Have you never said 'no' to something you didn't want - but with tact?

Exactly. Well said.

Being Amy's friend though, shudder, what a prospect.

It's an interesting analogy.

If a person is drunk and get's into a car and has the keys on their person, they CAN still be arrested for being drunk in charge of a motor vehicle EVEN if they do not put the keys in the ignition, let alone drive anywhere.

I DO take your point, but I disagree on the application of it here. for me the argument is purely- did she touch, or have any of that concealer on her her person intentionally, whether she used it for her original purpose or not. If the answer is yes then for me she has used it (albeit not for the intention she had when she put her finger in it)

It's not always carrying out the action, but the intention. As others have said- she stated on the show tonight that she didn't use it on the zit on her face because it was the wrong shade for her skin type.

She never intended to use it, that's why she was so outraged about it, if she had intended to use it she wouldn't have been.

And she DIDN'T use it.

Rebecca's friend?
I would be friends with all of them except Amy .. I know someone just like her..always everyone else's fault...

You can understand Becky' frustration if Amy is lying she really is evil, Becky is a Olympian and this is damaging.

You've said that a few times. I've had some pretty massively insulting posts from him, and because it was nearly always because I was showing his 'argument' to be a load of bull, I thought he might really be real.

Thanks for that Sheila, I'll remember he's a complete WUM in the future. I should have known he was just COPYING the STYLE of Professor Dolores Umbridge.

cheers again.

I do think it's an incredible stretch for Amy to use that one occasion when one other person 'accessed' her concealer, to mean that the concealer was there for everyone's use. The way Amy told it, all wide-eyed, made it sound as if half of the campmates had used it at some point, instead of this one and only occurrance when Rebecca had one finger-tip's worth. *snort*

Sheilaaaa!

This is a serious thread. The internet is a 'serious business' don't you know! (well at least in the DS 'I'm A celeb' forum it appears to be!!)

I'm merely making a point. I am not a WUM, although it would be tempting at times to become one. I stand by my points on here.

You may be a wind-up merchant AOTB - but I've always given you the credit of being an intelligent one. Have you never heard of refusing something tactfully? Its like when someone bought me a disgusting handbag for Christmas once (a secret santa present) - when I was asked afterwards why I never used it - I had to say that it 'didn't go' with whatever I was wearing that day. I couldn't tell them the truth that I'd put the bloody awful thing in the bin as soon as I got home!

Well, she offered it, so EVERYONE used it - usual Amy doublespeaklie.

According to Amy ... No one told her how upset they were she STILL had contraband after being told to hand it in ... Really Amy... What a crock

Ha ha, thank you Sheila (well for the nice compliment bit anyway). Yes I take your point re refusing something gratefully, but this isn't really the issue I'm trying to highlight here.

I still maintain, even by putting her finger in it she was complicit. She said she only didn't put it on her zit on her face as it was the wrong skin tone, NOT out of somehow trying to 'spare Amy's feelings' by taking a tiny dab of it. I do not think Rebecca thought the concealer was as disgusting as that handbag you put in the bin (and I don't blame you BTW- some people choose simply awful presents!)

Massive CROCK of lies.

David on this morning (apparantly) said he'd talked to her about it several times too.

She's such a liar.

Totally agree with your post... I have done exactly the same ... Been given a gift I totally hated but said thank you and how delighted I was to recieve it... Yes that makes me a liar... But it was my nan and I didn't want to offend her..

Nope, still doesn't work, won't ever work, not complicit at all, just too polite.

Amy WANTED her to be complicit though. And then told everyone that she was, nice of her.

Yes I saw that interview also...

This in INCREDIBLY damaging.

It cannot be understated, if the perception is that she lied about this (which quite frankly, I'm still flabbergasted how people watched this show, and still come to the conclusion that she did).

Because as an Olympian the perception could easily be extrapolated to imply what else has she lied about .... i.e. blood and drug doping when training for major Swimming events etc.

Having said that I'm still exasperated how posters on DS and Twitter can seriously (i.e. not trolling) continue to defend the indefensible behaviour of a self centred liar and cheat whom had the likes of Janice Dickinson been in the jungle really would have giving her something to cry over her antics.

I'm really glad Matthew backed Rebecca over Amy's lie. It obviously upset Rebecca very much.

No, the zit she wanted to conceal was on her face.


Thank you. Compliments are surprisingly rare round these parts so I'll take what I can get. She did not intend to apply it to her fingertip. She put her finger in the naughty contraband to apply to her face, where I agree, it DOES work. Then she changed her mind. Wrong skin tone apparently.

The great olympian dodged task after task and THAT is far more damaging than the truth that she did use the concealer.
Anyway her career is over now so it hardly matters that she tells lies and dodges tasks.

Sorry, but Rebecca should never have confronted Amy,Just to be one of the mob, because imo,she showed herself up. How did it go" yes but I didn't use it on my face" well where did you use it?

Why so nasty and unfair? She was medically excused from some tasks, and she helped around the camp a huge amount and was very much liked.

She's not a liar, Amy is a proven liar, no one with sense would believe Amy, but Rebecca's whole life and career has been about being an honest athlete, and she didn't want that compromised.

Her career will go how it does, but that's got nothing to do with it.

Defending Amy by attacking Rebecca here, won't work, it just looks petty and spiteful.

So Rebecca never ever heard Lucy say anything bad about Amy?