He won't win because he was voted out

Matthew was a gent letting Amy sleep and though I'm filling in the blanks here left by the old edit I assume she asked if she could sleep or at least agreed to it in a way that maybe other less lazy camp mates wouldn't have.

Whatever, the fact that he let her do this and woke her up when the challenges came for her to repay him by saying she would NEVER choose alcohol in a task means that IMO Matthew is so far above Amy in morals and class that he can call her whatever he wants.

I really think that you should wake up and read what this thread is about. It's not too difficult.



Precisely. Thank goodness someone has taken time to read the op.


So you do understand what this thread is about.




They also mentioned joey. or didn't you hear that? But then again joey isn't an attractive young woman.



I never realised that snakes had morals.

Oh don't be such a baby. No one suggested that Joey should be put below Amy. Even those who adore her cannot possibly deny that it was taken as read that she would be bottom.

It doesnt matter if Amy is tha laziest or whatever else they all decide she is .Mathews mocking of her and his " Poor little Amy " take off of her was discusting last night on Now . He is an adult who should have given up that playground mentality long ago and acted his age

What has babies got to do with anything?

Anyway, like I said they said both joey and Amy. When joey was listing the things that he does in camp ,some of them were killing themselves with laughter. All I see, are a group of people who are prepared to accept some people's shortcomings but not others,even though it may be the same shortcoming.

That was so pathetic and embarrassing.

Admittedly I didn't watch Matthew last night so am only going by what's been said on this thread. However, while I can appreciate that he would be annoyed that he helped Amy with that task by letting her sleep and waking her (which was very good of him), I don't think it was reasonable of him to be that annoyed about the alcohol. Yes Amy "owed him" in a sense after the trial, but I don't think she was being overly selfish by saying she wouldn't choose alcohol as a prize. Or at least, she was no more selfish than those who said they would choose alcohol while knowing that she doesn't drink so wouldn't benefit from that prize. Of course, she may have had plenty of other opportunities to repay Matthew for helping her in the trial which she also didn't take.

It may well be that plenty of other things happened between the trial and that conversation which led to that annoying him more than it would under other circumstances and I hope that was the case because I don't think it's reasonable to start disliking someone just because of that one occasion.

I thought Vincent looked embarrassed to be sitting beside him and Laura looked uncomfortable . Silly schoolboy Swash tought it funny >

Re BIB. Actually, Matthew told Amy after a while, that he wasn't going to sleep so she should have a nap and he'd wake her. Amy didn't ask for him to do that, that was all Matthews idea. So on that particular point, he's talking rubbish.

At one point didn't Matthew almost quit the task saying it wasn't worth staying up all night just to win Steve his toothpicks?

Not surprising.





http://www.theguardian.com/media/200...sandpublishing

Matthew said it as he saw it, He was there, Vincent seemed to have changed his tune about Amy,

As has Alfonso so it would seem.

Yep,he actually told her to go to sleep as I recall.

The man is not just dishonest,he's treating viewers as if they are simpletons.Does he think we haven't actually seen the show?

Is there a link to this foolish behavior?
I would like to see it.

Did Matthew also write about David Souls performance as he saw it? And do you believe his and share his opinion on David's performance?

Regarding the first line in the above post I suggest the poster takes a few moments to consult the posting tips that are highlighted above the posting box.

The first is 'Please treat other users with respect'

The second is 'Please ensure your reply is constructive'

Dismissing a fellow poster with the sentence 'oh,don't be such a baby' is both rude and disrespectful.

If I remember good then Mathew did not want to do this trial. At beginning he said he was not bothered to stay up all night to do it and called his team to ask if they really wanted their luxury things. Maybe after this he think to himself that he may look selfish giving up so quickly and then he offer to stay awake because he did not see point in going to sleep. I think he has very bad memory.

I think he has a very selective memory

But he didn't see it....that is made clear in that (old) article. We know that Matthew was indeed in the jungle, unless he sent a body double. I honestly don't think he will waste much breath on Amy, she's just not interesting enough. Let's hope we get to hear more about the ones that were interesting.

And does David have an agenda? He also stated that Amy was the laziest - and he's a true gent and lovely and nice to Amy (in fact, nice to everyone).

And no, we haven't seen all the campmates 24/7 since they arrived. So equally, all those yelling 'witch' etc at Lucy and lauding Amy to the skies could be wrong. Just a thought.


*Tumbleweed*


And David.


It's quite irritating to see the same people banging on constantly about how perfect Amy is and how everyone else (from Lucy who it seems is the main perpetrator, even though we have seen less than 16 hours out of over 300 that they have spent in there - and of that only about 2 or 3 of the camp, because of bushtucker trials, dingo dollars etc and therefore no-one has any real idea about what has been happening except for the exaggeration and spin that ITV1 and 2 are putting on it -down to the latest to be voted off) is an evil person who shouldn't even breathe the same air as her.

You know what, it's the 'fans' (blinded by spin and possibly their own naievety) that are spoiling this for me, now. Not Amy; not Lucy, not even ITV (and I think Lucy should sue for character assasination when she comes out); but the people on here and those on 'Twitter'; who seem to laud Amy as some kind of perfect human being.

She is 20 years old, and a young 20 year old at that. She has a lot of maturing up to do (as 20 year olds do usually) and she has to realise the world does not revolve around her (as teenagers and some 20 year olds seem to do, I certainly did when I was her age). She is not an angel. She is as flawed as everyone else. She was selfish and unreasonable in not giving up her contraband (and the fact that she then tried to deflect blame onto others for 'grassing' on her was very telling; it meant that she doesn't accept responsibility for her actions easily. But then, she's 20 years old).

No-one in there is an angel. No-one. But equally, neither are they all rotten human beings. They're just like us.

But the way everyone is carrying on, you'd think she was something special and the rest are the devil incarnate. It's silly and over the top and it's JUST A TV PROGRAMME. One that none of you will even remember in a few months time. Is it really worth all this grief? Really?

What a shame.

Matthew called her lazy for what she does in camp.
He called her selfish because in the task he told her he would wake her every time to complete her part but said 2 days later she would not get booze if it was on offer.
When asked if he thought Amy was playing a game with Lucy and Al he said probably the bloke on the panel said she isn't that clever Vincent said she is that clever.

A lot of fuss over nothing I quite agree. But given this is a discussion forum the show is going to be discussed. With so many differing opinions on here, things are bound to get a tad 'heated.' It's only to be expected imo.

Then when they showed a clip of Vincent comforting Amy and saying he had her back the juvenile Mathew mocked Amy in a horrible schoolboy way and it was disgraceful behaviour from a grown man ,

I saw it but then he was appearing on an after show that does nothing but mock all the camp mates so I wasn't really shocked by it.

Mocking still shocks me , especially from so called adults