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Old 10-02-2005, 17:04
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I was reading an article about the 20th anniversary of EE, and with my work patterns some weeks I have been watching EE early on UK Gold and I found myself really wanting to watch it again! I don't want to miss all the Den drama so if anyone can fill me in on a few things so I know what's going on I'd be grateful. Actually I think knowing Den will be gone is also making me want to watch it again His return really did end me watching it.

OK so I haven't watched it properly since about December 2003. I think I have seen about 7 episodes since. Obviously I don't need to know everything that's happened since then but I need to know what's happening now so that if I watched it tonight I'd know what was going on.

So what actually was the story with Paul and Andy and Sam losing the businesses? And I know Andy is on his way out on the same night as Den - so why is he being bumped off? And the new Slater girl - who's daughter is she exactly? And I saw the advert with Chrissie talking about Den - so does she want to kill Den? Is it just the Zoe thing? And I read Billy went to see Mo's rapist in jail - is there still something more to come from that?

That's all I need to know I think, so that if I watch it tonight I will have an idea of what's going on. I don't need a big explanation, just a little summary. And tell me anything else you want to. Thanks
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:10
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Originally Posted by Pop Princess
So what actually was the story with Paul and Andy and Sam losing the businesses? And I know Andy is on his way out on the same night as Den - so why is he being bumped off? And the new Slater girl - who's daughter is she exactly? And I saw the advert with Chrissie talking about Den - so does she want to kill Den? Is it just the Zoe thing? And I read Billy went to see Mo's rapist in jail - is there still something more to come from that?

That's all I need to know I think, so that if I watch it tonight I will have an idea of what's going on. I don't need a bit explanation, just a little summary. And tell me anything else you want to. Thanks

Will will do a much better job of explanations than me, but a few quick points:

Why is Andy being bumped off? Because he's a cr*p character We don't yet know in storyline terms why though, that will become apparent over the next week.

Billy - Mo - only point of rapist visit seems to have been to split them up & confirm Billy's paranoia.

Chrissy doesn't intend to kill Den, she just wants to humiliate him. From the spoilers, the death is an accident, or at least not planned. Yes it is the Zoe thing, plus the fact he had an affair with Kate and after that promised to be forever faithful.
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:11
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Mark went away and died, got buried, Martin and Sonia got married - he went home and slept in someone elses bed they had a mad stalker who stabbed Martin whilst trying to stab Sonia.

Marcus told Sam that Phil was in trouble, needed to get out of the country but needed lots of dosh and that Sam had to sell the queen vic and the Arches etc to fund it. Sam sold up - selling the vic to Den for a knockdown price and then Marcus ran off with the money - it was all a setup. So Andy dumped her.
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:16
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Hiya - you'll probably get loads of diffeerent 'installments' but here's one...

Sam and Andy were married - people tried to tell her he was a scumbag but she wouldn't listen. Then Marcus (family lawyer) told her Phil was in trouble and she needed to get him some cash fast as he had some dodgy people after him and that his life was in danger. He made her sell the house (which she sold to Andy) and all Phil's businesses - including the Vic to Den for a knock down price. the only thing she was left with was the car lot.

Then she goes to take the money to phil at a station, he's not there she openes the case full of money and it's full of paper - Marcus had 'done a runner' with it!

We then see Marcus going to the airport and lo and behold he meets Den. Turns out the entire thing was a scam by Den. He'd found out Marcus had been skimming money from his clients (or something to that effect - not much detail was given) but basically he blackmailed Marcus into doing all this so that he could buy the Vic fair and square - but cheap. Chrissie was fully aware and had even helped to a certain extent - details uknown. He hands over his blackmailing docs and Marcus goes off for some fun and sun.

Sam was heartbroken - but knows nothing of the Den connection. She goes home to Andy and he tells her he was only with her for the money and slings her out.
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:18
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The Den plot stems from Shannis which I don't want to dwell on so I'll let someone else give you that installment.
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:20
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Originally Posted by Cascadia8
We then see Marcus going to the airport and lo and behold he meets Den. Turns out the entire thing was a scam by Den. He'd found out Marcus had been skimming money from his clients (or something to that effect - not much detail was given) but basically he blackmailed Marcus into doing all this so that he could buy the Vic fair and square - but cheap. Chrissie was fully aware and had even helped to a certain extent - details uknown. He hands over his blackmailing docs and Marcus goes off for some fun and sun.
Ahh - I missed that. It's all making sense now!
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:21
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Originally Posted by Pop Princess
I was reading an article about the 20th anniversary of EE, and with my work patterns some weeks I have been watching EE early on UK Gold and I found myself really wanting to watch it again! I don't want to miss all the Den drama so if anyone can fill me in on a few things so I know what's going on I'd be grateful. Actually I think knowing Den will be gone is also making me want to watch it again His return really did end me watching it.

OK so I haven't watched it properly since about December 2003. I think I have seen about 7 episodes since. Obviously I don't need to know everything that's happened since then but I need to know what's happening now so that if I watched it tonight I'd know what was going on.

So what actually was the story with Paul and Andy and Sam losing the businesses? And I know Andy is on his way out on the same night as Den - so why is he being bumped off? And the new Slater girl - who's daughter is she exactly? And I saw the advert with Chrissie talking about Den - so does she want to kill Den? Is it just the Zoe thing? And I read Billy went to see Mo's rapist in jail - is there still something more to come from that?

That's all I need to know I think, so that if I watch it tonight I will have an idea of what's going on. I don't need a bit explanation, just a little summary. And tell me anything else you want to. Thanks
Ok - I wonder how long you will last watching it?

Paul and Andy, ok Paul was working for Andy involved in drugs and the like! When Den returned again from Spain, Sharon said everything was under control at Angie's Den but she had actually employed Paul who was selling drugs around the place for Andy. Den suspected this and caught him with an addict or something! So sacked him, and later on, informed the police about Andy Hunter. It wasn't until later on that the police started showing up watching the bookies/ house, meanwhile Sam thought the car outside was because Phil was in trouble (Marcus told her this) so paniced and started selling off businesses. One day Paul came out of the bookies and the police followed him and searched him finding drugs. He was then advised to help them, so he did. And when there was a big "gangster" meet up/ exchange between Andy & some big nut - Paul told the police.

However, Andy saw a tramp sitting at the meet up so was suspicious and decided to go back to the bookies with his monkey man. The others meanwhile got arrested! So a big league man thought it was Andy and then wanted the name of who grassed them up.

Andy knew it was Paul and told him, Paul tried to flee the square but Patrick was concerned and wouldn't hand over his car keys as he was drunk. So the gangster came and took Paul away in a taxi.

During this episode, Sam had sold off the arches, the Vic and the house to Andy, unknown that Marcus was scamming her as Den had documents which showed Marcus was involved in illegal activities - Chrissie was also in on the plan to scam Sam. Sam took the money to Marcus who then swapped the cases, she went to meet Phil at the train station but he didn't turn up. She went back to Marcus's place, opened the case found out it was full of blanks - then rang him. He said "Goodbye Samantha" and threw his phone out the car window.
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:22
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It was an excellent episode which aired on Thursday 23rd December 2004.
Cast included (main):

Samantha Hunter - Kimberley Medcalf
Andrew Hunter - Michael Higgs
Marcus Christie - Stephen Churchett
Dennis Watts - Leslie Grantham
Christine Watts - Tracy-Ann Oberman
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:28
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I can't bear to fill you in on Shannis either - but it is kind of essential to the plot so i'll do it but be brief.
Dennis loves Sharon
Sharon Loves Dennis
lots of back and forth because Den is Dad to them both - but they are not blood related as Sharon is adopted.
they get together then break up for the family.
dennis gets with Zoe
long drawn out episodes with sharon and dennis being jealous
finally after about a million years they decide to do a runner. anounce it at christmas.
den convinces zoe tolie and sya she's pregnant - knowing that sharon can't have kids and dennis feels very strongly about family.
sharon and vicki leave.
zoe then needs to get pregnant - dennis isn't sleeping with her
somehow they think the only solution is for her to get pregnant by den.
they sleept ogether 3 time (i think) with dennis walkingin ont hem the last time - lots of zoe being emotional throughout with 'I don't wanna' and stuff but Den always convinces her too.
Zoe comes clean
dennis leaves - bumps into chrissie and tells her everything
zoe then finds out she is actually pregnant
chrissie flies her solicitor mate amanda over to help her get revenge - she wont leave den as nothing is in her name so she's playing along until tonight...
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:30
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wow! so many spelling mistakes there - sorry - hope you get the gist. It was just so painful having to type up the crap storyline! (although I think it's sounds a lot better shortened like that, be grateful you missed it)
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:30
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It's quite a good plot apart from the boring lead up.
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:30
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Oh yeah and then Sam went crying to Andy, he chucked her out, took her ring, stabbed a knife through this cake while "I wish it could be Christmas everyday" was playing.
Sam was banging on the front door crying & screaming!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/eastenders/east...20041223.shtml
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:31
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Stacey Slater is the daughter of Charlies sister's son. everything else has been answered.
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:31
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Her mother is called Jean Slater and she didn't want her.
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:38
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er... the Moons. Alfie's two cousins who are brothers Jake and Danny moon have arrived. They showed up as they needed somewhere to hide or stealing a bag full of money from gangsterish people (again!) turns out the money is all fake and there was also drugs. Johnny Allen (Don Beech) turns up - big kingpin type man who used to live on the square years ago so knows all the oldies and Pat was his lady of the night (shudder). He convinces the boys to stay and lie low, sweetens up alfie and Andy (Andy took an immediate dislike and vice versa - plus Danny is now with Sam) Johnny has also bought a house and Angies Den but that's pretty much all you know about him. Oh and he's from he old school of gentleman gangsters - very community spirited and when he saw Patrick screaming about his son, "ME SON!" he 'made a call' and the body suddenly turned up.

Phew! think that's it. - oh apart from Jane but she won't really be anything to do with tonight - just Ian's new flame but really good and had a very interesting storyloine with her husband that you can catch up on another time.
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:39
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At the moment Stacey the Slater chav is persuading Lucy Beale to dislike Jane.
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:40
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Its still not at its best PP but it has been improving under KH. I'd expect what's left of this week and next week will be fantastic though, I just hope it continues!

Billy & Little Mo was such a bore!
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:41
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Dennis has now temporarily left, presumably he is now with Sharon.

Zoe is VERY unhappy that she is pregnant by Den. Den is trying to give her money to support his 'grandchild' and has set up a huge trust fund for it and is threatening to be part of it's life. Zoe doesn't want Den to have anything to do with her or the baby.

Chrissie seems to think that Den and Zoe are having a full-blown (sorry, no pun intended!) affair and called Zoe Den's whore.

Neither Den or Zoe knows that Chrissie Knows... yet!
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:43
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So it's all quite an exciting plotline but is dragging it's heels.
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:44
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Originally Posted by Huch'net
Ok - I wonder how long you will last watching it?
I'll stick by it this time

It was just watching the old EE's on UK Gold and seeing John Yorke is back and characters I actually liked like Sonia getting big storylines coming up just made want to see it again. Also I keep reading about what great characters Chrissie, Jane and Johnny are. I think I have seen about two scenes with Chrissie since she joined, and that's it, so I want back in on the ground floor before it starts improving as the Berridge era is eventually cleared.

Thanks to everyone who replied and gave me the details of what's been going on. I think I would have been pretty lost if I watched it tonight without reading all that so thanks.

And thanks Cascadia for the Shannis explanation. Despite not watching the show I knew all about Shannis. I think that story took a life of it's own!

A couple of last questions - How were Spencer and Lynne written out? I know the Moon brothers are there but why are they there - is it because they know Johnny? And where is Kat supposed to be?

EDIT - Thanks Cascadia for the Moons explanation!
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:46
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Kat left. I would presume she is staying with Belinda.

Lynne left after she lost baby Viv in the cardboard funfair.


Spencer went to stay with Maxwell so Jake and Danny didn't get him into trouble.


The Moon brothers have been told to stay in the square for their safety.
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:49
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Originally Posted by Huch'net
Its still not at its best PP but it has been improving under KH. I'd expect what's left of this week and next week will be fantastic though, I just hope it continues!

Billy & Little Mo was such a bore!
I am sure it is not as good as it was at the moment but next week does look good from what I read today and I think it will get better with John Yorke back on board, Peggy coming back (I like Peggy, even if not many others do!), Sonia's baby custody fight etc. And I always did like EE. I just got out of the habit of watching when it hit a bad patch and then just got used to not watching it, but it's dragging me back in!
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:51
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You'll have to watch the Den's demise episode PP - Looks well good!
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:52
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Kat and Alfie broke up because of reasons so stupid and convoluted i can't be bothered to explain them! She ended up being an alcoholic and sleeping with a guy she met in a bar. Then she left, taking Alfie's hideous kimono with her

She also told Zoe that she wished she had never had her (you know Zoe turned out to be Kat's daughter by their Uncle 'Arry, not her sister, right?) and that she hated her, to make her leaving easier on Zoe . But she recently sent Zoe a necklace for her birthday so i guess that's all forgotten now.
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Old 10-02-2005, 17:57
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Originally Posted by drakaina
Kat and Alfie broke up because of reasons so stupid and convoluted i can't be bothered to explain them! She ended up being an alcoholic and sleeping with a guy she met in a bar. Then she left, taking Alfie's hideous kimono with her

She also told Zoe that she wished she had never had her (you know Zoe turned out to be Kat's daughter by their Uncle 'Arry, not her sister, right?) and that she hated her, to make her leaving easier on Zoe . But she recently sent Zoe a necklace for her birthday so i guess that's all forgotten now.
I did actually see a couple of episodes round that time when Kat and Alfie had a double hander so I saw some of that.

I didn't realise Lynne lost a baby. Was it Garry's?

And Dot's cancer - what's happening there?
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