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Tell it like it is Matthew
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Rhumbatugger
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by polli:
“Rylan is bitter because amy won the show and beat him ,so personally anything HE has to say about that goes over my head as sour grapes.
Also his behaviour regarding getting into a relationship with a BB contestant already in a long term relationship makes him debatable in his ethics and hardly in a position to judge others bitchily.”

I'm not going to dismiss it on the usual 'jellus' grounds.

Rylan has been popular with his various competitors in the shows he's been in.

That doesn't seem to be true for Amy.
Lucylocket88
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by polli:
“Rylan is bitter because amy won the show and beat him ,so personally anything HE has to say about that goes over my head as sour grapes.
Also his behaviour regarding getting into a relationship with a BB contestant already in a long term relationship makes him debatable in his ethics and hardly in a position to judge others bitchily.”

He didn't say a bad word about the people who got ahead of him on X Factor last year.
ChipPaper
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“He was far from the only person who had negative opinions on Amy either.”

No you're right. The man who got beat by Amy in the Katie Price show wasn't the only one with negative opinions. The people who got beat by her on IAC have them too. And the woman who openly admits feeling insecure about her looks, and has vilified Amy for her own insecurities, has negative opinions. Meanwhile David, Rebecca and Joey, who haven't been beaten nor outperformed by someone they originally deemed inferior, like her.

Hmmmm.
Rhumbatugger
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by ChipPaper:
“No you're right. The man who got beat by Amy in the Katie Price show wasn't the only one with negative opinions. The people who got beat by her on IAC have them too. And the woman who openly admits feeling insecure about her looks, and has vilified Amy for her own insecurities, has negative opinions. Meanwhile David, Rebecca and Joey, who haven't been beaten nor outperformed by someone they originally deemed inferior, like her.

Hmmmm.”

Edit - can't be bothered.
anne_666
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Sorry but how do you know what Alfonso said to Amy . Remember they are together 24/7 and I bet all of them say a lot more then the tiny snippets we get shown.”

If you watch that back you will realise that Alfonso said nothing of the kind. She was actually accusing three other campmates of telling her the day before about Lucy leading a hate campaign. She allowed Lucy to go away without clarifying properly that it wasn't Alf and also shut her up. Lucy has to bring all of this out as I have no doubt that three other campmates did NOT say anything of the kind.Rebecca was there at the time thank goodness. It will all come out but hopefully in the show.
priscilla
04-12-2013
I agree that can choose what or what not to show us but they can't edit words into people's mouths.
They were imo bitchy towards Amy (Mo/Annabelle comments were the worst) but then Amy lying about Al was very disappointing. Editing can't work both ways, you can't say oh but maybe Al said it but they've edited it out but then use it defend or use against Lucy/Matt and co. I find them all at fault, bitchiness and lying I hate it.
Betty Britain
04-12-2013
Wow now Rylans a bitter no morals so n so.. You really couldn't make it up ... How dare anyone question amy
polli
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by Betty Britain:
“But you CAN edit them to make something look worse than it actually is”

They can only do that if something nasty occurred/was said .They didn't use a ventriloquist when they showed the surgically enhanced ex beauty pageant judge Lucy Pargeter trying to corner amy with her *meat market* comment or when she said in front of the whole camp (including miss innocent Rebecca)that amy wasn't missed while doing the overnight task etc etc .Endless examples that stand alone as witness to how sneering and nasty Lucy has been, without any need to enhance her nastiness for extra effect.
ChipPaper
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“EVERYONE is JELLUS.”

Would you care to point out where I used the word jealous?

ETA - Oh, just seen that you realised you were fighting a losing battle and ran away. Never mind.
Betty Britain
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by ChipPaper:
“No you're right. The man who got beat by Amy in the Katie Price show wasn't the only one with negative opinions. The people who got beat by her on IAC have them too. And the woman who openly admits feeling insecure about her looks, and has vilified Amy for her own insecurities, has negative opinions. Meanwhile David, Rebecca and Joey, who haven't been beaten nor outperformed by someone they originally deemed inferior, like her.

Hmmmm.”

Everyone who was on the Katie price show DIDN'T like her ...not just Rylan... Why do you think everyone is in the wrong and she isnt?
anne_666
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by ChipPaper:
“No you're right. The man who got beat by Amy in the Katie Price show wasn't the only one with negative opinions. The people who got beat by her on IAC have them too. And the woman who openly admits feeling insecure about her looks, and has vilified Amy for her own insecurities, has negative opinions. Meanwhile David, Rebecca and Joey, who haven't been beaten nor outperformed by someone they originally deemed inferior, like her.

Hmmmm.”

Totally disagree but hey ho. Real facts are real facts, supposition isn't.
Rhumbatugger
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by Betty Britain:
“Wow now Rylans a bitter no morals bastard ... You really couldn't make it up ... How dare anyone question amy”

Well, they're just jealous and bitter and twisted and probably leathery if they do.
anne_666
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Well, they're just jealous and bitter and twisted and probably leathery if they do.”

And Amy fell down from heaven but will become untouchable as far as any career is concerned if she doesn't stop this.
ChipPaper
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by Betty Britain:
“Why do you think everyone is in the wrong and she isnt?”

Why do you think she's in the wrong and no one else is?
Rhumbatugger
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by ChipPaper:
“Would you care to point out where I used the word jealous?

ETA - Oh, just seen that you realised you were fighting a losing battle and ran away. Never mind.”

Okay, so everyone she Beat in various shows doesn't like her.

Why is that then?

Why would they dislike her BECAUSE she beat them?
ChipPaper
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“Totally disagree but hey ho. Real facts are real facts, supposition isn't.”

Umm, there is no supposition there, all fact. Rylan got beat by Amy. He also doesn't like her. Matthew got beat by Amy. He doesn't like her either. David, Joey and Rebecca have not been beaten by Amy. They have no problem with her. These are facts.
anne_666
04-12-2013
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anne_666
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by ChipPaper:
“Umm, there is no supposition there, all fact. Rylan got beat by Amy. He also doesn't like her. Matthew got beat by Amy. He doesn't like her either. David, Joey and Rebecca have not been beaten by Amy. They have no problem with her. These are facts.”

Entirely disagree.They disliked her long before they were beaten by her and Lucy is still in there. So what's your argument really about?
sheila blige
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by Betty Britain:
“Wow now Rylans a bitter no morals bastard ... You really couldn't make it up ... How dare anyone question amy”

How dare you cast aspersions on the Sacred Amy Betty! I hope you bowed your head and touched your forelock when mentioning her name!:devil:
Paace
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by Betty Britain:
“Wow now Rylans a bitter no morals bastard ... You really couldn't make it up ... How dare anyone question amy”

Do you really believe that the conversation Amy had with David, Vincent, Alfonso only lasted for the brief min or two it was shown ?

Wasn't it those 3 that decided to inform Amy and stir things first of all.

As far as we know Amy was oblivious to this bitching behind her back until the 3 guys informed her.
sheila blige
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by locohero:
“I could tear your post apart but I can't be bothered and it would be wasted on you.”

This is so true! They're really not worth the effort. Just ignore them - they'll find an Amy For President thread to post in soon.
Betty Britain
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Do you really believe that the conversation Amy had with David, Vincent, Alfonso only lasted for the brief min or two it was shown ?

Wasn't it those 3 that decided to inform Amy and stir things first of all.

As far as we know Amy was oblivious to this bitching behind her back until the 3 guys informed her.”

What conversation did Amy have with them.. She was not there when they talked and if you listen to it again... They all said AMY had told them she felt she was being picked on
anne_666
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by sheila blige:
“How dare you cast aspersions on the Sacred Amy Betty! I hope you bowed your head and touched your forelock when mentioning her name!:devil:”

Can I go to confession to absolve myself even though I'm not religious.
ChipPaper
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“Entirely disagree.”

I don't see how you can to be honest. Fact is fact.

Did Amy finish higher than Rylan in the Katie Price show? Yes.
Does Rylan like Amy? No

Did Amy go further in IAC than Annabel, Laila and Matthew? Yes.
Do they like her? No

Did Amy place higher in IAC than Joey, Rebecca and David? No
Do they like her? Yes
Betty Britain
04-12-2013
Originally Posted by ChipPaper:
“I don't see how you can to be honest. Fact is fact.

Did Amy finish higher than Rylan in the Katie Price show? Yes.
Does Rylan like Amy? No

Did Amy go further in IAC than Annabel, Laila and Matthew? Yes.
Do they like her? No

Did Amy place higher in IAC than Joey, Rebecca and David? No
Do they like her? Yes”

============== here is a straw ... Would you like me to help you clutch it
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