I'm sorry but I would understand if she had never watched the show before but she must have known it would of been edited.
I'm a Celebrity's Lucy Pargeter questions 'unfair editing' on ITV show
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Originally Posted by sheila blige:
“I'm sure it was you who said that 'editing can't put words in people's mouths' - well in this case it apparently did!”
“I'm sure it was you who said that 'editing can't put words in people's mouths' - well in this case it apparently did!”
The way I see it,is she was being sniddy and bitchy to someone. To me it doesn't matter who she was being nasty to. And yes,the edits didn't put those words into her mouth.
Actually this is worse than anything Big Brother has done. Why can't they just give a fair edit and let the public make up their own minds? Stop messing about the edit.
I hope Lucy makes a complaint to OFCOM about it. Looking at the details of it, its outrageous really. Its basically saying they can make up conversations if they want and not actually show REAL conversations or anyone saying something.
Originally Posted by avaconrad:
“I'm sorry but I would understand if she had never watched the show before but she must have known it would of been edited.”
“I'm sorry but I would understand if she had never watched the show before but she must have known it would of been edited.”
So are you suggesting she never speak so they can't take her words from Tuesday and drop them into next Friday's show??
Of course she should know it's edited but to suggest she shouldn't be a tad annoyed at that is really just silly.
Originally Posted by imrightok:
“The way I see it,is she was being sniddy and bitchy to someone. To me it doesn't matter who she was being nasty to. And yes,the edits didn't put those words into her mouth.”
“The way I see it,is she was being sniddy and bitchy to someone. To me it doesn't matter who she was being nasty to. And yes,the edits didn't put those words into her mouth.”
Except she wasn't being snidey or bitchy she was making a flippant joke.
Originally Posted by BMLisa:
“So are you suggesting she never speak so they can't take her words from Tuesday and drop them into next Friday's show??
Of course she should know it's edited but to suggest she shouldn't be a tad annoyed at that is really just silly.”
“So are you suggesting she never speak so they can't take her words from Tuesday and drop them into next Friday's show??
Of course she should know it's edited but to suggest she shouldn't be a tad annoyed at that is really just silly.”
Well if she's that annoyed she should quit ED and then sue ITV.
Originally Posted by avaconrad:
“I'm sorry but I would understand if she had never watched the show before but she must have known it would of been edited.”
“I'm sorry but I would understand if she had never watched the show before but she must have known it would of been edited.”
She'll have known it would be edited otherwise we'd have been watching it 24/7.
What Lucy is objecting to is the fact that they took a comment she made and compiled it with a totally different scenario. So it wasn't truthful.
Originally Posted by Lesb:
“wonder if this is true
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/i...stions-2906756”
“wonder if this is true
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/i...stions-2906756”
If that's her best example, her case must be very weak. She even seems to accept that she said it about Amy.
In any case, most of the things that made her look bad would not look any better in any context that is at all plausible.
Originally Posted by BMLisa:
“Except she wasn't being snidey or bitchy she was making a flippant joke.”
“Except she wasn't being snidey or bitchy she was making a flippant joke.”
So why is she complaining if it was only a"joke"?it wouldn't matter if it was aimed at Amy or the other camp, if it was only a"Joke".
But it would appear to some, that whatever sniddy or nasty comment Lucy makes," she was only joking"
Taking something said 2 weeks ago and then put it into a conversation 2 weeks late and make it look like she was having a go at her.
Originally Posted by imrightok:
“The way I see it,is she was being sniddy and bitchy to someone. To me it doesn't matter who she was being nasty to. And yes,the edits didn't put those words into her mouth.”
“The way I see it,is she was being sniddy and bitchy to someone. To me it doesn't matter who she was being nasty to. And yes,the edits didn't put those words into her mouth.”
She wasn't being nasty. When taken at the right time, in the right context - her words were quite hilarious!
You must be of a very delicate disposition and would be driven to despair if someone criticised your curtains!
Originally Posted by Sun Tzu.:
“Taking something said 2 weeks ago and then put it into a conversation 2 weeks late and make it look like she was having a go at her.”
“Taking something said 2 weeks ago and then put it into a conversation 2 weeks late and make it look like she was having a go at her.”
if she didn't make the remark in the first place, they'd have no footage of her saying anything like that.
I can't believe that some people cannot see the difference between acceptable editing and splicing in a cut from a two week old conversation to make a completely different meaning..... I hope that they are never called for Jury Service!!
Originally Posted by Sun Tzu.:
“Taking something said 2 weeks ago and then put it into a conversation 2 weeks late and make it look like she was having a go at her.”
“Taking something said 2 weeks ago and then put it into a conversation 2 weeks late and make it look like she was having a go at her.”
It is so wrong and anyone who says it isn't needs to take a long hard look at themselves.
Originally Posted by Luke_Mills:
“Everyone is quick to blame 'unfair editing', its becoming a popular excuse nowadays. It doesn't excuse her awful attitude towards Amy, regardless of whether Amy did enough around camp or not.”
“Everyone is quick to blame 'unfair editing', its becoming a popular excuse nowadays. It doesn't excuse her awful attitude towards Amy, regardless of whether Amy did enough around camp or not.”
I don't see that she had an 'awful attitude', everyone bitches about the selfish slacker in the group, especially if they don't contribute any fun or humour to the place either.
A few pointed comments, and a bit of bitching is hardly some huge 'hate campaign'.
And Amy was irritating as hell, begging for food, lying and spending her time posing for the camera.
Even DAVID had a few bitches about her once he realised what she was like.
Originally Posted by imrightok:
“if she didn't make the remark in the first place, they'd have no footage of her saying anything like that.”
“if she didn't make the remark in the first place, they'd have no footage of her saying anything like that.”
I could cut out bits of your posts and make them say. AMY IS A lYING IDIOT, an' all.
That would be a bit unfair though, wouldn't it?
Originally Posted by imrightok:
“if she didn't make the remark in the first place, they'd have no footage of her saying anything like that.”
“if she didn't make the remark in the first place, they'd have no footage of her saying anything like that.”
What an absolutely RIDICULOUS thing to say! Totally laughable. If you took that statement to its logical conclusion the series would have to be done in silence as anything - even the most innocent of remarks - when taken out of context can seem like a threat!
Originally Posted by imrightok:
“if she didn't make the remark in the first place, they'd have no footage of her saying anything like that.”
“if she didn't make the remark in the first place, they'd have no footage of her saying anything like that.”
What a ridiculously stupid flawed thing to say.
Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“And Amy was irritating as hell, begging for food, lying and spending her time posing for the camera.”
“And Amy was irritating as hell, begging for food, lying and spending her time posing for the camera.”
I didn't find her irritating but when was she begging for food?
Originally Posted by Daisy19:
“I didn't find her irritating but when was she begging for food?”
“I didn't find her irritating but when was she begging for food?”
It was shown in the last program she was in, and it was commented on by Alfonso, and by Kian and David. Who all found it very selfish and annoying apparantly.
I wonder if Lucy will take things further with this editing. If she can, then I wouldn't blame her. Good luck to her. I wish her well.
Originally Posted by Sun Tzu.:
“Actually this is worse than anything Big Brother has done. Why can't they just give a fair edit and let the public make up their own minds? Stop messing about the edit.”
“Actually this is worse than anything Big Brother has done. Why can't they just give a fair edit and let the public make up their own minds? Stop messing about the edit.”
I agree. I have seen those shows before and the editing doesn't even seem to be as bad as the 'I'm a Celeb' show this year.
Originally Posted by sheila blige:
“What an absolutely RIDICULOUS thing to say! Totally laughable. If you took that statement to its logical conclusion the series would have to be done in silence as anything - even the most innocent of remarks - when taken out of context can seem like a threat!”
“What an absolutely RIDICULOUS thing to say! Totally laughable. If you took that statement to its logical conclusion the series would have to be done in silence as anything - even the most innocent of remarks - when taken out of context can seem like a threat!”
Originally Posted by Sun Tzu.:
“What a ridiculously stupid flawed thing to say.”
“What a ridiculously stupid flawed thing to say.”
You two obviously don't get what I'm saying. So let me try to explain in a v-e-r-y s-i-m-p-l-e w-a-y.
She hasn't denied saying what was shown,so she did say it about someone. Does it make her comment any more acceptable that she didn't say it about Amy, but said it about four or five people she didn't even know?
Originally Posted by imrightok:
“You two obviously don't get what I'm saying. So let me try to explain in a v-e-r-y s-i-m-p-l-e w-a-y.
She hasn't denied saying what was shown,so she did say it about someone. Does it make her comment any more acceptable that she didn't say it about Amy, but said it about four or five people she didn't even know?”
“You two obviously don't get what I'm saying. So let me try to explain in a v-e-r-y s-i-m-p-l-e w-a-y.
She hasn't denied saying what was shown,so she did say it about someone. Does it make her comment any more acceptable that she didn't say it about Amy, but said it about four or five people she didn't even know?”
Because when she said it she was joking.
And it was cut with another shot, to be seen as 'bitchy'.
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