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Can we all just agree that Sam SHOULD win |
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Can we all just agree that Sam SHOULD win
(As a Luke fan)Sam really deserves the win more than anyone, she has been the most consistent, more experienced with the best voice out of the 3 by far and it would be nice for an over/girl to win again
Sam FTW
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Luke is my favourite, but I don't think him winning will do him any favours; so I'm hoping for 2nd place and last standing boy.
Sam I think needs the win more. Nicholas wont have any success either way |
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Out of the three, it should be the most talented/person with the X Factor that should win the comp.
To me that means a person who is passionate, quirky and interesting - that is Luke! If anyone should win it's him. Sam B has been overhyped to death. Luke's the musician, singer/songwriter - there's no contest IN MY OPINION. |
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Out of the three, it should be the most talented/person with the X Factor that should win the comp.
To me that means a person who is passionate, quirky and interesting - that is Luke! If anyone should win it's him. Sam B has been overhyped to death. Luke's the musician, singer/songwriter - there's no contest IN MY OPINION. How can you say the songwriter/musician SHOULD win yet want Tamera to win? It's weird that your whole view has changed from wanting Tamera - who isn't a musician or songwriter- to win, then saying someone should win because they are a musician! Sam B has killed the competition this year and should win. No question about it. |
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I agree,I am a BIG Luke fan but actually I dont want him to win(because I want him to be able to do his own thing after the show) and I do think Sam deserves to win.She has been great every week and she really wants it and winning could really change her and her families lives.Luke and Nicholas are only 17 they have so much time to continue their careers
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Didn't you want Tamera to win before?
How can you say the songwriter/musician SHOULD win yet want Tamera to win? It's weird that your whole view has changed from wanting Tamera - who isn't a musician or songwriter- to win, then saying someone should win because they are a musician! Sam B has killed the competition this year and should win. No question about it. Also I supported Tamera, that's not necessarily saying that I thought she would win it (I've always said anyway that Sam's going to win). |
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I agree,I am a BIG Luke fan but actually I dont want him to win(because I want him to be able to do his own thing after the show) and I do think Sam deserves to win.She has been great every week and she really wants it and winning could really change her and her families lives.Luke and Nicholas are only 17 they have so much time to continue their careers
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First four words - pretty much sum it up. OUT OF THE THREE.
Also I supported Tamera, that's not necessarily saying that I thought she would win it (I've always said anyway that Sam's going to win). It's just weird how someone can go from supporting the act with least musicianship to then using "he is a musician" as the excuse for Sam or Nicholas not winning! |
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I doubt you'll get consensus on here. Me, I want Luke...or Sam, actually, definitely Sam. Well, not Nick anyway. Unless Nick's best on the night.
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But Luke was top 5, as Tamera was. You supported Tamera hugely and made it clear in ranking threads that Tamera should be first.
It's just weird how someone can go from supporting the act with least musicianship to then using "he is a musician" as the excuse for Sam or Nicholas not winning! Luke's always been my 2nd or 3rd favorite too actually - I haven't suddenly switched sides. If one of your favorites leaves - don't you start supporting the other? And wow you've really misinterpreted the meaning of the ranking threads? Are those rankings on who we thought was best on the night or who we want to win? Considering they change weekly I'd think it's the former. Anyway this argument is pointless, because I said 'OUT OF THE THREE, I WANT LUKE TO WIN' just to reiterate. |
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Out of the three, it should be the most talented/person with the X Factor that should win the comp.
To me that means a person who is passionate, quirky and interesting - that is Luke! If anyone should win it's him. Sam B has been overhyped to death. Luke's the musician, singer/songwriter - there's no contest IN MY OPINION. Quote:
Didn't you want Tamera to win before?
How can you say the songwriter/musician SHOULD win yet want Tamera to win? It's weird that your whole view has changed from wanting Tamera - who isn't a musician or songwriter- to win, then saying someone should win because they are a musician! Sam B has killed the competition this year and should win. No question about it. |
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Fireemblemcraze's main theme is that s/he just doesn't want Nick to win. Nor would s/he be happy if Sam won, but s/he'll take her over Nick. It has nothing to do with Luke.
Also I haven't mentioned Nick really on this thread aside from talking about his lack of musicianship (that is his lack of ability to put his own stamp on music) which you still haven't commented on. It's this whole 'everyone's against precious Nicky' again. So how you derived that I don't want Nick to win from what I've said on this thread is beyond me. |
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Haha this is just wrong. I've always been a fan of Luke too. And I think what I said about him and why I appreciate him proves that.
Also I haven't mentioned Nick really on this thread aside from talking about his lack of musicianship (that is his lack of ability to put his own stamp on music) which you still haven't commented on. It's this whole 'everyone's against precious Nicky' again. So how you derived that I don't want Nick to win from what I've said on this thread is beyond me. PS - I want Sam to win, he's not my precious Nicky. He has, however, been given a raw deal. |
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I'm supporting Luke but hope he can make runner up. I think Sam would benefit most from winning.
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So are we suppose to ignore everything you say in other threads?
PS - I want Sam to win, he's not my precious Nicky. He has, however, been given a raw deal. But if anyone DESERVES it out of the final 3, it's the musician who puts his own stamp on whatever he sings and puts so much passion into whatever he sings and that's Luke. |
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Tbh I couldn't care less who wins because as others have said creative input is compromised when you sign a deal with Syco.
But if anyone DESERVES it out of the final 3, it's the musician who puts his own stamp on whatever he sings and puts so much passion into whatever he sings and that's Luke. Luke is cool, nice, has a sense of identity and an OK voice, but he is still highly derivative. His song writing might be better than his interpretation though. |
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I agree Sam should win her audition performances are awesome as are those performances on the show.
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It could be said after singing professionally for nearly twenty years Sam has more than had a chance to change her families life but for whatever reason shes never got to the top which is what confuses me to be honest. Shes had the exposure for sure.
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It doesn't matter who wins as none of them will ever be heard of in 12 months time
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Tbh I couldn't care less who wins because as others have said creative input is compromised when you sign a deal with Syco.
But if anyone DESERVES it out of the final 3, it's the musician who puts his own stamp on whatever he sings and puts so much passion into whatever he sings and that's Luke. 1/ They're all musicians. Just because someone plays a guitar doesn't make them more of a musician - it's another string to their bow that's all. Indeed, I would argue Sam and Nick are both more musical singers than Luke is - they have better control and have a better understanding of dynamics and a stronger grasp of applying them within their performances. 2/ Copying another band's arrangement of a 1D song isn't his own stamp. Nor is turning a Beyonce song into a Mumford's pastiche. |
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She would be a sure fire winner of The Voice, but no X Factor for me, but then scruffy and jocky pre-teen have even less
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Tbh I couldn't care less who wins because as others have said creative input is compromised when you sign a deal with Syco.
But if anyone DESERVES it out of the final 3, it's the musician who puts his own stamp on whatever he sings and puts so much passion into whatever he sings and that's Luke. Just playing an instrument is no passport to musicianship. Sam C played guitar as well. Most guitar players in bands can sing as well. Some lead, some backing and some don't want to. In my experience those that don't can all usually sing in tune but just not got the tonal qualities. Luke does seem to struggle with the basics. Unlike Nick the notes he is missing are not outside his comfort zone, just missed! I will also add that Sam can put her own stamp on things. I thought her take on candle in the wind was quite a revelation for me. Her emphasis within the lyrics and phrasing refreshed a song that I thought I had heard enough of. She does connect with songs and attempts to convey her interpretation. |
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Fireemblemcraze: Queen of the moving goal posts.
1/ They're all musicians. Just because someone plays a guitar doesn't make them more of a musician - it's another string to their bow that's all. Indeed, I would argue Sam and Nick are both more musical singers than Luke is - they have better control and have a better understanding of dynamics and a stronger grasp of applying them within their performances. 2/ Copying another band's arrangement of a 1D song isn't his own stamp. Nor is turning a Beyonce song into a Mumford's pastiche. I supported Tamera because I liked her style but I've also liked Luke ever since Kiss From a Rose which I think was fantastic! Hannah was my favorite before until Week 4. Relley, Tom Mann and Andrea were my favorites before them. Support can change. Favorites change. 1) Arguably in terms of technicalities in singing, I don't Nick has nailed it either. Sam arguably has but I don't think he has. He has not got good enough range. You can hear it in the Greatest Day. Also there's a lot more to a performance than pitch and it's about the build up and dynamic. That's why Ella's Bring Me To Life was horrible and why James's Let's Get It On was spot on (btw I'm a fan of both of them). Luke's Kiss From a Rose actually was a great demonstration of his control. He hit all the notes and that falsetto he nailed. It was spot on. 2) What about Play That Funky Music, Skinny Love, Kiss From a Rose where he did his own thing? Also I'm familiar with some of his youtube stuff and it's really quite good and original. Oh yes and let's not forget that anything that is folk rock sounds like Mumford and Sons. He's a singer/songwriter and while that in itself isn't really saying anything, the fact that he can put his own twist on something and interpret it differently is what makes him a musician. He's got his own style. Abi did too. What about Nick's style and Sam's style suggests any kind of uniqueness? |
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It doesn't matter who wins as none of them will ever be heard of in 12 months time
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There's **** all quirky and interesting about tubby. Quote:
Out of the three, it should be the most talented/person with the X Factor that should win the comp.
To me that means a person who is passionate, quirky and interesting - that is Luke! If anyone should win it's him. Sam B has been overhyped to death. Luke's the musician, singer/songwriter - there's no contest IN MY OPINION. |
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