Thankyou so much Chloe,finally a bit of sense...

As you say facts just get ignored by the detractors,they just refuse to discuss things that don't fit with their fictional narrow view.But then saying that,since they can read the comments and inwardly must know the truth of them as they watched the events on the show,surely they know that there is merit to the points we are making. I do find it quite odd.


I won't be wasting any more time as you are astute and entirely correct,their dislike is so blatant that sadly it stops a rational discussion taking place.

If you're on the naughty step I'm on the wicked mountain I daren't say a word.

You and I and all the other viewers have correctly observed the poor treatment of Amy. There is no rational debate to be had here because the repetition of facts are being dismissed and ignored entirely.

You were very polite and civil from what I can see,I myself cannot 'agree to disagree' because its not viewpoints being ignored, its facts. Things that actually happened and cannot be denied....! :s

Chloedancer was correct in her post,there is no point attempting to be rational with people adopting an irrational standpoint.Not only is it pointless but its demeaning to us. We take the time to put the facts across in a post that is civil and respectful only to be ignored entirely?

Forget it.

I'll join you on that mountain. I'll bring cakes and biscuits, you can shove the kettle on

No, people who can't take criticism or negative opinions immediately shout bullying. It is just pathetic, it really is.

I agree but look at all the attention a victim role gets her. I wonder how long she's used this to get her own way.

I think Amy deserves credit to be honest. Not because I like lying or anything like that. But because look at the people she has stayed over. She has played a very good game and deserves credit for that.

People seem to think Amy is thick as shit and that isn't the case. I'd like to see her supporters actually giving her credit for getting this far by using manipulative techniques and smoke and mirrors with regards to Alfonso and Lucy.

If she wanted to play games she should have gone on Big Brother? It's not a game show.

I think that's exactly what it is now.

Only because some of the campmates chose to make it a game show. I shan't be watching anymore.

I agree and that would give her credit for a talent rather than constantly seeing her as a helpless victim.She is FAR from that!

No I wont be either. This has been sickening and so far from the original idea. Dumbed down, childish nonsense is not for me.The challenge last night was one of the very few decent old style ones. Most of them have been pathetically tame. If this is what the younger generation want in ITV's opinion I'm glad I've experienced real entertainment in my lifetime.

I doubt too many people see her as a helpless victim. I think they are actually impressed by the way she has stood up to the gang of four that has harassed her and refused to kowtow to people who think they are better than her.

From the clip of Amy's Dad talking to Jo Swash I thought he was Auditioning for TOWIE,

Lets agree to disagree.

Ah thankyou,you and I shall be well fed and watered on this mountain!

Indeed he does. Amy is no victim. Seen this kind of un-subtle manipulation before on reality programs.

Last thing Amy is is a helpless victim

She stood up to Annabel when Annabel attempted to belittle her. She often stands up for herself but on some occasions there simply isn't much point. Alfonzo said as much to Amy the night Mo grabbed the dishcloth,you have to pick your battles.

And yes I'm impressed with Amy's resilience. When I was 21 I was quite a wet lettuce, I don't think I would have handled the situation so well.

Maybe that's because you aren't manipulative and a liar like Amy is?

Don't be so sure

I haven't seen any evidence that Amy is 'manipulative'.What makes you think she is?

I have seen her lie about contraband,thats it.

I'm not going through it all again, it's my opinion that she is manipulative and a liar from what I have seen of her.

Thats fair enough.

And from what I have seen she isn't

The other source is the comedy newspaper known as The Daily Star lol.

Here is actual quotes from him and not The Daily joke lol.


In an emotional plea – backed by last year’s contestant Helen Flanagan – her dad said: “Being a good-looking girl, Amy has taken a lot of stick from people.

“She has been brought up with a *disabled brother, so she knows what it’s like to be ridiculed. I’d like to see them all do something together about bullying.”

Amy’s sister Erin also fumed on Twitter: “Lucy has really p***** me off!!! LEAVE.”


http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/i...#ixzz2mcosjD9Q