Quite frankly I thought the Nat and Artem dance routine was ridiculous. Artem was centre stage, looking "fabulous"!!!(Look at me, look at me number) Am I the only one bored to death with comments about topless male dancers!! Oh dear, hopping around exposing his chest, while Natalie walked around doing arm movements and flapping her skirt! Bizarre.

No - but the stink Sergeantgate created lingered over the show, along with Arlene's exit and Alesha's arrival. Plus a lacklustre line-up for Series 7. The BBC were panicked into doing something about the team managing Strictly then. There's nothing remotely like that now.

Indeed. She danced with legs of porridge.

Think we need to get real.

Regardless of the music, the choreography, the dress, whatever - Susanna was very poor.

Have to laugh at those blaming the music choice for Susanannah and Kevin's poor dancing, did this account for her poor dancing in the quickstep too, when she was given the best musical music for her quickstep.

She is by far the worst dancer left, I don't mind that people, like her but please at least retain. Some semblance of reality, Susannah was poor in that dance because she is a poor dancer and Kevin choreographs to showcase his strengths not cover her weaknesses

Susanna has performed the worst of everyone left for three weeks now according to the leaderboard. I know the leaderboard can be manipulated. I know the show isn't necessarily "fair" but to claim a stitch-up because the weakest dancer left (according to the judges) is in the dance-off is ridiculous. I don't think it will happen anyway. I think Susanna and Kevin are an unstoppable juggernaut, crashing through to the glitterball. In a way, I wish I could see what others see in them but I really can't.

Don't we basically get new Exec Producers nearly ever year now anyway? Moira did two series, then it was two people whose names I've forgotten now last year, and now it's Louise Rainbow. I doubt those calling for the producers heads have much to worry about - it'll be a whole new set of faceless suits to rail against tomorrow.

Were you also bored when Kevin and Susannah did this a few weeks ago, it got praise from the judges , Artem does the same thing but with better dancing and gets panned , why?

At least Artem gave Natalie a bit more skirt wafting to do.

If anyone was at an obvious disadvantage, surely it was the men landing a Rumba *groan* and a Salsa in the same week the four women are given the AT, a Tango, a VW and a blooming Paso! Four routines traditionally in hold, even if Artem ignored that bit mostly. Kevin too possibly - I won't be taking another look to find out though

Never mind

Maybe a new controller of entertainment then? The BBC could certainly do with one looking at non-SCD Saturday nights ...

Unfortunately Kevin is neither a very good dancer nor choreographer, and a dance he's never performed before was likely to be a recipe for disaster.

Susannah would have been better off with Brendan or James.

What are you talking about?!

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or any of the other PROS at this point. Just because he comes from growing up with ballroom it doesn't make him good at it.

Kevin's lack of talent?

I think their AT was probably the worst performance they have done, certainly they were the worst dancers on the night. They both looked so unsure of themselves. I expected them to be in the dance off but their popularity as a couple saved them.

I actually like Susanna and Kevin but that was not a good dance for them and I think they both knew it.

THIS. It wasn't the best dance ever, but the dance itself was good. It had passion, and acceptable quality moves, try watching it without the sound.

The majority of people who are saying it was the 'worst AT ever', have been influenced by the inappropriate music choice, which made it feel disjointed and really brought down the whole dance. Music is dance, and both are art, and music does colour our emotion, intensity and ability to invest when watching a dance. That's why everything from movies to adverts use musical scores.

If the music is not right for the dance then it doesn't matter how good the steps are danced, something will feel off. Actually, the first few seconds of that music worked, but then it quickly went off course.

Try watching Susanna's AT without the music. It isn't phenomenal, but it's no where near as bad as some may think, and it certainly had intensity.

Kavin was a Youth World Number 1 and four time British Latin Champion and won International Open titles in Italy, Germany, Spain, Portugal, Sweden, Japan, France, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore, Slovenia, Slovakia, Finland and Belgium.

I thought the stitch up was the fact that she wasn't in the dance off. Nowhere near the standard of the others, perhaps she would have been better 20 years ago

The average Strictly viewer is not on Twitter so it looks to them as if the pros choreograph everything on their own when this isn't the case. At least in previous series they acknowledged the input of the other choreographers on ITT. I agree though that it is simpler for everyone just to imply that the pros are experts in every style of dance and can choreograph fantastic routines on their own every week.

Do the pros really have the final say though? What happens if the producers look at the VTs during the week and decide the dance should be changed?

Didn't they do this to someone last year? I think it was when Iveta came over, possibly because (? )Aliona was injured, can't remember who her celeb was, but they mentioned on ITT that they had to change the routine, so it wasn't properly rehearsed.

And? I still don't think he's very good. That line-up implies he's not won an international competition since he was a youth.

His dancing is rather clumsy, inelegant, messy, a bit frenetic, and he often over-dances. He fatally lacks charisma and stage presence, and is really shown up by Susannah, who has masses. All in all a bit wet & mediocre.

I find watching without the picture better.

He last came 2nd in the British Closed in 2007. I'm just wondering what your credentials are, given Kevin is one of the highest ranked pro dancers in the show. Fine if he's not to your taste but you're talking rubbish!