You are right, but even by the American standard the choreography is too much out of hold, with no real frame either. It is very lyrical and Waltz like, but not quite right. I'm not a dancer but that's the impression I got from watching DWTS.

I'm on my phone at the moment so I'll watch them later, but I have seen some of Pasha's stuff and loved it. The only thing is I watched knowing it was for SYTYCD, but not for transference to SCD if you know what I mean. That sounds like double standards, but I know what I mean!

Well at least we know now who to blame it on.

I was trying not to blame Jason more than he deserved but I'll have to assign him a higher portion now.

I'm down to watching the show almost always from recordings so its getting near the not worth it range for me.

Must admit that assumed that Abby had chosen Delilah because of the link to Crouch and Stoke.

Russell last night said about the time that he and Flavia spent selecting music.

Wish they would just tell us.

I have also heard on several occasions that Flavia and Russell were given a pretty much free rein that they could do what they liked and that the ONLY prop that was foisted upon them was the canon. And the only music that they didn't specifically request was Venus.


There was a time that I was really sad that Vincent and Flavia and their innovative choreography and music choices are no longer involved in Strictly but now I'm actually quite glad.

I read somewhere that some pieces of music are very expensive to get the performing rights for. I know this wouldn't matter for things like Strauss or Carmen etc, but I could imagine that there are some perfect pieces of music that are frustratingly unobtainable.
Doesn't make daft choices such as Blur's "Song 2" for Fiona's Paso any more explicable though...

[quote=RosieR;70184550]Must admit that assumed that Abby had chosen Delilah because of the link to Crouch and Stoke.

Russell last night said about the time that he and Flavia spent selecting music.

Wish they would just tell us.[/QUOTE]





I'm sure the dancers are equally frustrated that they have to be diplomatic rather than be drawn into "Well it wasn't my choice of music" each week. And if they did, it would possibly end up sounding like sour grapes or a bad workman blaming his tools if the dance wasn't loved by audience or judges.

Or, conversely, the pro might choose something that went down badly and then can't hide behind "it wasn't my choice, guv".

These are the tasteless tone-deaf trio


http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...producers.html

The band has no say in the music chosen.

After having been assigned the celebrity and having the first practice with the celeb, the pros should determine the order of all the dances and select the music based on the character, age, size etc. of the celebrity and the celebs taste in music. There will be as much diversity as there is in the choice of celebs. And that will enhance the quality of the dancing from the outset if the celebs are comfortable and familiar with the music and style of initial dances.

The whole music and dance order thing for the whole show can be sorted in week one of training with plenty of time to select / reject songs based on rights and for the band to make arrangements for the months ahead. No need for all that false last minute rush.

The producers should leave the dance order and music selection to the professionals and stick to their main job of writing the judges', Bruce's and Zoe's scripts and giving the judges their scores.

Oh and I suspect that the pro/celeb pairing is decided at the time the celebs are contracted to do the show so plenty of time for the celeb to have a look at past Strictlys to see if any of their MP3 music is appropriate to the dances.

Originally Posted by shrinkingviolet:
“ The song choices/staging/costuming for certain couples this year have been ridiculous at best, and underhanded at worse..”

From mentions on Strictly2 it looks like tonight will feature some utterly awful mismatched music...

It really looks like sabotage to me,
and who designs susanna's dresses? An enemy I reckon.

It seems crazy to hire people because they are creative individuals and then disallow them to be either creative or individual. I would like to see what the pros are capable of, not what they are capable of whilst handicapped by the producers and behind-the-scenes creatives. I want to see the pros put their stamp on each dance.

They choose the music out of what's being made available for them to choose from. Jason and company can's just pick any song they want. Usage of the songs has to be paid for or given permission to use.

Jason is all that you say but he is not the one choreographing everyone's dances each week. He may be responsible for the PROs getting a certain song. It's up to the PRO to choreograph a watchable dance to the song. Jason may have one idea for the song and the PRO could have another. I imagine it's hard to bring this show into the 21st century with so many in the public complaining that it doesn't look like Fred and Ginger or Gene Kelly didn't do it that way.

Not everyone's going to have the same routine idea for a song or want to choreograph it in an old fashion way. Example: This one featuring Pasha and Melanie's from SYTYCD VW. It was criticized for having to much of a floating affect and lifts. The dance is beautiful and I still enjoy it.

http://youtu.be/Qoh9GT54dCA

It's not about that (BIB) it's finding some tunes from any era that suit the dance.

It started all going wrong on occasions, with Eleanor Rigby."

That explains why some songs have been used so often. Wonder what some of the pros could do if they had more of a free choice.

A Michael Jackson song for an Argentine Tango is yet another example of this. The Michael Jackson bit took over and the basic requirements of the dance were lost <big sigh>