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I'm a Celebrity's Lucy Pargeter questions 'unfair editing' on ITV show
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Cally's mum
09-12-2013
And some of us have been saying all along that the editing of this show has sucked. And been totally biased one way and one way only.

I can't access the report (I'll do that later), but I imagined that if Lucy saw the hatchet job they had been doing on her, she wouldn't be pleased (I certainly wouldn't if I was portrayed one way and one way only by a TV team when there are so many facets to one's character). Not to mention that every campmate who came out spoke about her in glowing terms which was completely at odds with what we had been shown.

I'm only sorry that so many people were duped by this show and that she was misrepresented so badly (and so baldly as well).

It's quite plain that she came over as so one-dimensional that there was something wrong with the so-called editing.

I hope they learn their lesson this time and don't do that again to anyone else.
wonkeydonkey
09-12-2013
Originally Posted by john176bramley:
“The editing in reality shows has always been questionable but to insert a comment Lucy made into a totally different conversation 2 weeks later with the express purpose of making her look bad is surely a new low?”

Yes. I have watched both Big Brother and I'm a Celebrity since series 1 and I am very used to the way things are edited to contrive 'stories': this person has been designated funny, so they get lots of funny action, this person has been designated quiet, so they don't get any, etc. But to take a comment, cut it from its context and drop it into a completely different context over a week later purely in order to make someone look like a bitch is a very big step up from that. It is pure, unmitigated deception, in order to smear one of the contestants, and completely indefensible.

I am not one for scurrying off to Ofcom and demanding that they make everything all right, but if I was Lucy that is EXACTLY what I would be doing now. If rtv shows are allowed to edit together random remarks to make an artificial conversation that never happened, there seems no limit to how malicious they can be.

Shame on the producers for their spiteful manipulation in this case; apparently they judged that Lucy would be thrown to the wolves in order to create a bit of drama; how they convinced themselves that that was morally justifiable is anyone's guess.
xeo
09-12-2013
I'm surprised they edited her badly considering she works in Emmerdale (another ITV Studios production).
Steph_Cuckow
09-12-2013
Originally Posted by xeo:
“I'm surprised they edited her badly considering she works in Emmerdale (another ITV Studios production).”

I was going to say the same i find it baffling that they would do that to someone in effect they pay. It is very strange and do not understand it at all.
lexi22
09-12-2013
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“Yes. I have watched both Big Brother and I'm a Celebrity since series 1 and I am very used to the way things are edited to contrive 'stories': this person has been designated funny, so they get lots of funny action, this person has been designated quiet, so they don't get any, etc. But to take a comment, cut it from its context and drop it into a completely different context over a week later purely in order to make someone look like a bitch is a very big step up from that. It is pure, unmitigated deception, in order to smear one of the contestants, and completely indefensible.

I am not one for scurrying off to Ofcom and demanding that they make everything all right, but if I was Lucy that is EXACTLY what I would be doing now. If rtv shows are allowed to edit together random remarks to make an artificial conversation that never happened, there seems no limit to how malicious they can be.

Shame on the producers for their spiteful manipulation in this case; apparently they judged that Lucy would be thrown to the wolves in order to create a bit of drama; how they convinced themselves that that was morally justifiable is anyone's guess.”

What I find particularly disturbing about this is that they will have known

(a) how big a part social media plays in RTV shows like this, and
(b) how out of control and irrational a lot of that social media is when it comes to 'heroes' and 'villians', and how malicious and abusive it can get.

In effect, they ignited the hate campaign against her and opened her up to the online abuse she's had, all for the sake of a storyline.
lotty27
09-12-2013
Could it be that ITV have done this to 'one of their own' because they assume she'll not kick up a fuss as she'll be worried she'll lose her job if she does? (not that they (ITV) would ever be so obvious as to sack her now but soap characters can be written out can't they ...)

If so that's a MASSIVE abuse of power IMO
anne_666
09-12-2013
Originally Posted by lotty27:
“Could it be that ITV have done this to 'one of their own' because they assume she'll not kick up a fuss as she'll be worried she'll lose her job if she does? (not that they (ITV) would ever be so obvious as to sack her now but soap characters can be written out can't they ...)

If so that's a MASSIVE abuse of power IMO ”

That's more or less what I've said all along. She's tied to ITV by her job. I didn't realise that campmates sign up to be silenced about complaining afterwards. It is all far more clear now. ITV knew they could get away with this. How many came out and said they didn't understand the way Lucy was being portrayed and she held the camp together etc etc . This is vicious reputation wrecking stuff.
imrightok
09-12-2013
I think that's disgraceful if true,to make it look like Lucy was bitching about Amy, rather than bitching about the other camp.



One thing is for sure is that she likes to bitch.
Betty Britain
09-12-2013
Originally Posted by imrightok:
“I think that's disgraceful if true,to make it look like Lucy was bitching about Amy, rather than bitching about the other camp.



One thing is for sure is that she likes to bitch.”

Pot /kettle
Betty Britain
09-12-2013
Has anyone seen the film The Trueman Show ? That was a man who was living a RT life but didn't know... Makes you wonder
yellowlabbie
09-12-2013
Originally Posted by lotty27:
“Could it be that ITV have done this to 'one of their own' because they assume she'll not kick up a fuss as she'll be worried she'll lose her job if she does? (not that they (ITV) would ever be so obvious as to sack her now but soap characters can be written out can't they ...)

If so that's a MASSIVE abuse of power IMO ”

Yes, as you say, a massive abuse of power.
Daisy19
09-12-2013
Originally Posted by star89:
“No. Lucy said the conversation of them welcoming back the camp saviours was edited. When Amy said it was their last night all together, Lucy was shown saying they were happy without you here. Lucy claims she said that when the two camps merged at the beginning and not in the conversation in which the show showed her saying it.”

I remember Lucy saying that so i'm surprised they used a piece that the public have seen as it makes it obvious they are editing it (as if we didn't know )
I couldn't tell you when she said it (not read the whole thread so somebody has probably already said) but if my memory serves me correctly i believe she said it when Amy wasn't there, so possibly when Amy was a camp saviour,,,,i'm pretty sure she didn't say it when the camps merged but correct me if i'm wrong.
lordo350
09-12-2013
It's practically defamatory what they've done here. I never thought Lucy was bullying Amy, as everytime they had a go at her it seemed that it was mainly due to something Amy had done. That was, apart from this comment. I thought it was very bitchy and unnecessary and wasn't helping Lucy look very nice. So, to find out it was deliberately edited to make her look that way is very maddening. It was like, just in case you have any doubt Lucy is a bitch... here you go!

It just proves to me this was so manufactured to make Lucy look like the wicked witch of the well. It's really made me go off I'm a Celeb in all honesty. It doesn't need this crap to make people watch. It's had 12 series before it, and people keep on coming back every year. It's nasty and rotten, to be honest, and it suggests to me Celeb is no better than Big Brother. Really questioning whether I'll watch it next year now.
hopwoodl
09-12-2013
I think it's shameful too. Yes they agree to go into the jungle but surely not to a character assassination which is due to editing that just seems like cheating to me.

I also think producers have shot themselves in the foot. What celeb in their right mind would risk going into the jungle next year???
imrightok
09-12-2013
Lucy said on at least a couple of occasions that she felt that she may come across as bitchy.

Well Lucy, you did.
wonkeydonkey
09-12-2013
Originally Posted by imrightok:
“Lucy said on at least a couple of occasions that she felt that she may come across as bitchy.

Well Lucy, you did.”

There is a difference between 'coming across as bitchy' and having two unrelated comments spliced together to make you sound much more bitchy. I do find that quite astonishing.
imrightok
09-12-2013
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“There is a difference between 'coming across as bitchy' and having two unrelated comments spliced together to make you sound much more bitchy. I do find that quite astonishing.”

Well then you're easily astonished aren't you.

She knew she bitched and was bitchy,and so did everyone else watching . Why would she think that she may come across as bitchy? Possibly because she was 'hard working' or 'the life and soul of the party' ,or maybe because 'she made everybody laugh? Or maybe,just maybe,because she was a bitchy CM.
jtnorth
09-12-2013
Well, I think it's terrible. Certainly I thought that exact moment, when we were led to think Lucy said to Amy that they'd been happier if she hadn't come back, was the nastiest and most unnecessary thing Lucy was shown to do, and was one of the main reasons I wouldn't have voted for her and would have thought less of her, and if that didn't happen then they took me in completely.
Stupid_Head
09-12-2013
Not surprised really, it's reality TV - more manipulated than soaps themselves.

I just hope it doesn't put off potential contestants next year and we'll be stuck with TOWIE/Chelsea/Geordie Shore people who are used to the scripted stuff.
johartuk
09-12-2013
Originally Posted by Betty Britain:
“Amy WAS selfish ... She wouldn't give her contraband up, she thought she deserved extra food because she did a trial and she slept rather than work... Every camp member said the same thing about her.. That's a fact”

The point is, if Lucy is a victim of editing, the same can apply to Amy and everyone else. They don't just pick up one one person to selectively edit.
Betty Britain
09-12-2013
Originally Posted by johartuk:
“The point is, if Lucy is a victim of editing, the same can apply to Amy and everyone else. They don't just pick up one one person to selectively edit.”

The point is ...the edited Lucy to look nasty ...and it worked...look at the posts that have been done on here calling her all sorts of names because of that edit... Where have I said only Lucy recieved a selective edit. The fact we didn't see the fashion show,the campmates having a laugh around the fire ,Matthew and Lucy where both hilarious according to most of the others , but all we got to see was this made up hatred towards Amy
Luke_Mills
09-12-2013
Everyone is quick to blame 'unfair editing', its becoming a popular excuse nowadays. It doesn't excuse her awful attitude towards Amy, regardless of whether Amy did enough around camp or not.
sheila blige
09-12-2013
Originally Posted by KittyKream:
“They showed Amy to be selfish also and no one is complaining she had an 'unfair edit' ”

Only toward the end when it was glaringly obvious that she was a tad selfish!

About that clause though that they can't criticise the show - they've all started criticising it haven't they? Can't wait to see Matthew on TWS on Wednesday!
wonkeydonkey
09-12-2013
Originally Posted by johartuk:
“The point is, if Lucy is a victim of editing, the same can apply to Amy and everyone else. They don't just pick up one one person to selectively edit.”

Of course they are all edited. This is not a commonplace matter of focusing in one aspect of someone's behaviour though, to creat a story. It is a story about taking a sentence from over a week previously and dropping it into a show to consciously make it look as if one campmate was being spiteful to another.
sheila blige
09-12-2013
Originally Posted by imrightok:
“Well then you're easily astonished aren't you.

She knew she bitched and was bitchy,and so did everyone else watching . Why would she think that she may come across as bitchy? Possibly because she was 'hard working' or 'the life and soul of the party' ,or maybe because 'she made everybody laugh? Or maybe,just maybe,because she was a bitchy CM.”

I'm sure it was you who said that 'editing can't put words in people's mouths' - well in this case it apparently did!
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