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The Official Christmas Radio Times 2014 Countdown Thread
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wizzywick
10-03-2014
Originally Posted by Mr Sirs:
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Bought Radio Times & TV Times years ago when you had to for the BBC channels and ITV. When both mags were allowed to carry complete listings our family ditched TV Times for the Radio Times which we bought for many years.

Gradually though the price crept up and when What's On TV launched we moved over to that. Since now married myself I buy this every week too - we "only" have Freeview, so for that it's an excellent little magazine - good, clear layout, great value...

In the last year I managed to get 6 issues of RT for £1 - incl. the Christmas issue - thoroughly enjoyed it and it's a good quality read, but at £1.80 a copy (slightly less if subscribing) I couldn't justify the extra cost per week.”

Ben Preston doesn't care about his readers either. If you complain about the price and tell him you will not be buying it again, he just says "Oh well never mind." It needs to go down to £1.50 and then only increase by 5p per year like it used to.
Mr Sirs
10-03-2014
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Ben Preston doesn't care about his readers either. If you complain about the price and tell him you will not be buying it again, he just says "Oh well never mind." It needs to go down to £1.50 and then only increase by 5p per year like it used to.”


If it was around the £1.30 mark I would seriously consider buying it every week, but as you say that isn't going to happen.
Robert Williams
12-03-2014
Nothing to do with the Christmas edition, but I was amazed at how RT has this week has seen it fit to print Alison Graham's column, who has surpassed even her usual low standards with a page displaying her offensive, ageist attitude towards young people (who she constantly refers to as 'kids'), gloating over the closure of BBC Three as it means more money can be spent on programmes for 'grown-ups' (i.e. herself).

Not only that, but on the letters page they have managed to accompany letters about the closure of BBC Three with an image of Man Down - which was shown on Channel 4. All sadly indicative of the lowering of standards at a once-respected magazine.
blueisthecolour
12-03-2014
Originally Posted by Robert Williams:
“Nothing to do with the Christmas edition, but I was amazed at how RT has this week has seen it fit to print Alison Graham's column, who has surpassed even her usual low standards with a page displaying her offensive, ageist attitude towards young people (who she constantly refers to as 'kids'), gloating over the closure of BBC Three as it means more money can be spent on programmes for 'grown-ups' (i.e. herself).

Not only that, but on the letters page they have managed to accompany letters about the closure of BBC Three with an image of Man Down - which was shown on Channel 4. All sadly indicative of the lowering of standards at a once-respected magazine.”

It's not surprising given that the average age of a RT reader is 57. They are simply pandering to an audience whilst it still exists.
anotherlongers
12-03-2014
Originally Posted by blueisthecolour:
“It's not surprising given that the average age of a RT reader is 57. They are simply pandering to an audience whilst it still exists.”

My wife still buys it. I used to read it once but it's now a woman's magazine, 57 year old or not.
Pizzatheaction
12-03-2014
Originally Posted by Robert Williams:
“Nothing to do with the Christmas edition, but I was amazed at how RT has this week has seen it fit to print Alison Graham's column, who has surpassed even her usual low standards with a page displaying her offensive, ageist attitude towards young people (who she constantly refers to as 'kids'), gloating over the closure of BBC Three as it means more money can be spent on programmes for 'grown-ups' (i.e. herself).

Not only that, but on the letters page they have managed to accompany letters about the closure of BBC Three with an image of Man Down - which was shown on Channel 4. All sadly indicative of the lowering of standards at a once-respected magazine.”

I've noticed lots of mistakes in RT recently: a few weeks ago, comedian Tim Vine was credited as Jeremy Vine, and Timothy Spall was credited as Tomothy Small, and that was just in one article.

Graham's gloating looks all the more silly now, because since she wrote the article, it's emerged her favourite, BBC Four, could also be under threat in the not too distant future.
pedrok
13-03-2014
This Christmas will be 100 years since British and German troops climbed out of the trenches on Christmas Day and held an unofficial truce.

Given the BBC WW1 series I imagine that there will be something to commemorate this event this Christmas.
Batfink
14-03-2014
Originally Posted by pedrok:
“This Christmas will be 100 years since British and German troops climbed out of the trenches on Christmas Day and held an unofficial truce.

Given the BBC WW1 series I imagine that there will be something to commemorate this event this Christmas.”

Thats a very good call...
dodrade
16-03-2014
Originally Posted by Robert Williams:
“Nothing to do with the Christmas edition, but I was amazed at how RT has this week has seen it fit to print Alison Graham's column, who has surpassed even her usual low standards with a page displaying her offensive, ageist attitude towards young people (who she constantly refers to as 'kids'), gloating over the closure of BBC Three as it means more money can be spent on programmes for 'grown-ups' (i.e. herself).”

I love BBC Four but that column was vile and stupid. BBC Three viewers pay the licence fee too and as a PSB the BBC has a duty to cater for all audiences. If its closure goes ahead it will simply make it easier to axe BBC Four further down the line, as they will say just watch Sky Arts instead.
SHANK0055
17-03-2014
Originally Posted by Batfink:
“Thats a very good call...”

Very good, I think this'll be my early call for the cover
pedrok
17-03-2014
Originally Posted by SHANK0055:
“Very good, I think this'll be my early call for the cover”

Blast!!!!

That was going to be my call nearer the time
marke09
18-03-2014
Last year RT finished digitalsing all its back copies and made it available to BBc staff before the public could see it at the end of the year.

I emailed RT to see when this would be available but have had a reply to say that it probably wont be available to the public due to copyright and technical issues
Spdub2
18-03-2014
Originally Posted by marke09:
“Last year RT finished digitalsing all its back copies and made it available to BBc staff before the public could see it at the end of the year.

I emailed RT to see when this would be available but have had a reply to say that it probably wont be available to the public due to copyright and technical issues”

Well they never were supposed to be releasing scans of the issues because of the copyright issue just the schedules contained in them but that statement seems to be implying that they won't be releasing the schedules either
Robert Williams
19-03-2014
Originally Posted by Spdub2:
“Well they never were supposed to be releasing scans of the issues because of the copyright issue just the schedules contained in them but that statement seems to be implying that they won't be releasing the schedules either”

This is very disappointing if true. BBC staff are able to download complete issues of Radio Times, but as you say, that was never going to be available to the public anyway. The purpose of the exercise was to create a page on the BBC website for every programme the BBC has ever broadcast, with the ability to view schedules back to 1922 - this already exists back to 2007. I'm not sure what copyright issues there could be with the schedule data. I suppose I'll just have to stick with the old TV and radio listings on the Glasgow Herald and Glasgow Evening Times archives.
Anthony_Ryan
21-03-2014
Fans of the BBC Radio Four comedy series Cabin Pressure may be interested to know that there will be a Cabin Pressure Christmas special later this year.
I found out about this when I was listening to Feedback this afternoon.
Boyontbridge
25-03-2014
Originally Posted by Robert Williams:
“This is very disappointing if true. BBC staff are able to download complete issues of Radio Times, but as you say, that was never going to be available to the public anyway. The purpose of the exercise was to create a page on the BBC website for every programme the BBC has ever broadcast, with the ability to view schedules back to 1922 - this already exists back to 2007. I'm not sure what copyright issues there could be with the schedule data. I suppose I'll just have to stick with the old TV and radio listings on the Glasgow Herald and Glasgow Evening Times archives.”

So how much has this debacle cost the license payer? Has no-one at the BBC got the sense to check copyright issues before embarking on wasting our Money?
blueisthecolour
25-03-2014
Originally Posted by Boyontbridge:
“So how much has this debacle cost the license payer? Has no-one at the BBC got the sense to check copyright issues before embarking on wasting our Money?”

The poster said that the work was done by the RT, not the BBC.
Robert Williams
25-03-2014
Originally Posted by blueisthecolour:
“The poster said that the work was done by the RT, not the BBC.”

If you go back to the original blog post from 2010: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/abouttheb...omplete_broadc it looks like that the project was initiated by the BBC, not Radio Times, with the aim of creating a complete broadcast history of the corporation to be available to the public on BBC Online. They decided that the best way to go about that was to scan in old copies of Radio Times. Having the scanned issues available to download was really just a by-product of that and would be only be available to BBC staff due to copyright reasons. They were aware of this at the time, as the blog post states:

Quote:
“Radio Times is owned by the BBC's commercial arm BBC Worldwide and we currently do not have the rights to show the scanned pages themselves, although we hope we may be able to in the future”

(Radio Times is of course now longer owned by BBC Worldwide, whether that has affected anything I don't know.)

What, us the public, were supposed to have access to was the schedules and programme billings on BBC Online, much like we already have access to everything going back to 2007. I do wonder whether the e-mail from Radio Times was just referring to the scanned issues rather than the schedule data.
Boyontbridge
27-03-2014
Nice to see Rev back on our Screens this week. If ever a programme had the perfect backdrop for a Christmas Special this is it. Fingers Crossed
wizzywick
07-04-2014
So, with April upon us and the usual dross of what will be the Easter schedules, we can look forward to the highlights of what will be Christmas 2014 offerings.

BBC1 have confirmed:

Call The Midwife Christmas Special
Strictly Come Dancing Presented by Bruce Forsyth
Esio Trot

Does anyone know anymore?
marke09
08-04-2014
This week - 6 different covers for the RT BAFTA audience award - good luck finding the one you want I could only find Dr Who or Broadchurch

In the column for Next Week there is no mention of it being Easter and the panel isnt even decorated
Boyontbridge
08-04-2014
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“So, with April upon us and the usual dross of what will be the Easter schedules, we can look forward to the highlights of what will be Christmas 2014 offerings.

BBC1 have confirmed:

Call The Midwife Christmas Special
Strictly Come Dancing Presented by Bruce Forsyth
Esio Trot

Does anyone know anymore?”

Well assuming Eastbenders and Dr Who are nailed on, bookend them to Strictly and Midwife and you have a Christmas Night 2014 Line Up remarkably similar to the Christmas Night 2013 Line up, which, in turn, was remarkably similar to the Christmas night 2012 Line up.

Please give us something different
Pizzatheaction
08-04-2014
I see the border is back on the cover. I think it looks better without.

I received the Blues Brothers cover.

Edit: Breaking Bad not Blues Brothers.
Chris1964
08-04-2014
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“So, with April upon us and the usual dross of what will be the Easter schedules, we can look forward to the highlights of what will be Christmas 2014 offerings.

BBC1 have confirmed:

Call The Midwife Christmas Special
Strictly Come Dancing Presented by Bruce Forsyth
Esio Trot

Does anyone know anymore?”

Don't know if its been said before but another David Walliams book is being adapted for Christmas. This time its his first novel "The Boy in the Dress"
Stuart1000
09-04-2014
I'm assuming that the return of 'Still Game' for a Christmas/Hogmanay special will be very prominent in Scotland, if not the rest of the UK too.
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