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The One Direction Appreciation Thread (9)
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Dumdedumdum
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by ImperfectPearls:
“I wouldn't mind them, I quite like having a support act that I've heard of do I can enjoy them and sing along without having to go and search down an album etc... And no I've not heard that!! D'you reckon it's true? He does seem to be very into it but surely he's too famous atm for it, lolz!”

McBusted have just announced that they're supporting on the Australia dates. I guess Samantha Jade will do a mini set first. They have their own tour starting mid March so I guess the other Leg 1 dates will have local acts like for South America. They could join the Europe and US dates though.

McB are too big to support arena dates in the UK (but could do Swansea) so I think there will be a Syco act on the bill. Maybe Labrinth.
MTUK1
18-01-2015
Originally Posted by Dumdedumdum:
“McBusted have just announced that they're supporting on the Australia dates. I guess Samantha Jade will do a mini set first. They have their own tour starting mid March so I guess the other Leg 1 dates will have local acts like for South America. They could join the Europe and US dates though.

McB are too big to support arena dates in the UK (but could do Swansea) so I think there will be a Syco act on the bill. Maybe Labrinth.”

Mcbusted as a combined unit haven't done that well in the UK. I could see them taking support.
andi84
18-01-2015
FOUR still top 10 (#9) --> first 9 weeks top 10, that's the same as TMH did; MM was out of the top 10 by week 7! However, it had sold a lot more in those 6 weeks in the top 10

NC still top 20 (#18)

SMG still top 30 (#30) after 14 weeks! First single since WMYB to spend that long in the top 30! SOML was even out of the top 40 in week 14!


And by the way, SOML is now 3x platinum (= 3 million downloads or streaming equivalents) in the US! Still only their second multi-platinum single in the US after WMYB (4x plat.).
abrightyz
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by andi84:
“FOUR still top 10 (#9) --> first 9 weeks top 10, that's the same as TMH did; MM was out of the top 10 by week 7! However, it had sold a lot more in those 6 weeks in the top 10

NC still top 20 (#18)

SMG still top 30 (#30) after 14 weeks! First single since WMYB to spend that long in the top 30! SOML was even out of the top 40 in week 14!


And by the way, SOML is now 3x platinum (= 3 million downloads or streaming equivalents) in the US! Still only their second multi-platinum single in the US after WMYB (4x plat.).”


wow!! SOML!!
abrightyz
19-01-2015
http://champzagne.tumblr.com/post/10...the-eye-lashes
andi84
19-01-2015
FOUR sold 7762 copies last week, total now 546,967 in the UK.

NC sold around 17.5k, total now 229.5k
SMG sold around 14.5k, total now 444k
MTUK1
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by andi84:
“FOUR sold 7762 copies last week, total now 546,967 in the UK.

NC sold around 17.5k, total now 229.5k
SMG sold around 14.5k, total now 444k”

Blimey. January is abysmal for albums sales in the UK.
andi84
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“Blimey. January is abysmal for albums sales in the UK.”

It's going to get worse The top 3 albums all sold over 20k (23-24k). There was a week in August a few years ago when the #1 album barely sold 10k... In a time when overall album sales were much stronger than they are now
String9
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by andi84:
“FOUR sold 7762 copies last week, total now 546,967 in the UK.

NC sold around 17.5k, total now 229.5k
SMG sold around 14.5k, total now 444k”

Not bad overall, considering it's the 4th album. With the way some carrying on, you would think they were barely scraping 50k.
Mina_Cameron
19-01-2015
So there's a snippet of Zayn doing a cover of 'No Type' or just singing over the track in his shenanigans with Naughty Boy over the last couple of days floating around. You can hear him in the background over the guys playing with the skateboard. And let me just say, this boy was born to sing RnB.

I like that he's hanging out with Krept and other people in the UK urban scene, it will hopefully stand him in good stead if he does his own stuff in the future.
andi84
19-01-2015
Originally Posted by String9:
“Not bad overall, considering it's the 4th album. With the way some carrying on, you would think they were barely scraping 50k.”

Yeah, I know I mean it's going to be a while before FOUR hits double platinum (600k), but still, which group wouldn't "kill" to have those sales with any album Even Coldplay are barely over 550k and their latest album was released months before FOUR.
Overjoyed
19-01-2015
One Direction notch up 1bn streams on Spotify

http://www.theguardian.com/music/201...ams-on-spotify
andi84
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by Overjoyed:
“One Direction notch up 1bn streams on Spotify

http://www.theguardian.com/music/201...ams-on-spotify”

Isn't that old news? I haven't seen that article, so thanks for posting. But I remember reading they were the second band after Coldplay to reach that feat...
MTUK1
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by andi84:
“Isn't that old news? I haven't seen that article, so thanks for posting. But I remember reading they were the second band after Coldplay to reach that feat...”

The article was written on November 25.
Overjoyed
20-01-2015
Originally Posted by andi84:
“Isn't that old news? I haven't seen that article, so thanks for posting. But I remember reading they were the second band after Coldplay to reach that feat...”

Originally Posted by MTUK1:
“The article was written on November 25.”

Oops, sorry - didn't notice the date of the article.
abrightyz
21-01-2015
Originally Posted by Overjoyed:
“Oops, sorry - didn't notice the date of the article.”

still great after all these months lolz
Dumdedumdum
22-01-2015
I wonder how much money artists, writers and producers are making from Spotify and other streaming sites. Spotify is valuable in promoting concerts and merchandise and in getting new people to listen to music but until more users get on paid subscriptions I don't think the pay per stream is anything like radio play. The songswriter of Heaven Is A Place on Earth got a cheque for something like £5.45 and Aloe Blacc said his Avicci song had masses of streams but he only got $10k for it. Given that Louis and Liam co-write with several others and album sales aren't huge I can't see them earning much more than the other 3. They may have made some pocket money from Steal My Girl though. I wonder if there is a 4th single whether they will choose one of the songs that Harry co-wrote or stay doing none of the boys, all 5, or Louis-Liam.

What do people think about the 5th album: Has Liam been spending his Twitter absence writing with Louis? They are rumoured to be in LA and last year that meant studio sessions. Will Zayn's studio time with Naughty Boy benefit 1D? Will they write on the road again? Use the break between Dubai and Europe to focus on it as a group? Until the tour starts there's not much else to do but speculate
Overjoyed
23-01-2015
Originally Posted by Dumdedumdum:
“I wonder how much money artists, writers and producers are making from Spotify and other streaming sites.”

Savan Kotecha tweeted this article about it at the end of last month:

http://www.aux.tv/2014/12/pharrell-w...happy-streams/
Overjoyed
23-01-2015
Originally Posted by Dumdedumdum:
“What do people think about the 5th album: Has Liam been spending his Twitter absence writing with Louis? They are rumoured to be in LA”

And unless he got very drunk, very early the other day, I'd say he's not in LA given the time of his tweet But who knows!
Bluestone
23-01-2015
Originally Posted by Dumdedumdum:
“I wonder how much money artists, writers and producers are making from Spotify and other streaming sites. Spotify is valuable in promoting concerts and merchandise and in getting new people to listen to music but until more users get on paid subscriptions I don't think the pay per stream is anything like radio play. The songswriter of Heaven Is A Place on Earth got a cheque for something like £5.45 and Aloe Blacc said his Avicci song had masses of streams but he only got $10k for it. Given that Louis and Liam co-write with several others and album sales aren't huge I can't see them earning much more than the other 3. They may have made some pocket money from Steal My Girl though. I wonder if there is a 4th single whether they will choose one of the songs that Harry co-wrote or stay doing none of the boys, all 5, or Louis-Liam.

What do people think about the 5th album: Has Liam been spending his Twitter absence writing with Louis? They are rumoured to be in LA and last year that meant studio sessions. Will Zayn's studio time with Naughty Boy benefit 1D? Will they write on the road again? Use the break between Dubai and Europe to focus on it as a group? Until the tour starts there's not much else to do but speculate ”

I've always wondered about all this too.
Bluestone
23-01-2015
So the Radio 1 BBC weekender has been announced for 23-24 May in Norwich.

Are the boys likely to be on the bill again? Would it even work with their schedule?
twingle
23-01-2015
Argh my 1D movie is stuck in my DVD. Not sure if DVD is gone as won't switch on to get it out or is to do with my sky box. Will have to ask my brother next time he is round but hopefully he won't look at DVD if he gets it out
annushka
23-01-2015
Originally Posted by Overjoyed:
“Savan Kotecha tweeted this article about it at the end of last month:

http://www.aux.tv/2014/12/pharrell-w...happy-streams/”

Streaming services really rob artists.
I wasn't that impressed with Taylor Swift when she removed her music from spotify because I thought it was just an attempt to drive her direct sales up, but I had no idea how abysmal this type of revenue is.
andi84
23-01-2015
FOUR certified platinum in the US (1 million copies sold, incl. streaming)! Very nice result, I'd say, give it barely sold 400k in its first week
Dumdedumdum
24-01-2015
Originally Posted by Bluestone:
“So the Radio 1 BBC weekender has been announced for 23-24 May in Norwich.

Are the boys likely to be on the bill again? Would it even work with their schedule?”

The boys would be free that weekend - the Europe leg doesn't start until 10th June. Taylor Swift is headlining one night so perhaps the boys would do the other, or open one of the days like last time. I quite like that format, it means a big act doesn't feel snubbed by not getting a nighttime headline slot.

Originally Posted by annushka:
“ Streaming services really rob artists.
I wasn't that impressed with Taylor Swift when she removed her music from spotify because I thought it was just an attempt to drive her direct sales up, but I had no idea how abysmal this type of revenue is.”

That's worst than I thought! $2,700 from 3million plays of Happy, and that's then divided between publisher, artist and songwriters.

I know people defend streaming services by saying at least the artist earns something compared to when people just illegally download, but I have several songs and albums on spotify playlists that I would have otherwise bought. Louis and Liam better not count on that as a pension plan then. Of course if they write a hit single it will rake it in via radio and TV play and being used in adverts. Album track income will be chickenfeed though.
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