here As A Result Of the Glaring White and Faint Text, And One that Should be commended, I Am Not By Nature A Selfish Person And Therefore Don't Mind At AllTaking a Bit Of Extra Time and Trouble Posting to assist Others.
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Terry, you claim that you are trying to be helpful, but putting capital letters at the beginning of every single word helps nobody, and makes your posts even more difficult to read, I'm afraid.

Sorry to have un-bolded your post when quoting, but I didn't want to make things worse for anyone else reading this. It's a shame that I feel reluctant to come and read your threads anymore, because I often find them quite entertaining.

Originally Posted by memmh:
“I have to agree with that, I'm afraid. I didn't think I'd ever put Terry on ignore but his all-bold posts give me double-vision - and that's not an exaggeration, I mean it literally. Sorry, Terry, but for people who have genuine eye problems, you're just exacerbating the situation. If someone else could mention when Terry stops posting in all-bold, I'll happily unignore him then.”

Ditto.






Ooh, look smilies are back......

...and a new one

Wish we had a dog, too
jenda57
06-12-2013
Brain Fortuna was involved in a programme finding a pair to represent the UK. His mum is very into this in the USA andhe has a real feel for it too. He was very strict though
TerryM22
07-12-2013
Originally Posted by jenda57:
“Brain Fortuna was involved in a programme finding a pair to represent the UK. His mum is very into this in the USA andhe has a real feel for it too. He was very strict though ”

Do You Remember What The Programme Was Called Jenda, It Sounds Very Interesting ?
Grumpy_Alan
07-12-2013
Originally Posted by TerryM22:
“Do You Remember What The Programme Was Called Jenda, It Sounds Very Interesting ? ”


Terry, only a troll or a someone with a warped sense of humour would keep posting in capitalized bold font.


Hard to read, and frankly, after reading virtually any and all of your posts it is hardly worth the effort.


On the present thread, judging by your comments, you are confirming what many of us think, you are just a troll or WUM.


With the very greatest respect to the disabled, do you honestly think that watching some sort of 'wheelchair twirling' would make any significant ratings for prime-time TV?
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