I wonder if this is simple enough?

Well I remember when a few of them won a treat, I think it was the jungle bar, there were a few of them saying how good it was that they had gone. They didn't seem to be joking to me.

And I honestly wouldn't expect her to say it was serious.

Yes, and that argument has been advanced SO many times over the years. "Well if she didn't say it they wouldn't be able to show it, ha ha!" But here she is with a cut and splice making her say something quite different from what she did say!

I am 100% sure that imrightok would not be trying to push this absurd argument if it was not about Lucy.

Why in the world would she give up her job because she has an unrelated complaint? Do you feel obliged to resign from yours every time you take a stale cake back to the cake counter?

How do you work that out?
"Lucy actually made the remark two weeks ago as a joke when the camps, Croc Creek and Snake Rock, were merged". No mention of Amy at all.



I'm not sure there actually is a word 'sniddy'. It sounds nice and expressive though.


Of for heavens sake. How annoying you are being. Does it make it more acceptable that she made a very small joke when the two camps joined and they cut and dropped it so it looked as if she was having a go at Amy over a week later? Yes, it does.

Here are two Bible passages for you to embroider on a sampler and put over your bed.



Shocking, eh? He sounds a proper bitch.

'I know,if I say every bitchy Comment is a joke,then people will excuse it'. okay.


I'm not really sure why you quoted two different people from the Bible, who lived thousands of years apart. What's your point?

Wow that's pretty awful. I don't even think Big Brother has stooped that low with their editing.

I don't understand why people are trying to defend the editing, context is everything. When Lucy originally said that comment, she was just joking. To splice it in two weeks later to make her look worse is just wrong.

It seems strange to me that this debate is being had with someone who's user name can be rewritten in proper grammar as "I'm right, OK?" Or maybe it represents your name: Imrigh Tok? Let's assume it's the former. You're either very arrogant (implying that you are always right), or you have a sense of humour (pretending this is what you think). Let's assume its the latter. If you understand humour, why do you not get that Lucy's comment could originally have been said in such circumstances?

One could easily take offence conversing with someone who declares with every post "I'm right". If we thought you truly believed that, it would be a waste of everyone's time trying to make any counter arguments with you. Instead we read "I'm right OK" as a comment that shouldn't be taken to literally.

Now if you're saying Lucy cannot make a light remark that shouldn't be taken seriously, perhaps we should assume that you are always literal, and DO think you are always right, and therefore perhaps we should all ignore you from now on?

But she was lazy!

Obviously she said it duh .... But not at the time it was shown and not in the context It was shown ... Why is it so hard for you to understand something so simple ... Stop for a minute from bashing Lucy and see the bigger picture

Because she was trying to make a point that one thing when taken out of context and put with something else can seem horrendous.

However, those two quotes are not to be taken together as they ARE NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER AND WERE SAID AT DIFFERENT TIMES IN THE BIBLE. JUST LIKE LUCY'S QUOTE WAS TAKEN FROM A DIFFERENT TIME IN THE JUNGLE (AND WAS ACTUALLY MEANT AS A JOKE).


And yes, I am quite well aware that I'm yelling, but it seems to be the only way to get it through your head.

Although I believe you know exactly what it meant and are just doing this for argument's sake now because you can't back down.

It's really not worth debating with someone so utterly determined to see the worst in someone even though it has all proven to be lies and manipulation.

Let me ask, do you really think Amy was so innocent in this, given that even David and Kian - the two nicest people in camp have come out and said how 'disappointed they are' etc?

If you really are a fan of someone who moans that the food isn't good enough (when everyone else cooks it for her), then proceeds to demand more of said food even though everyone in there was very hungry - as hungry as she was; who allowed Lucy to think Al had said something awful about her (she didn't lie outright but she lied by omission which is just as bad), who came out and attacked all the women - including Becca who tried to help her - then there's really nothing more to say.

But if so, then I am sorry for you.


'Deliberately obstreperous' comes to mind.

Great post

Well not really as Lucy did say it and it was a bitchy thing to say. No matter what the context or when she said it, it was bitchy. She was consistently bitchy to Amy and had real problem with her.Before any of the contraband etc Lucy had her knife in Amy as had Rebecca, why because she made them feel inadequate and plain. Rebecca admitted it.Insecure and pathetic.

Amy may have been idle and selfish,a lot of young people are. I am sure she is not perfect no more then the rest of us but she was never bitchy.Lucy just seemed to go around with this screwed up bitter little face bitching, why not speak to Amy is a civil manner.Why not be assertive rather than spiteful and back biting.Be honest and drop the nasty digs.

Why should only Lucy get the get out clause, of bad editing, they are all suffer from the editing knife not just Lucy.Why should Lucy be misrepresented and not Amy.Why is she a special case Ohh Lucy was scuppered but the rest were not..I dont think so.
I dont care what the others said, maybe the gossipy bitching of Lucy influenced them.She seemed determined to isolate and attack Amy. jealous old harridan IMo and she is much older than Amy and should have known better.
That she sat there with her fake boobs slating Amy for using her looks to work etc, when she did the same herself, even to the extent of surgery, says it all for me.

You can't rule out context. Context is vitally important. I can't believe you think context is not important when it very much is. It determines a lot, the nature of what is said and how it is said.

She still said it to her and knew it would hurt.I think the editing team caught her personality very well. Competitive, bitchy and jealous.

And Lucy was imo bitchy but the programme is over now so all's well that ends well

I couldn't disagree more with this entire post.Did you listen to ANYTHING the other campmates said whilst in there or when they left? Are they all wrong too? Take it up with them , put them right, as you clearly know better from your viewing point.How arrogant!

and you call Lucy a 'jealous OLD harridan', oh dear.

Lucy had a job in Emmerdale when she had her boob job so didn't do it to get work Doh .....
And you comments re Lucy are so much worse than anything Lucy said to Amy ... Infact I never heard Lucy call amy anything other than lazy ... Unless you heard different of course

Well she might not be old but she looks old

Also she ACTED like a harridan.

They are merely stating the facts in a very articulate well reasoned post.

She really didn't.

She really did.

The hyprocrisy of some of her statements are so blatant you wish for her sake she is being ironic.

Sadly she isn't

You could take a strand of dialogue from any of them in there (including Amy even) - put it in the wrong context and it can be read whatever way the editor wants you to read it.

Even the delightfully charming David could seem like Queen Bitch if put out of context.

I totally disagree and was merely responding to that post. How many people who had to live with her can be wrong?

Well there are some people who may read what you've just said and come to the conclusion that you yourself are a very bitchy person - but I'm sure you're not.

All I can say again is , do the other campmates agree? No.
IMO she looks her age not that it matters a damn. That was a bitchy comment from you. What has how old anyone look got to do with anything?