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Old 09-12-2013, 17:08
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Am glad they have touched ont he obvious flirtation/chemistry they have had since Day 1 without making it disgusting or an ongoing affair etc. What are your thoughts on this?
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Old 09-12-2013, 17:13
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Very interesting, I always thought they had this weird chemistry thing from early on.

What i'm wondering is Dodger and Patrick never had a DNA test to see if he actually was his son. So they might not be related at all...
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Old 09-12-2013, 17:14
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She might as well go full on crazy and have an affair with him. They've always had great chemistry. Far more than he's had with any of his lovers.
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Old 09-12-2013, 17:19
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I always thought Sienna acted more like a jealous ex than a sister. I wonder what Dodger will do next.
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Old 09-12-2013, 17:25
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Urgh, disgusting storyline. It seems like Bryan Kirkwood is going for out there storylines. I am not comfortable and happy at all about this storyline. It is shameful.

I think the male rape storyline, is actually a good and important issue, but this is just ridiculous, disgusting and over the top. The prostitute storyline with Sinead, has been excellent, important and real. However, this incest storyline, is just too over the top.
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Old 09-12-2013, 17:37
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However, this incest storyline, is just too over the top.
Compared to 7 deaths in one week?
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Old 09-12-2013, 18:10
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I think most of us on here thought they had a weird relationship, there was a scene where he didn't have a top on and she was touching his chest.
From the pic it looks like Dodger kissing her as well.
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Old 09-12-2013, 18:20
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Very interesting, I always thought they had this weird chemistry thing from early on.

What i'm wondering is Dodger and Patrick never had a DNA test to see if he actually was his son. So they might not be related at all...
Dodger and Sienna are twins though
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Old 09-12-2013, 18:23
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I knew she had wierd feelings for Dodger though, remember how she hated Texas? who knows if Texas hadn't been Killed it could have been her Sienna set out to destroy??
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Old 09-12-2013, 18:24
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I think most of us on here thought they had a weird relationship, there was a scene where he didn't have a top on and she was touching his chest.
From the pic it looks like Dodger kissing her as well.
Yep, it does't look like he is pushing her away.
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Old 09-12-2013, 20:23
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Dodger and Sienna are twins though
Yes, but Dodger might not be the twin. As I said they never had a DNA test, so Dodger could just be some random, unrelated person...

Or he could be the twin, who knows, only a DNA test will tell (seriously, your 'son' finds you and you don't question it for one second, but then this is typical Hollyoaks)
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Old 09-12-2013, 21:10
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GSA - Genetic Sexual Attraction.

Although it would have been easier to believe had it been tackled from the off-set, once Sienna and Mark had met.

I know the article doesn't imply, ANYWHERE, that the 'misunderstood' kiss will go further, but as stated by others previously, there has always seemed to be somewhat of an attraction between Sienna and Mark.

I'm hoping it is not going to go down this road.... but... with HO, you never know!

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Old 09-12-2013, 21:49
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I think the attraction is stronger from Sienna. I really don't think Dodger would pursue a relationship with Sienna especially after the whole fake baby storyline.
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Old 09-12-2013, 21:53
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Did Kirkwood oversee the awful Rhys and Beth incest story?
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Old 09-12-2013, 22:07
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Yes, but Dodger might not be the twin. As I said they never had a DNA test, so Dodger could just be some random, unrelated person...
Unlikely. Dodger was born Mark Blake, as was Sienna's twin, so unless Anna had two sons called Mark Blake born on the same day as daughter Sienna, Dodger is definitely Patrick's. Unless she had an affair and neither Dodger nor Sienna is Patrick's...

I hope Dodger does not respond to the pass by Sienna. I would definitely find that unbelievable, as I believe the strange chemistry between them is completely one-sided by Sienna.

There is more to the story about her baby Sophie though. I can see her being the product of sexual abuse by Patrick (notice how Sienna has not mentioned the father, which would be particularly significant considering she was only 13 when she had her daughter).

I also have an inkling that Sophie is still alive, which Patrick has kept hidden from Sienna. I sense a very Archie Mitchell (EastEnders) style storyline with this: long-lost kids, errant mothers, secret pregnancies, child abduction, and incest.
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Old 09-12-2013, 22:09
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Be a shame if they went down the sexual abuse by the parent route when they only did it early this year but oh well *rolleyes*

Did Kirkwood oversee the awful Rhys and Beth incest story?
Yes. That was only awful due to the actress playing Beth. The story itself, I thought was good.

ETA: Thing is with Dodger and Sienna, even though he's not in the crazy place she is, they were both attracted to each other when they first met.
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Old 09-12-2013, 22:13
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This has to be leading up to a big reveal. I always sensed that Dodger is not related to these two. And I think its more or less confirmed that Patrick is the father of Sienna's dead baby (who might not even be dead afterall)

I was really hoping Hollyoaks wouldn't go down this route with Sienna and the big secret was something not obvious like incest or sexual abuse.

I have a theory that the real Sienna is dead and the Sienna we have now was a replacement that Patrick brought in and abused for years. Remember how Anna didn't recognise Sienna? That would explain everything. Sienna may have been adopted by Patrick and in that box of his contains information about the real Sienna and the dead baby.
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Old 09-12-2013, 22:15
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How amusing, my other half said to me that they would go down the incest route with these two after only watching a couple of scenes with them, I said "nooooo, don't be daft!"
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Old 09-12-2013, 22:16
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This has to be leading up to a big reveal. I always sensed that Dodger is not related to these two. And I think its more or less confirmed that Patrick is the father of Sienna's dead baby (who might not even be dead afterall)

I was really hoping Hollyoaks wouldn't go down this route with Sienna and the big secret was something not obvious like incest or sexual abuse.

I have a theory that the real Sienna is dead and the Sienna we have now was a replacement that Patrick brought in and abused for years. Remember how Anna didn't recognise Sienna? That would explain everything. Sienna may have been adopted by Patrick and in that box of his contains information about the real Sienna and the dead baby.
BIB - really interesting theory! I'd quite like that storyline if it transpired
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Old 09-12-2013, 22:21
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Sounds like that storyline on Desperate Housewives when a girl was adopted to replace the girl who died in an accident.
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Old 09-12-2013, 22:30
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I always thought they had this weird chemistry but before the writers said it was because Sienna doesn't know how to have relationships with people, and it seemed like they weren't going to go down this route. But maybe they have only done it cause loads of people spoke about it?

Either way this adds way more layers to Sienna and looks like they can keep her on to develop her. Patrick has really damaged her hasn't he! Makes you wonder what kind of mother would leave one of her children with a man like that! I know she wasn't in the right state of mind but she still took Doger but left Sienna!
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Old 10-12-2013, 11:04
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I hope Sienna's child is alive and they get reunited. I really want her to stay, and they can redeem her in so many ways. But I do see a Josef Fritzal storyline on the horizon with Patrick and Sienna.
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Old 10-12-2013, 11:37
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so many people in this thread saying dodger and sienna likely not related and patrick isnt the father of dodger but they are twins remember not just siblings so they are defoes related. i dont agree with this storyline personally we have already gone down this route a reason i dont like brian kirkwood, his storylines are all repeated and predictable, tbh i have always known this storyline would happen at some point hence my point about being so predictable.
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Old 10-12-2013, 12:51
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Urgh, it's cheap and tacky but I kinda want it to happen! But I don't think it will. Dodger is quite sane and will recoil in horror at Sienna's advances, as any normal person would. Shame really. They're both so beautiful and have chemistry, but twincest is probably a step too far.
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Old 10-12-2013, 13:26
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Can't help who you fall in love with, right?
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