Layla's behaviour on last night's show

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KittyKream

13-12-2013

Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Annabel wasn't petulant

And Amy has no credibility I'm afraid.

Mo uses rough language and she's charmless, but she was right about Amy.”

Originally Posted by Betty Britain:
“Of course you don't ... Maybe it's because your point is being muted by the fact others said far worse than Mo ... Angelic Amy for example ... Dump isn't as crude as s**t is it? But hey Amy said it so we can't critacise now can we ”

I understand this completely in a way 'du*p' is more rude when you think about it.

Everyone can say the s word when they hurt themselves etc or without thinking but to actually say the word 'd*mp' the way she used it..nope not in a million years.

Betty Britain

13-12-2013

Originally Posted by KittyKream:
“Annabel considering her advanced years came across as rather immature to me,and not a very pleasant person all round.
And in my eyes,that gave her no credibility.

Couldn't warm to her and obviously nor could the viewing public.
First to go.”

Advanced years ....how rude ...

Rhumbatugger

13-12-2013

Originally Posted by KittyKream:
“Anne,Amy was often polite! She was the epitome of restraint.

As Alfonso told her,you have to pick your battles with them. They were constantly having sneaky digs and she maintained her dignity.

I wouldn't of faired so well in that regard as I said. But Amy was young also and I don't think she felt self assured enough to speak up on some occasions.”

Amy was VERY self assured, indeed, and self involved and insensitive.

I don't think she gave a damn that the others were fed up with the contraband or her laziness.

If she HAD cared she'd have bucked her ideas up, or given in the contraband.

What could she stand up about? 'I WON'T do any thing and you can't make me'?

'I will KEEP my makeup, whatever you say.'

She knew she'd look terrible if she'd gone that route, so she lied her head off, even to people who tried to help her understand.

And she lied ABOUT them too.

Wonderful.

Betty Britain

13-12-2013

Originally Posted by KittyKream:
“I understand this completely in a way 'du*p' is more rude when you think about it.

Everyone can say the s word when they hurt themselves etc or without thinking but to actually say the word 'd*mp' the way she used it..nope not in a million years.”

SMH

trying to justify Amy using the word S**T by saying dump is more rude ... Are you having a laugh

KittyKream

13-12-2013

Originally Posted by Betty Britain:
“SMH

trying to justify Amy using the word S**T by saying dump is more rude ... Are you having a laugh”

No I meant when you say the s word when you hurt yourself nothing to do with 'defending Amy' is hardly a crime!

anne_666

13-12-2013

And that all turned her into a manipulative back stabbing liar towards Alfonso and a cheat with her contraband? She fed the three heroic men a dry eyed sob story. Mo was wrong in what she did. No-one else was.

KittyKream

13-12-2013

Originally Posted by Betty Britain:
“Advanced years ....how rude ...”

Well over 50 then.middle aged..you are a stickler Betty

KittyKream

13-12-2013

Originally Posted by anne_666:
“And that all turned her into a manipulative back stabbing liar towards Alfonso and a cheat with her contraband? She fed the three heroic men a dry eyed sob story. Mo was wrong in what she did. No-one else was.”

They noted she was being treated differently.

She didn't go to them at all,THEY noticed it themselves

anne_666

13-12-2013

Originally Posted by KittyKream:
“No I meant when you say the s word when you hurt yourself nothing to do with 'defending Amy' is hardly a crime!”

I really don't give a s*** about swear words. Pedantic defense in the extreme now. Mo called Amy a c*** ?? apparently on this forum ,all imaginary and damning exaggeration.

KittyKream

13-12-2013

Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“Amy was VERY self assured, indeed, and self involved and insensitive.

I don't think she gave a damn that the others were fed up with the contraband or her laziness.

If she HAD cared she'd have bucked her ideas up, or given in the contraband.

What could she stand up about? 'I WON'T do any thing and you can't make me'?

'I will KEEP my makeup, whatever you say.'

She knew she'd look terrible if she'd gone that route, so she lied her head off, even to people who tried to help her understand.

And she lied ABOUT them too.

Wonderful.”

Respectfully I disagree

That group resentment and gang mentality would have been intimidating for a girl that age,I think.

anne_666

13-12-2013

Originally Posted by KittyKream:
“They noted she was being treated differently.

She didn't go to them at all,THEY noticed it themselves”

She DID go to them!! ITV2 showed it all. Dry eyed crying and all.As you continually dodge the question that Amy proved herself to most of the campmates and the public to be a manipulative liar, I can only assume that you disagree with them.

Rhumbatugger

13-12-2013

Originally Posted by KittyKream:
“Respectfully I disagree

That group resentment and gang mentality would have been intimidating for a girl that age,I think.”

If she was intimidated, why didn't she just hand the stuff in and pull her weight?

She didn't and she wasn't intimidated at all. She was ANGRY with Alfonso for just telling her to give up the concealer, and she betrayed him, and lied about him.

If she had behaved decently, not lied and cheated and lay around all the time how do you KNOW there would be any gang mentality?

Other beautiful women have been very popular in the junge.

Answer - we don't know, but she would probably have been LIKED.

And I dispute that there even WAS gang mentality, that's an insult to them all, and they seem to have individually come to their ineveitable conclusions about Amy.

Even David and Kian found her exasperating.

anne_666

13-12-2013

Originally Posted by Betty Britain:
“Advanced years ....how rude ...”

Shall we all over 50 just volunteer to throw our knowledge, life experience and education away? Lets form an orderly queue for euthanasia

anne_666

13-12-2013

Originally Posted by Rhumbatugger:
“If she was intimidated, why didn't she just hand the stuff in and pull her weight?

She didn't and she wasn't intimidated at all. She was ANGRY with Alfonso for just telling her to give up the concealer, and she betrayed him, and lied about him.

If she had behaved decently, not lied and cheated and lay around all the time how do you KNOW there would be any gang mentality?

Other beautiful women have been very popular in the junge.

Answer - we don't know, but she would probably have been LIKED.”

I wonder why she has resoundingly proved herself to be the most disliked pretty woman ever on this show?

Rhumbatugger

13-12-2013

Originally Posted by anne_666:
“I wonder why she has resoundingly proved herself to be the most disliked pretty woman ever on this show?”

And with such a basically genial bunch as well?

Betty Britain

13-12-2013

Originally Posted by KittyKream:
“Well over 50 then.middle aged..you are a stickler Betty ”

I can be ... My mother is 68 and I wouldn't say she is "advanced years" ...

Betty Britain

13-12-2013

Originally Posted by KittyKream:
“They noted she was being treated differently.

She didn't go to them at all,THEY noticed it themselves”

She did go to them.. David said .." Amy came to me and asked me what she had done wrong" he said that when they were by the creek with Al and Vincent

Betty Britain

13-12-2013

Originally Posted by KittyKream:
“No I meant when you say the s word when you hurt yourself nothing to do with 'defending Amy' is hardly a crime!”

Kitty ...I don't say the word S##T when I hurt myself... But I don't have a problem if others say it... But I do think it's a word worse than dump

ewoodie

14-12-2013

Originally Posted by imrightok:
“

What is a"wannabe"?

If it is the same conversation I'm thinking of,then Amy was criticising the beans and rice, not necessarily Lucy's cooking.

If it is the same incident where David and Lucy were discussing the beans and saying that they took too long to prepare,Amy told them about the way her and joey prepared them which was quicker ; they said did it taste ok and she said no it tasted horrible and said but so does-I'm not sure if she said Lucy's or the rice and beans taste like whatever - but basically she was saying regardless of which way it's done it taste horrible.

I have heard camp mate after camp mate say that they hated the rice and beans and will never eat another bean again.

At no time were they aiming their comments at the Cook; but this is the first time that a camp mate gets flack for saying it.”

Amy suggested a quicker way to cook the beans. Lucy said she had been told they tasted like shit cooked that way and that she would cook them by the usual longer method. To which Amy said they still taste like shit. That's rude and ungrateful.

So what if the campmates said they'll never eat the beans again. The discussion was on the question of the method of cooking and Amy's rudeness.

Lurchergirls

14-12-2013

Originally Posted by anne_666:
“Shall we all over 50 just volunteer to throw our knowledge, life experience and education away? Lets form an orderly queue for euthanasia ”

Only if I can bring wine & snacks, if I have to go I'm gonna have fun doing it

imrightok

14-12-2013

Originally Posted by Betty Britain:
“Advanced years ....how rude ...”

It would appear your standards are the only standards. I've seen you call a few posters rude, for nothing more than a yawn, saying somebody was advanced in years and a few other things that escape me.

Do you say rude things?

imrightok

14-12-2013

Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“Amy suggested a quicker way to cook the beans. Lucy said she had been told they tasted like shit cooked that way and that she would cook them by the usual longer method. To which Amy said they still taste like shit. That's rude and ungrateful.

So what if the campmates said they'll never eat the beans again. The discussion was on the question of the method of cooking and Amy's rudeness.”

No it wasn't.

ewoodie

14-12-2013

Everyone can also use the word sugar or ouch!

What about when Steve used the word 'shit' is that as 'rude' as 'dump'?

Whether or not we use these words in our everyday lives is not the issue. Neither shit nor dump were bleeped out, so I assume the general consensus at ITV is that these words are not 'rude'.

Betty Britain

14-12-2013

Originally Posted by imrightok:
“It would appear your standards are the only standards. I've seen you call a few posters rude, for nothing more than a yawn, saying somebody was advanced in years and a few other things that escape me.

Do you say rude things?”

Do you?

My post was tongue in cheek and i believe it was recieved that way

imrightok

14-12-2013

Originally Posted by Betty Britain:
“Do you?

My post was tongue in cheek and i believe it was recieved that way”

Who's to say that those that you are calling rude are not also'tongue in cheek'?

Also I haven't found anything tongue in check about most if not all your post about Amy. They've been mostly rude.

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