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Let's be honest. It's really time they dumped the Rumba
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Let's be honest. It's really time they dumped the Rumba
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I thought they wanted to do him in this week by giving him that dance now. Surprised they placed him so highly.
I think the order in which they each are given particular dances to do each week is far more potentially influential than the order in which they dance in each show, which seems to create much more angst on this forum. |
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*bump
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Was just going to have a mini rant about bumping but I get it now
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It's a tribute to Roger Hargreaves characters.
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I do like Patrick but would want him to do well on merit not because he works on a soap which is on BBC and someone there wants him to win. I did rewatch the Rumba as I wasnt sure at first and imo he was better than Ashley.
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Let's be honest. It's really time they dumped the Rumba
Patrick is a better dancer than Ashley, especially in the Latin where it becomes far more obvious that his hips work in the correct way. Patrick has natural rhythm and musicality and has a pro who has made best use of his skills. |
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There is no way Patrick deserved to be (joint-)top of the leaderboard after his dances tonight. The Rumba was quite uncomfortable to watch and his Swingathon dance was a complete mess. Darcey specifically lacked any sort of subtlety about it, giving a 10 for a very mediocre dance.
![]() Funny that both Patrick and Susanna work for the BBC though..
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I think Ashley is a more engaging dancer although I do concede Patrick has good hip action. I also prefer Ashley and Ola's partnership.
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I thought they wanted to do him in this week by giving him that dance now. Surprised they placed him so highly.
I think the order in which they each are given particular dances to do each week is far more potentially influential than the order in which they dance in each show, which seems to create much more angst on this forum. In terms of crowd pleasing dances, a salsa is always going to beat a Rumbe hands down. |
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IMHO there wasn't much right with it. There were heel leads. He stumbled a couple of times. There were very few basic rumba steps. There was no rumba hip action and it was very wooden and static. A very poor rumba not reaching basic bronze medal standard!
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Gosh, the bias on this thread is quite shocking
![]() I wonder why so many of you dislike this man so much when he is clearly the best male dancer - and I know what I am talking about and am the hardest critic. All dancers are. His rumba was superb. Ashley's salsa was a badly executed, wooden hipped samba with very bad salsa steps thrown in. Awkward, flat footed and devoid of any Latin movement. Patrick is streets ahead of him. Deal with it.
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patrick is great. but it wasn't his best week. rhumba was ok, bits i really liked but its not a wow dance, and the swingathon, well, everyone looked a mess to me, except artem.
Check back on other dancer's marks for the rhumba. Patrick is definitely the best male celebrity dancer. Also I am NOT a great fan of Natalie who I have discovered had dance training, she is definitely over hyped. |
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I really like Patrick but didn't think he deserved a 10 for his rumba - there's no way it was perfect and he was very lucky to be second in the swingathon. Although I found it difficult to actually see what he was doing because I felt the camera hardly went to him or Sophie.
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I really like Patrick but didn't think he deserved a 10 for his rumba - there's no way it was perfect and he was very lucky to be second in the swingathon. Although I found it difficult to actually see what he was doing because I felt the camera hardly went to him or Sophie.
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I don't dislike Patrick, he seems a nice genuine sort of man. But a good dancer he is not IMO. I have been struggling right from the start to see what the judges fall over themselves to praise. And I just can't see it. Mark had much more natural rhythm than Patrick.
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I love Patrick, he's someone who has steadily improved and became a real contender out of nowhere imo. I really liked his Rumba, I think it deserved 37 - Rumbas's with male celebrities can look really painful, but he pulled it off well.
But I agree about the Swingathon. Abbey and Patrick were a bit disappointing. And poor Ashley was robbed. |
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I don't dislike Patrick, he seems a nice genuine sort of man. But a good dancer he is not IMO. I have been struggling right from the start to see what the judges fall over themselves to praise. And I just can't see it. Mark had much more natural rhythm than Patrick.
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Well the judges are probably making up for the bias of the public who seem to be generally against Patrick. I think patrick is great with some of his dances among my favourites (Charleston, American Smooth and Salsa). BUT I do think that's what makes Strictly fun - there is no clear winner and a variety of opinions and favourites.
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While he wasn't awful, he didn't appear to have the hip action that was being said he did (I still think he lacks in this area). And while he was a good support for Anya, he didn't do an awful lot of dancing himself (which is not his fault choreography wise obv). I know the Rumba is a dance to present the lady, just as the Paso is more to show the man, but the man in the former and the woman in the latter (as seen in Professional dances) can still dance alot more even if aren't the focus of the dance. So, Patrick, for me, still should have been given more to dance in that routine despite it being a Rumba (unless Anya gave him less for a reason). I'm sure other celeb males (that have had the capability) have danced more, so it's not impossible to show the men can still dance in this while also being a solid support. This routine certainly didn't do anything for me.
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In my honest opinion Patrick did NOT deserve a 10 for his Rumba - his hip action was not that good - Darcey lost it when she gave him that 10 - I totally agree with what Stephen Mulhern said on the Friday Panel on ITT that I can't warm to Patrick at all - he comes across as quite conceited which I don't like - in that partnership I much prefer Anya over Patrick.
This is just my honest opinion though - you don't have to agree with me on it. From Hayley |
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I agree, last week Patrick's Charleston was no way a better dance than others who scored lower! and it was the same this week..
Funny that both Patrick and Susanna work for the BBC though.. ![]() |
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That would be true if the competition was Patrick against all other male celeb rumbas, but it isn't. It's against those who were dancing tonight, and it wasn't good.
I'm really fed up with the male celebs being 'brainwashed', by the judges and just about everyone else, into believing the rumba is such a hard dance for male celebs. NO IT ISN'T. It really isn't. Patrick had a decent stab at it but I don't think it was better than Louis' 60 seconds of it last year which Darcy marked lower. |
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That would be true if the competition was Patrick against all other male celeb rumbas, but it isn't. It's against those who were dancing tonight, and it wasn't good.
I'm really fed up with the male celebs being 'brainwashed', by the judges and just about everyone else, into believing the rumba is such a hard dance for male celebs. NO IT ISN'T. It really isn't. The female celebrity in the rumba can get away with a lot of armography, some spins and turns and a bit of "sensual" gyrating. I find it an utterly boring dance whoever's doing it and whether it's danced well or not. Even the acknowledged stars of it leave me cold. |
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