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Old 10-12-2013, 12:49
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"Rough Copy — Kazeem Ajobe, Sterling Ramsey and Joey James — have also told of their fears for the final featuring three solo singers.

Kazeem said: “We kind of agree — it is going to be boring.

“Next week people will be like, ‘Where are Rough Copy?’ It’ll feel weird."




Taken from a national paper today. These guys honestly think they should be in the final and are the only ones who can liven it up.

Get over yourselves RC, the British public have.
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Old 10-12-2013, 12:59
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So pleased theyre out and reading what theyve just said makes me hate them even more
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Old 10-12-2013, 13:08
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They're right though. Sam and Nick are fine singers, but they hardly set the world on fire. For a fun, upbeat final it should have been RC, Luke and one other; I'd go for Sam.


And I still do not get why people are so utterly contemptuous of confidence; especially in a performer. Personally, I like confident people. Shy, retiring people are hard work and rarely worth the effort.
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Old 10-12-2013, 13:25
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I like to see confidence as well but I also like to see something that warrants that confidence! The fact is that Ropy Cough did not live up to their own expectations. There are many people in all walks of life that talk a good game!
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Old 10-12-2013, 13:40
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They're right though. Sam and Nick are fine singers, but they hardly set the world on fire. For a fun, upbeat final it should have been RC, Luke and one other; I'd go for Sam.


And I still do not get why people are so utterly contemptuous of confidence; especially in a performer. Personally, I like confident people. Shy, retiring people are hard work and rarely worth the effort.
Well, we're all different, I guess. I tend to like shy retiring people. I find it usually is worth making the effort to get to know them. To me, overconfidence is one of the most offputting characteristics of all. Modesty is a quality that I value.
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Old 10-12-2013, 13:41
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Tom Jones, confidence by the truck load but gets on with what he does and does not feel the need to keep reminding people.

Robbie Williams, confidence by the truck load but looking as smug as anyone can get and plainly not caring who knows.

(Insert name of any rap star), confidence by the truck load but constantly feeling the need to keep reminding people, at all possible opportunities, of just how damn good they are.

For me, RC fall somewhere between Robbie and the rap star. Confidence is not something that should be thrust into other peoples faces.
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Old 10-12-2013, 13:54
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Confidence is fine, but for a group who need a sat nav to find a tune and cannot sing a single note in harmony, its somewhat misplaced in this instance.

Nicholas is a bit dull, so is sam, but they usually manage to be in the realms of tuneful.

I'd suggest anyway that although hes been a bit ropey vocally at times during this competition, Lukes the only one that stands out as something a bit different.

Rough copy talked the talk for that, but never walked the walk. Karaoke boyz2men isnt exciting. The opposite in fact.
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Old 10-12-2013, 14:42
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I think Rough Copy were a bit of a flop and never met the expectations people had. I think they got to the final 4 based mainly on potential.
They had a few stand-out performances but I think Sam, Luke and Nicholas have all been stronger overall and more consistent.
I haven't liked Nicholas much at all for the past 3 weeks but at least before then he was reliably consistent.
So I don't think they can claim to be hard done by at all. The only edge they had over the remaining final 4 was their potential to sell records but they let themselves down with way too many shambolic, unmemorable performances.
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Old 10-12-2013, 14:51
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They're right though. Sam and Nick are fine singers, but they hardly set the world on fire. For a fun, upbeat final it should have been RC, Luke and one other; I'd go for Sam.


And I still do not get why people are so utterly contemptuous of confidence; especially in a performer. Personally, I like confident people. Shy, retiring people are hard work and rarely worth the effort.
Nobody is being "utterly contemptuous of confidence", people are taking issue with outright arrogance, which is what this is.

And saying shy people are "rarely worth the effort" is very harsh. Many people have their reasons for being shy. Maybe if you have a problem with people being "contemptuous of confidence", it would be nice if you didn't have that same attitude towards shyness.
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Old 10-12-2013, 14:52
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Well, we're all different, I guess. I tend to like shy retiring people. I find it usually is worth making the effort to get to know them. To me, overconfidence is one of the most offputting characteristics of all. Modesty is a quality that I value.
I work on the assumption that we're all equally interesting, but some people are open and easy to talk to and others make you feel like you're acting like a murderer in daring to say "hello". So, same reward, but wildly varying effort - I'll go with the low lying fruit.

And I didn't say "overconfidence", but there such a thing as perfectly appropriate confidence. Of course, it would explain why so many people find me disagreeable.
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Old 10-12-2013, 15:18
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This is cocky.

Only Kanye would say something like this.
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Old 10-12-2013, 15:22
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They're right though. Sam and Nick are fine singers, but they hardly set the world on fire. For a fun, upbeat final it should have been RC, Luke and one other; I'd go for Sam.


And I still do not get why people are so utterly contemptuous of confidence; especially in a performer. Personally, I like confident people. Shy, retiring people are hard work and rarely worth the effort.
I agree with this
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Old 10-12-2013, 15:28
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"Rough Copy — Kazeem Ajobe, Sterling Ramsey and Joey James — have also told of their fears for the final featuring three solo singers.

Kazeem said: “We kind of agree — it is going to be boring.

“Next week people will be like, ‘Where are Rough Copy?’ It’ll feel weird."




Taken from a national paper today. These guys honestly think they should be in the final and are the only ones who can liven it up.

Get over yourselves RC, the British public have.




Where is the link??? No body posts things like this accusing others of overconfidence without proof.
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Old 10-12-2013, 15:30
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This is cocky.

Only Kanye would say something like this.
No proof.Where is the link??
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Old 10-12-2013, 15:34
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Well, we're all different, I guess. I tend to like shy retiring people. I find it usually is worth making the effort to get to know them. To me, overconfidence is one of the most offputting characteristics of all. Modesty is a quality that I value.
Damn if you dont,damn if you do.A performer needs to be confident and a street/urban act cant be shy. Where do you place Rock n Roll singers?
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Old 10-12-2013, 15:39
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I think Rough Copy were a bit of a flop and never met the expectations people had. I think they got to the final 4 based mainly on potential.
They had a few stand-out performances but I think Sam, Luke and Nicholas have all been stronger overall and more consistent.
I haven't liked Nicholas much at all for the past 3 weeks but at least before then he was reliably consistent.
So I don't think they can claim to be hard done by at all. The only edge they had over the remaining final 4 was their potential to sell records
but they let themselves down with way too many shambolic, unmemorable performances.
They will still sell records over all the finalists.At the end of the day it is about selling records.Sam Bailey will only sell the winners single.Luke and Nicholas will be lucky to record even one.
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Old 10-12-2013, 15:48
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They will still sell records over all the finalists.At the end of the day it is about selling records.Sam Bailey will only sell the winners single.Luke and Nicholas will be lucky to record even one.
I think Tamera will blow them all out of the water! Just a matter of time!
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Old 10-12-2013, 15:54
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I work on the assumption that we're all equally interesting, but some people are open and easy to talk to and others make you feel like you're acting like a murderer in daring to say "hello". So, same reward, but wildly varying effort - I'll go with the low lying fruit.

And I didn't say "overconfidence", but there such a thing as perfectly appropriate confidence. Of course, it would explain why so many people find me disagreeable.
Believe me, people are not all equally interesting.

No, you didn't say 'overconfidence' but really that is what people, on the whole, find objectionable.

You just about won me over with that last statement.
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Old 10-12-2013, 15:58
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Damn if you dont,damn if you do.A performer needs to be confident and a street/urban act cant be shy. Where do you place Rock n Roll singers?
Well, it's easier for them if they are confident. I'm more likely to like them if they're a little unsure of themselves, or if they are, at least, modest rather than boastful or arrogant.
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Old 10-12-2013, 16:28
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Its true though. Its gonna be boring now.
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Old 10-12-2013, 16:48
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None of them are interesting apart from Sam Bailey. I find it hard to believe that they rejected so many interesting groups in favour of this one band who even went to judges houses sans one whole member! I think if they'd kept in that trio of (older) brothers they would have been in the final over both Luke and Rough copy.
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Old 10-12-2013, 16:59
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None of them are interesting apart from Sam Bailey. I find it hard to believe that they rejected so many interesting groups in favour of this one band who even went to judges houses sans one whole member! I think if they'd kept in that trio of (older) brothers they would have been in the final over both Luke and Rough copy.
God no. They were pure leathery cheese!

They should have brought back that group from last year, the three piece with the hefty beatboxer (not the A&F models)

It's clear a plan has been in place for RC for quite some time though. They're a classic marketing-over-talent act, moulded to fit a perceived gap in the market, shortcomings always ignored. Add in Tamera to the mix and I suspect they were hoping for another Alex/JLS double whammy.
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Old 10-12-2013, 17:09
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They're right though. Sam and Nick are fine singers, but they hardly set the world on fire. For a fun, upbeat final it should have been RC, Luke and one other; I'd go for Sam.


And I still do not get why people are so utterly contemptuous of confidence; especially in a performer. Personally, I like confident people. Shy, retiring people are hard work and rarely worth the effort.
That's not confidence Rough Copy are displaying, it's arrogance and big egos. There's a difference.

As for shy people, if the world was full of quiet, reserved people, it would be a lot easier place to live in, that's for sure. Quiet people are easy to get along with, it's the loud ones who cause all the problems.
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Old 10-12-2013, 17:11
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"Rough Copy — Kazeem Ajobe, Sterling Ramsey and Joey James — have also told of their fears for the final featuring three solo singers.

Kazeem said: “We kind of agree — it is going to be boring.

“Next week people will be like, ‘Where are Rough Copy?’ It’ll feel weird."




Taken from a national paper today. These guys honestly think they should be in the final and are the only ones who can liven it up.

Get over yourselves RC, the British public have.
They were bottom of the votes but still think they should be through *inserts missing roll eyes smiley*

I don't think it will be boring as Luke will add some life to it
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Old 10-12-2013, 17:39
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it's been said that XF contestants live for weeks in a bubble where they are constantly praised as the best thing since sliced bread and promised all the fame and fortune one direction has managed to amass and more...


i think RC is just dim enough to repeat to the press the exact consoling words said to them when they went crashing just before the final
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