Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“When Lucy came out of the jungle, she had a big crowd of both male and female former campmates waiting for her. I think that says a lot about just how generally, well-liked Lucy was in camp. That's hardly the response you'd expect for someone running a 'hate' campaign.”
And Amy quite patently did not. They were very cool to her when she came into the hotel. There was no rush to hug her or even much enthusiasm to do so.
Yes, this may in some quarters mean something about the campmates.
But what it says to me (and how it came over last night), was that they were angry with her.
There was no 'jealousy' (such a lame and pitiable argument and utilised to death on forums such as these. If someone doesn't like someone else, it's always 'jealousy.' Oh yeah? Well, there are peoople I don't like. I don't like them because they are not my type of person/don't have the same interests or openly denigrate my interests or simply are not nice people. Amy i jealous of them? Hell no. I'm not very fond of my life to be honest, but I'd rather be me than anyone else! And I'm pretty sure that's the case for the campmates also).
I did cringe a little when Becky had it out with her at the party, but she obviously felt incredibly betrayed and upset(wouldn't this be around the time they printed the stories of bullying/hate etc that she sold? I imagine the campmates weren't too happy at being portrayed in such a manner, especially if none of it was factual). I would probably have challenged her about it, as well.
And if Becky merely touched the concealer and didn't use it, then she didn't use it. Yes, maybe she should have told her then to turn it in and refused point blank, but they were getting on at the time and she was offered something by someone she thought was a friend.
I think it needs repeating that Becky was under the impression that she had handed in the concealer and was told by Amy that she had done so and then found out later that this wasn't true. Presumably, the 'concealer incident' happened before this. And was of little consequence at the time because no-one had made it into a big deal.
Amy says she felt excluded and that they hated her. What I saw was irritation at someone who did very little (and according to the 'nice ones', including Kian and David) was ungrateful for the way the lunch food was cooked by Lucy yet still demanded more than her fair share. I think 'contrabandgate' was just one thing too far. And it wasn't that she had contraband, more that she lied about it consistently and then lied to Lucy by omission when she failed to correct her about Al.
I don't know. Last night, I got more than a little inkling that she was actually quite manipulative and knew what she was doing, but thought that because she was pretty and good at simpering a bit, everyone would forgive her - as they probably have done throughout her life. Unfortunately, she met people who didn't suffer fools gladly and weren't about to let her off lightly.
I was willing to believe she was just a bit self-obsessed and blind to how she came across to others, but now I'm not so sure (as I said above).
Al had to explain to her that she wasn't 'excluded' because of jealousy or anything else, but thatb they were annoyed because of the way she behaved. I haven't had time to go through all the threads but I'm not sure that's been mentioned.
Should someone have spoken to her about this in the camp? Yes, they should. And that was a mistake. perhaps she would have taken it in. Perhaps not. Or perhaps someone did speak to her and we haven't been shown it (wouldn't surprise me) and they didnt' bother any more because it was a futile task.
On another topic - has Joey got hollow legs or something? Because I have never seen someone come out of the jungle and eat quite so much as he did!
I was utterly flabbergasted and thought it was pretty hilarious (although I did wonder if he was going to be ill later because his stomach wouldn't be used to so much food!)
). But I just got this overwhelming feeling of insincerity about everything she was doing and saying last night. Maybe that's me. Maybe I'm projecting. I don't know. But I like to think I'm a good judge of character. I also never unnecessarily criticise someone (a look at my posting history is evidence). 