Re read my post I edited it to show your argument up as false after you quoted it.

So why do they hate her when she wins then? What emotion, what feeling do they have when that happens?

Is it an 'automatic' HATE her if she beats me sort of a thing? Even if they didn't hate her before?

So, will Joey and Rebecca and David all hate her when she wins?

I'm not sure what you're getting at. I presented some facts, someone disagreed, I merely highlighted how factual these facts are (as facts tend to be), showing how they can't be disagreed with....because they're facts.

I'm surprised grown adults (you are all grown adults, right? Sometimes it's hard to tell) are struggling with the difference between fact and opinion.

Can you not see how empty and ridiculous that logic is? Do you know how many people beat Rylan on the X Factor and with whom he remains good friends? What about the people still on IACGMOOH who have yet to finish (ahead of or behind her) who don't like Amy?

Please don't apply for any vacancies in the Central Statistics Office.

I don't think Amy is going to win over Joey and Kian.

I hope not.

But if she wins, then Chip Paper thinks that THAT will be the reason that they hate her.

And it's not jealously or resentment either, although I can't figure out what it is if it's not that.

And of course, Amy's ACTUAL personality will have nothing to do with it.

Are we really still doing the selective use of when people are fooled by clever editing? Can we at least be consistent across the board and not only use it when it supports a particular
stance? Please.

Logic, what logic? I wasn't coming to any conclusion with what I posted. I posted facts (for those who seem to struggle with this, these are things that are undeniable truths), someone disagreed (which isn't something that can be done when presented with facts). I reposted these facts, breaking them down first so that people wouldn't be completely stumped (I'm slowly realising I must post as though I'm addressing 9 year olds). If you have read these facts and come to a conclusion so be it. I merely posted facts.

I'll post exactly as I like thanks.

I hope not. She doesnt deserve to get to the final.

Good post.

Rather rude and condescending don't you think?

If you feel brave enough, feel free to attempt to tear any of my posts apart (assuming it won't be wasted on me that is).

I have a feeling you won't be quite so 'plucky' at the end of it. Go nuts.

And yes people, this time I AM coming over all superior.

Wow, bashing Amy's not enough for you, you have to jump on me too. Keep it classy.

I highly doubt Kian or Joey will hate Amy if she beats them. Why? Because they are not of the opinion she is beneath them, and will not be embarrassed should they be pipped to the post by her.

No, it isn't.

Still smarting from earlier I see. Hmm.

It was a request, not a demand. There is a difference. It doesn't surprise me that this went over your head.

Amy didn't have any conversation with the three of them - she had a conversation with Vincent (who has since said tonight that he now "understands" the situation) on Friday's show.

Amy started her little martyr act on Wednesday's show with dry crying and whimpering. She then spoke to each of them individually about how she was being picked on and the three of them then discussed it.

Amy was not "oblivious" she was instigating it. Re-watch Wednesday - Friday of last week so that you can see it all in chronological order.

I've asked you what you meant, I can only guess if you don't clarify.

I'll try again - so - you think that ALL the people who dislike Amy on both the shows she's been on have thought she was 'beneath them'?

Are you sure all those would be models, many not as educated, or middle class or as pretty, actually thought she was 'beneath them'?

And if not - then WHAT would be their reason for disliking her?

Laughing actually.

But no, I think it's rather pompous and self important to tell others on the board how to post.

I tried to keep it simple and neutral. Try it yourself.

You forgot to mention patronising........

If Carlsberg did cheap cop outs...

Again, it's gone over your head. There is a difference between telling people and making a request. I have never and would never tell anyone how to post on here. You are wrong.

Shall I just copy the above ready and waiting to paste for when you inevitably reply and get it wrong again?

Delighted that this year the voters can see who are the trouble makers and are eliminating them one by one . Apart from little Vincent of course

Wow Amy was lazy did not need Matthew to tell us that!It is funny how people say this must have happened but was edited out to make a point one way or the other.I will wait for them all to get out and maybe we will get a few answers as I don't think it is fair to have a go at any of them with not much to go on.It is such a shame all this nasty stuff has been shown but as the forum has been full of it maybe the producers thought it would keep people watching the show?

Thanks, good point, yeah that too.

If you take a look at the incredibly unnecessary and rude post I was replying too (I see no one picked that poster up for how rude they were but me, which again is interesting) then I'm sure you will understand why I posted that.

Edit- fair play to you ChickenWings too.

And I refused your request nicely.

How about I ask you, really nicely, to stop being so insulting and patronising to people?

Just a little request?