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So. Kevin. OMG indeed
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Smokeychan1
06-12-2013
Did you hear Kevin on ITT tonight? Said he hadn't danced the Argentine Tango before and Susanna was better than him.

Thanks to bendymixer for this link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3OZlpnRxBE

I'm going to have to watch ITT again as apparently I missed the bit where the panel were being personally offensive about Nat and Pat, but I could have sworn I heard Kevin correctly.

Actually sod that, I know I did. So it begs the question: WHY Kevin? Why lie when you were doing OK - more than OK - and evidence to the contrary is out there for anyone to see without even having to look for it? WHY? Are you really that desperate to win you let MF integrity fly out the window?

Proud to be British? You totally tainted Oicho's legendary KFMFG post. I will never be able to see it again with hearing the lie "I've never danced AT before".
trevvytrev21
06-12-2013
Originally Posted by Smokeychan1:
“Did you hear Kevin on ITT tonight? Said he hadn't danced the Argentine Tango before and Susanna was better than him.

Thanks to bendymixer for this link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3OZlpnRxBE

I'm going to have to watch ITT again as apparently I missed the bit where the panel were being personally offensive about Nat and Pat, but I could have sworn I heard Kevin correctly.

Actually sod that, I know I did. So it begs the question: WHY Kevin? Why lie when you were doing OK - more than OK - and evidence to the contrary is out there for anyone to see without even having to look for it? WHY? Are you really that desperate to win you let MF integrity fly out the window?

Proud to be British? You totally tainted Oicho's legendary KFMFG post. I will never be able to see it again with hearing the lie "I've never danced AT before".”

It didn't happen. Natalie fans just can't handle any criticism of their fave. Petty.

I hope Kevin says he's never danced AT on the main show, prior to scoring highly, and ultimately sending carp like Abbey and Ashley into the dance off.

Olé!
TheWireRules
06-12-2013
Maybe he meant professionally, and not down his local community centre.
Arcana
06-12-2013
The scandals just keep on coming at the BBC.
MACTOWIN
06-12-2013
Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“It didn't happen. Natalie fans just can't handle any criticism of their fave. Petty.

I hope Kevin says he's never danced AT on the main show, prior to scoring highly, and ultimately sending carp like Abbey and Ashley into the dance off.

Olé! ”

Stop baiting.
echad
06-12-2013
Originally Posted by TheWireRules:
“Maybe he meant professionally, and not down his local community centre.”

I thought he had done it for BTF?
fridgesoup
06-12-2013
Weeeeell, being only an armchair 'expert' on the Argentine Tango and not wishing any disrespect to Kev, I'd say, after watching that video, that what he said on ITT was the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth
bendymixer
06-12-2013
TSK You are bad Smokeychan1 I am SURE kevin meant professionally and that was not in local community centre was a dem for dads dance school -

Like I am certain Brendan had danced a Charleston before he danced one with Sophie and that he just meant on SCD
bendymixer
06-12-2013
Originally Posted by echad:
“I thought he had done it for BTF?”

No AT in BTF
Muggsy
06-12-2013
Originally Posted by fridgesoup:
“Weeeeell, being only an armchair 'expert' on the Argentine Tango and not wishing any disrespect to Kev, I'd say, after watching that video, that what he said on ITT was the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth ”

Exactly what I was going to say. There's no way that was an AT.
trevvytrev21
06-12-2013
I just can't take any more lies.
Smokeychan1
06-12-2013
Originally Posted by TheWireRules:
“Maybe he meant professionally, and not down his local community centre.”

Riiight, quite the British everyman, isn't he? (Where is a roll eyes smiley when you need one?).

I knew I was going to hear a lot of 'excuses' but I hold my hands up. I didn't count on missing the part where he said "I've never danced AT....outside of a demonstration performance held at a local community centre".

ETA: fridgesoups response I'd have bet my house on
Scarlett Berry
06-12-2013
Originally Posted by Smokeychan1:
“Did you hear Kevin on ITT tonight? Said he hadn't danced the Argentine Tango before and Susanna was better than him.

Thanks to bendymixer for this link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3OZlpnRxBE

I'm going to have to watch ITT again as apparently I missed the bit where the panel were being personally offensive about Nat and Pat, but I could have sworn I heard Kevin correctly.

Actually sod that, I know I did. So it begs the question: WHY Kevin? Why lie when you were doing OK - more than OK - and evidence to the contrary is out there for anyone to see without even having to look for it? WHY? Are you really that desperate to win you let MF integrity fly out the window?

Proud to be British? You totally tainted Oicho's legendary KFMFG post. I will never be able to see it again with hearing the lie "I've never danced AT before".”

They were not in the slighest bit offensive.
Smokeychan1
06-12-2013
Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“TSK You are bad Smokeychan1 I am SURE kevin meant professionally and that was not in local community centre was a dem for dads dance school -

Like I am certain Brendan had danced a Charleston before he danced one with Sophie and that he just meant on SCD”

No not bad bendy. I have spent 10 weeks repeating ad nauseum that I dislike the fact the production team saw fit to put a trained dancer in among the celeb line-up so I feel it is only fair I don't wallpaper over Kevin's attempted manipulation of the audience at home.

I can hear tomorrow night's show already; Kevin gearing himself up to take the blame for a badly danced AT to try and keep them out of the DO. If you have to plan an escape route, you've already lost.
trevvytrev21
06-12-2013
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“They were not in the slighest bit offensive.”

Didn't you hear them suggest that Abbey and Susanna were easier to cheer on, as they weren't excellent dancers to begin with?

I think it was absolutely disgusting. How dare they? Poor Natalie and her fans, they just can't catch a break.
Smokeychan1
06-12-2013
Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“Didn't you hear them suggest that Abbey and Susanna were easier to cheer on, as they weren't excellent dancers to begin with?

I think it was absolutely disgusting. How dare they? Poor Natalie and her fans, they just can't catch a break.”

But it is true for many of us trevvy, we want to see progression on a show about people learning to dance.

Nat's a nice girl, but she gave us all she had in week one! Nothing offensive about stating that.
Jennifer_F
06-12-2013
I've just watched the clip provided and although I'm no AT expert, this doesn't look like authentic AT to me. I'm sure I will be corrected !
This was a dem, and looks like basically a ballroom tango ( I'm recognising groups and flicks that we do in Ballroom Tango )but with a sort of AT twist with lifts etc to entertain the audience.
trevvytrev21
06-12-2013
Originally Posted by Smokeychan1:
“But it is true for many of us trevvy, we want to see progression on a show about people learning to dance.

Nat's a nice girl, but she gave us all she had in week one! Nothing offensive about stating that.”

Jan2555*GG*
06-12-2013
This is really a very mean spirited thread. Have you done it just to make Bendymixer feel bad❓

He/she is obviously connected in some way to a dance school & posted that video, which is a demonstration dance with some tango elements in it, but it's hardly Vincent & Flavia is it. So now based purely on this few seconds of film you want to call Kevin a liar. ‼️

Bendymixer don't feel bad you were sticking up for Kevin when he was getting some stick on another thread & now people are using it against you.

Kevin has obviously never danced the AT in competition & I don't regard that short clip of being any kind of proof that he is an expert an covering it up which is what the OP is implying.

He has probably never danced a competitive AT before & therefore I am very comfortable with him saying it's new to him. As someone said Brendan said the Charleston was new to him (which it was on Strictly) but that doesn't mean he has never danced any 'charleston' style steps before it's just a whole routine that's new.
Jennifer_F
06-12-2013
Originally Posted by Jan2555*GG*:
“This is really a very mean spirited thread. Have you done it just to make Bendymixer feel bad❓

He/she is obviously connected in some way to a dance school & posted that video, which is a demonstration dance with some tango elements in it, but it's hardly Vincent & Flavia is it. So now based purely on this few seconds of film you want to call Kevin a liar. ‼️

Bendymixer don't feel bad you were sticking up for Kevin when he was getting some stick on another thread & now people are using it against you.

Kevin has obviously never danced the AT in competition & I don't regard that short clip of being any kind of proof that he is an expert an covering it up which is what the OP is implying.

He has probably never danced a competitive AT before & therefore I am very comfortable with him saying it's new to him. As someone said Brendan said the Charleston was new to him (which it was on Strictly) but that doesn't mean he has never danced any 'charleston' style steps before it's just a whole routine that's new.”

Hear Hear JanI genuinely don't think that Kevin would be so naive and daft to lie about this.All a matter of interpretation I think.
Monaogg
06-12-2013
Originally Posted by Jennifer_F:
“Hear Hear JanI genuinely don't think that Kevin would be so naive and daft to lie about this.All a matter of interpretation I think.”



To be fair given that Zoe asked a leading question he was somewhat stuck with the answer he gave.

Just goes to show how things can be twisted out of all recognition.
Smokeychan1
06-12-2013
Originally Posted by Jan2555*GG*:
“This is really a very mean spirited thread. Have you done it just to make Bendymixer feel bad❓

He/she is obviously connected in some way to a dance school & posted that video, which is a demonstration dance with some tango elements in it, but it's hardly Vincent & Flavia is it. So now based purely on this few seconds of film you want to call Kevin a liar. ‼️

Bendymixer don't feel bad you were sticking up for Kevin when he was getting some stick on another thread & now people are using it against you.

Kevin has obviously never danced the AT in competition & I don't regard that short clip of being any kind of proof that he is an expert an covering it up which is what the OP is implying.

He has probably never danced a competitive AT before & therefore I am very comfortable with him saying it's new to him. As someone said Brendan said the Charleston was new to him (which it was on Strictly) but that doesn't mean he has never danced any 'charleston' style steps before it's just a whole routine that's new.”

Oh come on Jan, he outright lied on national telly and despite my age, which lends a natural cynicism, I am totally shocked and disappointed about that.

I made this thread to vent that disappointment, this is NOT about having a go at another forum member. Sure, there is a certain irony in the fact that had bendymixer not misread my post initially she may never have linked the video - it's a certainty that I would have never googled "KFMFG AT" in an effort to prove the veracity of Kevin's statement; why would I? - but the resulting thread is not a dig at her, it is completely a dig at Kevin. That's all.

And honestly, all this disingenuity. It was supposedly so new to him Susanna was the better at AT. Yeah you roll with that if you want. I know a lie when I hear one.

@Arcana. Sick of it too.
bendymixer
06-12-2013
Smokeychan I really wish I had not put link up it was not a performance AT it was a dem AT when I said earlier in week he had danced AT I never meant at Flavia and Vincent level - I am also sure that Kevin is talking from the viewpoint of comp or stage performance which that dem cant really be classed as in comp or on a stage can it
primer
06-12-2013
i'm struggling to work out what exactly it is i've missed, and how outraged i should be about it.

i find it hard to muster any strong feelings about kevin, TBH, but if you throw in a few mentions of susannah i expect a few boilers will explode.

(its much easier to muster strong feelings about the blooming smileys, like WTH is this supposed to be > and how could they tease us with a laod of new ones only to delete them again a day later...)
Jan2555*GG*
06-12-2013
So did you find any other video of him dancing a proper AT or not ?
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