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The One Direction Appreciation Thread (9)
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andi84
22-04-2014
Originally Posted by twingle:
“WMYB made the top 100 downloads of the (since downloads began I think!!) Possible 10 yrs? They weren't in top 20 but forgotten where they were but impressive never the less for how short their careers have been

Blurred lines made number one ”

They ended up at #47 with 877k downloads (plus about 40-50k physical sales, as their total for WMYB stands at more than 920k).

There have been 28 million sellers in download's history so far. Blurred Lines probably overtook Adele's "Someone Like You" in the last few weeks, as it's only 6k ahead.

Full list here: http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-...revealed-2942/

list with exact number of downloads: http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index...owtopic=165481
twingle
22-04-2014
Originally Posted by andi84:
“They ended up at #47 with 877k downloads (plus about 40-50k physical sales, as their total for WMYB stands at more than 920k).

There have been 28 million sellers in download's history so far. Blurred Lines probably overtook Adele's "Someone Like You" in the last few weeks, as it's only 6k ahead.

Full list here: http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-...revealed-2942/

list with exact number of downloads: http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index...owtopic=165481”

TY I was in the kitchen making dinner while listening so missed the number
Dumdedumdum
22-04-2014
Originally Posted by Andy_Smith1:
“but the camera was in wide shot and you could still see zayn I dont get the whole thing of wanting a close up on zayn doing ad libs, you can seem him do it and he doesn't look into it or to be giving any effort to it at all, your eyes are just drawn to niall doing the cartwheel because he's moving and the effect.
They all seem to be suffering from the cold I think the idea of having them outside in the weather wearing just a jumper was a bit stupid, and what acting from niall? all he did was walk out of a door into the cold, how is that acting? and they are singers not actors”

I would have been happy just to have Zayn moved to the middle and looking up when he was singing, it was hard to see him doing anything the others weren't doing (and all of their lip-synching was off). His high note is what the middle eighth is building up to, it's a shame to not feature it at all.

I'm not expecting the boys to be excellent actors but if you watch it again Niall was comical at the start, you could tell he was barely suppressing a giggle. Which is fine for a 1D video I suppose as they've always been a bit tongue in cheek. I think the whole thing could have been much better thought out even if it had been great weather that day.

Originally Posted by annushka:
“I agree that the bad wheather probably didn't help the video, I'm sure they did their best to fight the cold & look unbothered, but apart from Zayn, they all look a bit worse than they usually do... Better go for something indoor if they can't wear anything warm!
I found the video nice (better than I had expected), but it certainly isn't their best or most entertaining.

Add to that that I still don't believe in that song as the perfect single... (when people mostly talk about that high note & the ad libs at the end of the song made by Zayn, it tells you something about the song itself IMO). It is a nice album track, but I've considered it more as one of the fillers of the album... I don't get the last single choices!
I am a bit worried in a way, because i remember from the interviews that the boys talked about songs that I don't consider as stand out tracks on the album (like You&I, or Little Black Dress...) and didn't talk at all about songs that I love.”

I agree on it being a poor choice of single, although several of the album reviews in the list I posted a few pages ago did pick it out as a highlight. I also see your point about the ad-libs and high note (which doesn't make me swoon) - it more reflects that the first half of the song isn't doing much. It's a shame they've not gone for an upbeat song, 1D should still be about fun in the public's eyes so Happily would have been perfect. Although I'm glad it's not another Harry song.

Only a few more days till WWA starts! Liam and Harry appear to be in LA, Niall in Spain and Zouis=? If Liam can sneak into LA then I suspect Zayn and Louis are there too, and Niall may be on a night flight right now. There's going to be an announcement in Colombia on Thursday, I'm expecting Australia/NZ leg of the tour perhaps in January/Feb. As it's called WWA rather than Midnight Memories they can keep the same staging but swap in some songs from the 4th album, like Beyonce did on Mrs Carter. Or there'll make up a new meaningless tour name
MTUK1
22-04-2014
Originally Posted by Dumdedumdum:
“I would have been happy just to have Zayn moved to the middle and looking up when he was singing, it was hard to see him doing anything the others weren't doing (and all of their lip-synching was off). His high note is what the middle eighth is building up to, it's a shame to not feature it at all.

I'm not expecting the boys to be excellent actors but if you watch it again Niall was comical at the start, you could tell he was barely suppressing a giggle. Which is fine for a 1D video I suppose as they've always been a bit tongue in cheek. I think the whole thing could have been much better thought out even if it had been great weather that day.



I agree on it being a poor choice of single, although several of the album reviews in the list I posted a few pages ago did pick it out as a highlight. I also see your point about the ad-libs and high note (which doesn't make me swoon) - it more reflects that the first half of the song isn't doing much. It's a shame they've not gone for an upbeat song, 1D should still be about fun in the public's eyes so Happily would have been perfect. Although I'm glad it's not another Harry song.

Only a few more days till WWA starts! Liam and Harry appear to be in LA, Niall in Spain and Zouis=? If Liam can sneak into LA then I suspect Zayn and Louis are there too, and Niall may be on a night flight right now. There's going to be an announcement in Colombia on Thursday, I'm expecting Australia/NZ leg of the tour perhaps in January/Feb. As it's called WWA rather than Midnight Memories they can keep the same staging but swap in some songs from the 4th album, like Beyonce did on Mrs Carter. Or there'll make up a new meaningless tour name ”

You are a bit fixated on them getting to Columbia in time. When you're as rich as them and can travel 1st class and have a nice flat bed and lots of rest. Yes, they may still be a bit jet lagged, but it's not as if they have to slum it out in economy like us normal people. Even if they fly out tomorrow, they'll be fine.
Dumdedumdum
23-04-2014
Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“You are a bit fixated on them getting to Columbia in time. When you're as rich as them and can travel 1st class and have a nice flat bed and lots of rest. Yes, they may still be a bit jet lagged, but it's not as if they have to slum it out in economy like us normal people. Even if they fly out tomorrow, they'll be fine.”

Haha I know, I just have a terrible fear of some sort of airport strike or bad weather delaying their flights. I want them to appear like a mature professional music act this year so delivering a great performance every show. And obviously their fans deserve it. I've recently had awful jet lag as well, it wiped me out. Although flying East-West is better and they are energetic young lads. I hope Niall's knee doesn't stop him bouncing around the stage.

Can't wait to see the setlist - and lots of videos of them singing the new songs.
MTUK1
23-04-2014
Originally Posted by Dumdedumdum:
“Haha I know, I just have a terrible fear of some sort of airport strike or bad weather delaying their flights. I want them to appear like a mature professional music act this year so delivering a great performance every show. And obviously their fans deserve it. I've recently had awful jet lag as well, it wiped me out. Although flying East-West is better and they are energetic young lads. I hope Niall's knee doesn't stop him bouncing around the stage.

Can't wait to see the setlist - and lots of videos of them singing the new songs.”

Did he not have an operation on it a few months ago? I thought his Knee problems would be OK after that?
Cakesy
23-04-2014
He would still need to do rehab and even then it still can take months to fully recover. Not long ago you could still see he was wearing a brace on his knee underneath his jeans in candids.
abrightyz
23-04-2014
listen with earphones!! http://ofzane.tumblr.com/post/835082...s-in-you-and-i
Dumdedumdum
23-04-2014
Originally Posted by Cakesy:
“He would still need to do rehab and even then it still can take months to fully recover. Not long ago you could still see he was wearing a brace on his knee underneath his jeans in candids.”

Yes he said that it will be a while before he is jumping around on stage. I hope the other boys don't bundle him again, Zayn will probably be terrified they'll hurt him. I hope Zayn gets more confident this tour. If they use any of Right Now, Something Great & Half a Heart he'll look like the lead singer really. I hope his voice gets some great reviews. Their music is quite different now so I'm expecting them to have less interaction in terms of bouncing up and fondling each other during the upbeat songs. I'm wondering how they will stage big numbers like Little White Lies. They've done well to not have any reliable-looking setlists etc. leak with this fandom.

A random 'sighting' of Zayn in Poland (which looks nothing like him) but aside from that there's nothing to say that they aren't all on their way to Colombia.
twingle
23-04-2014
Originally Posted by Dumdedumdum:
“Yes he said that it will be a while before he is jumping around on stage. I hope the other boys don't bundle him again, Zayn will probably be terrified they'll hurt him. I hope Zayn gets more confident this tour. If they use any of Right Now, Something Great & Half a Heart he'll look like the lead singer really. I hope his voice gets some great reviews. Their music is quite different now so I'm expecting them to have less interaction in terms of bouncing up and fondling each other during the upbeat songs. I'm wondering how they will stage big numbers like Little White Lies. They've done well to not have any reliable-looking setlists etc. leak with this fandom.

A random 'sighting' of Zayn in Poland (which looks nothing like him) but aside from that there's nothing to say that they aren't all on their way to Colombia.”

Don't be too fixated on the lead singer angle. All the boys have expressed they want to be equal. I know a lot of Zayn fans think Harry gets lead too often but if IRC didn't Columbia want him to be lead singer and he declined altho of course that could have all been rumour. Things really have changed from X Factor days when Liam led every song and Niall and Louis hardly got two lines. Zayn really is their shining light as regards vocals but he doesn't need to have lead vocals to show that . His ad libs are what makes their songs so special
andi84
23-04-2014
Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“Did he not have an operation on it a few months ago? I thought his Knee problems would be OK after that?”

He mentioned in a tweet that he won't be able to play in his own football charity match at the end of May. So not all is fine yet... Still recovering from surgery.
Bluestone
23-04-2014
Originally Posted by twingle:
“Don't be too fixated on the lead singer angle. All the boys have expressed they want to be equal. I know a lot of Zayn fans think Harry gets lead too often but if IRC didn't Columbia want him to be lead singer and he declined altho of course that could have all been rumour. Things really have changed from X Factor days when Liam led every song and Niall and Louis hardly got two lines. Zayn really is their shining light as regards vocals but he doesn't need to have lead vocals to show that . His ad libs are what makes their songs so special”

As you will know, I am a die hard Zayniac. However I am also the kind that speaks the truth (as I see it) and I do feel that Zayn doesnt sell himself as a lead singer in the way that Liam and Harry would/do. Therefore I question with regret whether she should get that honour.

A lot of the time now (not so much with in the UAN era) he sings to the boys or as he's turning away from the crowd and sauntering across to the other side. He's trying to ooze coolness that he even holds his mic with a lazy/slouchy grip.
Whereas, Harry and Liam are better at singing to the crowd, and emoting their words with gestures, arm pointing or fisting pumping etc.
This annoys me about Zayn. Best voice but does not emote physically as well as vocally. On that basis, I struggle to say he should be put forward as lead singer bearing in mind the needs for this obvious passion in live performances.
Mina_Cameron
23-04-2014
Originally Posted by Bluestone:
“As you will know, I am a die hard Zayniac. However I am also the kind that speaks the truth (as I see it) and I do feel that Zayn doesnt sell himself as a lead singer in the way that Liam and Harry would/do. Therefore I question with regret whether she should get that honour.

A lot of the time now (not so much with in the UAN era) he sings to the boys or as he's turning away from the crowd and sauntering across to the other side. He's trying to ooze coolness that he even holds his mic with a lazy/slouchy grip.
Whereas, Harry and Liam are better at singing to the crowd, and emoting their words with gestures, arm pointing or fisting pumping etc.
This annoys me about Zayn. Best voice but does not emote physically as well as vocally. On that basis, I struggle to say he should be put forward as lead singer bearing in mind the needs for this obvious passion in live performances.”

I agree with you to an extent. I'm hoping that he's increased in confidence and focus this tour or regained some of his UAN confidence. The interesting thing with Zayn is he's really great at emoting with his voice all the time, and he's good on video and in small venues, and he's especially good with ballads. He'll never be one of those people doing forward rolls or cavorting in between solos (thank God, and it also makes some sense when he's carrying really difficult parts) but he could stand to work on honing his stagecraft and presence in those huge spaces much more.

I wonder if their team assists them with that as I find that's one place in which they are all lacking to some degree, despite just how much they've been touring in the last three years.
ImperfectPearls
23-04-2014
Originally Posted by Bluestone:
“As you will know, I am a die hard Zayniac. However I am also the kind that speaks the truth (as I see it) and I do feel that Zayn doesnt sell himself as a lead singer in the way that Liam and Harry would/do. Therefore I question with regret whether she should get that honour.

A lot of the time now (not so much with in the UAN era) he sings to the boys or as he's turning away from the crowd and sauntering across to the other side. He's trying to ooze coolness that he even holds his mic with a lazy/slouchy grip.
Whereas, Harry and Liam are better at singing to the crowd, and emoting their words with gestures, arm pointing or fisting pumping etc.
This annoys me about Zayn. Best voice but does not emote physically as well as vocally. On that basis, I struggle to say he should be put forward as lead singer bearing in mind the needs for this obvious passion in live performances.”

I agree, Zayn is fabulous but he's not a front man. I do not want One Direction to have a lead singer but there's no doubt in my mind that if they had to it would be Harry all the way. I don't know what it is about him but personally I think Harry is just brilliant, he is so charismatic and charming and the thing I love the most is that he just genuinely seems like a lovely person. His voice is great too, I love his raspy sort of sound.
Cakesy
23-04-2014
I'll be honest and say that I'm not a huge fan of Harry's voice as of late. While the others have made notable progress since the X Factor and found what mode they work best in, it feels like he's regressed, resorting to shouting rather than singing a lot of the time. As for Zayn I don't think he'd be comfortable playing the role of lead and I think that comes across on stage, but I do think that they are very smart in using his voice as a hidden weapon of sorts, saving him for the glory notes and giving him that huge moment to shine.
annushka
23-04-2014
I think that they were VERY smart not to have a lead singer because none of the boys fit the bill perfectly in the past and now. It also set them apart from most of the big boybands (I think... I'm not a specialist).

The 2 potencial leads were at first Liam & Harry.

You can't complain about Liam's control & voice, it was there from the start. Being reliable might seem like a backhanded compliment, but 1D would have gone nowhere without him.

However, he doesn't grab your attention the way Harry does -despite his technical issues (I also prefer Harry's tone, but that's personal).
I disagree that Harry hasn't improved: My perception is that he hit a rough patch in 2011/12 (his voice changed maybe...), and he has been gaining back control ever since with some hiccups still occuring (he seems to have less issues when on tour than during promo, doesn't he?), especially when they are overworked & tired... I hope that he keeps on working on his voice, he also has a pretty good range I think (not like Zayn, but good IMO).

In 2012 (maybe?), Zayn's true vocal potencial was exposed/discovered (I think TMH & the TMH tour is when it became fully obvious), and he has become 1D's best singer. But I agree with those who say that there is a problem with his enthousiasm on stage...
abrightyz
24-04-2014
if only i could transfer even half of my enthusiasm to my boii
Dumdedumdum
24-04-2014
Very good points about Zayn. He was definitely doing the least with the most stage presence-wise on the TMH tour. It's funny because I've read several print interviews that say he is very charismatic but he seems to be really camera shy. Though in XF and 2011 interviews he was quite bubbly. In the SOML TV performances and the movie he looked very uninterested in being there (and pretty lazy). Definitely vocally though he has something special - you can tell a 1D song from the Zayn ad-libs and riffs in the last 30 seconds. I've said on main DS articles that Harry's charisma and Zayn's voice are what set them apart from the competition. I hope now that their songs are 'bigger' he won't disappear - I expect them not to perform Right Now, Something Great or Half a Heart as the others don't have all that much to do on them. The stadium stages are so big though and he's really little now.

Harry is a natural showman isn't he, incredibly charismatic and he 'gets' what the audience and media want. I'll be honest and say that as a showbiz act they wouldn't have got off the ground without Harry Styles, but Liam keeps them all together vocally. Musically they aren't going to gain new fans without Zayn - his voice is really mature. Is it just me who feels Niall is somewhat taking over Harry's role as entertainer and face of the group on Twitter (and maybe the British media)?

I love Harry's vocal tone on the records and concert videos but he pretty much shouted his solos and - for me - ruined their TV performances of SOML. If he does the same with You & I on BGT (if they do it) I'll want to smack him.
Dumdedumdum
24-04-2014
Mina - will you let me know when it's safe to go back into the Little Mix thread? I couldn't stomach all the posts defending Perrie's carelessness/stupidity. I might have to wait 'til the Salute video is out.
Mina_Cameron
24-04-2014
Originally Posted by Dumdedumdum:
“Mina - will you let me know when it's safe to go back into the Little Mix thread? I couldn't stomach all the posts defending Perrie's carelessness/stupidity. I might have to wait 'til the Salute video is out.”

Ugh, I know how you feel. The thread's on a new page and no one's discussing it now, so please come back. That discussion was really troubling. I actually like Perrie a lot but I don't like when people dismiss things just because they don't think it's important/don't want to learn.

Originally Posted by Cakesy:
“I'll be honest and say that I'm not a huge fan of Harry's voice as of late. While the others have made notable progress since the X Factor and found what mode they work best in, it feels like he's regressed, resorting to shouting rather than singing a lot of the time. As for Zayn I don't think he'd be comfortable playing the role of lead and I think that comes across on stage, but I do think that they are very smart in using his voice as a hidden weapon of sorts, saving him for the glory notes and giving him that huge moment to shine.”

This has been my feelings re: Harry's voice. When I listened to the isolated vocals from those last 40 seconds of You & I, the thing that struck me most was how warm (with a bit of husk) Zayn's tone is in comparison to how Harry's voice is shouty in a way that grated on my ears. I wonder if their vocal coach works with them on fixing some of their more noticeably bad habits because I love the grit to his voice but he can overdo it and/or lack control.

If a type of singer could be identified for each, Zayn would likely be more of a Frank Ocean-type performer (although with a few dance tracks because his voice was made for it, haha), quiet and not overly-concerned with elaborate showmanship but very earnest.
andi84
24-04-2014
You & I is already in the top 40 on itunes UK. Really surprised by that, it's not getting considerable airplay so far, even though it was "song of the day" on BBC Radio 1 today. Maybe that helped... But it's been climbing up the charts all week, ever since the release of the video actually. Still, that effect usually wears off after a day or two. Not complaining though
twingle
24-04-2014
Originally Posted by andi84:
“You & I is already in the top 40 on itunes UK. Really surprised by that, it's not getting considerable airplay so far, even though it was "song of the day" on BBC Radio 1 today. Maybe that helped... But it's been climbing up the charts all week, ever since the release of the video actually. Still, that effect usually wears off after a day or two. Not complaining though ”

Third try with this post! I think there is a gremlin in the system!!

I heard it on Fern's show for frst time today and all the comments afterwards were pretty good except for a bloke saying *urgh has westlife reformed* I must admit the song does sound a bit west lifey

Re Harry I agree he doesn't seem to be the most consistent and he does shout in some oft he songs but I presumed they were supposed to be like that otherwise the voice coach or even Liam would have pulled him up on it. Sadly I do think that disastrous performance on red or black has affected him nerves wise as he seems to be worse on the big TV performances like the AMA's yet brilliant on the Brits with owoa but you could see he was still nervous at the start.. I o love how he puts his all into every performance though and some of the others could learn from him

I had a little spray of that moment the other day and don't like it as much as this moment but have to say it stayed on my skin longer. This moment doesn't last very long
Dumdedumdum
24-04-2014
Quick post - some amazing person has taken loads of videos of the boys rehearsing so we have a setlist. And it's pretty much all off MM. Her battery died before she could finish the soundcheck.

http://instagram.com/pinnockhq

Right Now
MM
TTD
Strong
DFWYB
Little Black Dress
Moments
Happily
C'mon C'mon
Little Things
LWWY
Why Don't We Go There
Rock Me
MTUK1
24-04-2014
Originally Posted by Dumdedumdum:
“Quick post - some amazing person has taken loads of videos of the boys rehearsing so we have a setlist. And it's pretty much all off MM. Her battery died before she could finish the soundcheck.

http://instagram.com/pinnockhq

Right Now
MM
TTD
Strong
DFWYB
Little Black Dress
Moments
Happily
C'mon C'mon
Little Things
LWWY
Why Don't We Go There
Rock Me”

All sounds really good. They all sound vocally very tight and Zayn kills it as usual. Can't wait!
Dumdedumdum
25-04-2014
Update:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmBSZF_CcAAlgI3.jpg
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