Six Weeks out of seven Patrick has out danced Ashley but not this week

Ashley upped his game substantially but Patrick danced a dire routine flat footed and mostly walking or catching his partner

Ashley for the first time danced a better routine and out danced Patrick on the night

Patrick shouldn't have been in the bottom 2 anyway.

Should be lucky, lucky Susannah

Can't agree with that. Ashley looked tired in the dance-off, looked laboured on his first couple of lifts and then bailed totally on the last one. I actually preferred his dance (cause I find rumba tedious!) but it looked to me like Patrick improved, toning down the aggression, and Ashley got worse. So the result seemed justifiable, if not the scoring that got them there.

But Len - if his rumba was so terrible with all those heel-leads, then why did you give him a 9 and not mention them the first time around?

Maybe there were no heel leads the first time Patrick danced

Totally agree.


You wouldn't suddenly start doing heel leads in a routine you've been learning all week and which you danced almost perfectly the "evening" before.

Surely Patrick's over simplified routine did not match the extended driven routines of the other competitors

And of course he danced it badly

In fact only an hour or so before !!!!!!!!

Patrick seemed to agree with you - from his clapping after Len's statement.

Quite Especially considering leading with a heel lead is radically different to doing a normal step and usually found in the ballroom and not latin dances.

I don't believe he did. There was virtually no hip action with Ashley's Salsa. The shirt and the lifts were used as a distraction from the lack of hip movement. Even Len mentioned this in 'Len's lens'. In comparison Patrick had good hip movement and flow. I thought the first time around his rumba lacked gentleness and at times looked a bit aggressive but in the dance off he toned this down and got the balance right.
The rumba is always a difficult dance it exposes the flaws and given that I think he coped with it very well and gave a credible performance. Ashley made some mistakes in his dance off, missed a lift, it didn't take it away from being an entertaining dance but IMO it did not reflect he was the better dancer.

LOL !!!!!

Passes my glasses.

There were many heel leads in Patricks first attempt........ Only problem I have is that neither Len or picky Craig chose not to mention them.......!

Simply cannot accept that the Patrick routine was nothing other than an over simplified walk for Patrick

It never reached the stretching of abilities and learning that all other competitors were challenged with a bored look is not passion or "come hither" in performance and the flat footed approach was there in both his performances

More like lucky Sophie! She has been terrible throughout the entire series. She is as stiff as a board and zero chemistry with Brendan.

More like lucky Sophie! She has been terrible throughout the entire series. She is as stiff as a board and zero chemistry with Brendan.

GET SOPHIE OUT!
SUSANNA TO WIN!

I think Patrick was acting the gentleman as always. Also nobody really cares what Len thinks so they could of been sarcastic applause.

Just watched it again and I agree that there were indeed heel leads the first time round, but not in every instance. Len may have decided to overlook it but it may have got worse in the dance off


I totally disagree with you and I say this because of my own experience of dancing in minor competitions and exams. If you are struggling with a technique it is quite possible to get it right first time round and wrong next time or vice versa. In fact it is probably the most frustrating thing about learning to dance. Consistency of performance is really difficult to achieve sometimes, especially under pressure


I don't care what Len thinks but I DO care that someone was saved who had the most fundamental technical flaw that you can have in an International Style Latin dance (except maybe being completely off time which might trump it).

Where were all the Ashley supporters when he needed the votes?

I put 2 votes his way, although I wouldn't have said I was a supporter.

Heel leads are required in AT. I must check and come on in fury if there is a toe lead.

There's no need to be sarcastic. I didn't start the thread. I just have a problem with people saying that it didn't happen and/or it doesn't matter. If I were to describe how hip action works in International Latin then the footwork would be the main driver for getting the right type of movement. Of course people may dance other latin styles differently.

And I really wouldn't mind if you did comment on AT technique, because at least it would be more satisfactory than the vague "Didn't like it", "No chemistry" or "So embarrassing" type of comment people tend to make.