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Old 13-12-2013, 02:39
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I feel the final lacks excitement this year given that Sam B has had nothing but 10 out of 10s from all of the judges and the majority of viewers too.

I really liked her and was championing her before the final 10, but then got bored by her performances every week since.

I'm not looking forward to the finals because it would appear she's got no competition whatsoever.

And yet, I'm sort of hoping that either Luke or Nick will pull something out of the bag and WOW us. Well maybe not.

Kind of a letdown this year as there seems to be no nail-biting finale
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Old 13-12-2013, 02:43
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Don't let Rough Copy read this, they'll start off with 'The final will be boring without us' again
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Old 13-12-2013, 02:45
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Sam won't be able to cope without the confront of the studio. It will suit Nick and Luke more.
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Old 13-12-2013, 02:46
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shes stood out because of how poor everyone else has been really

doesn't say a lot for the standard of the competition when shes been the only contestant who has actually managed to sing in tune every week
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Old 13-12-2013, 02:48
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Don't let Rough Copy read this, they'll start off with 'The final will be boring without us' again
Haha... To be honest with you, I'm not up on this forum's gossip at all. There's loads of acts that I've liked including RC, Hannah and Tamera. But maybe these three are the best. Who am I to judge?
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Old 13-12-2013, 02:50
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shes stood out because of how poor everyone else has been really

doesn't say a lot for the standard of the competition when shes been the only contestant who has actually managed to sing in tune every week
Well that's true. I just find her performances a bit predictable...if that's the right word?
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Old 13-12-2013, 02:52
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Well that's true. I just find her performances a bit predictable...if that's the right word?
yep it is , and she is

all series I have been saying I want to see her do a song differently to the original , slow it down or change it up , just something that isn't basically exactly the same arrangement, tempo, tone etc etc etc as it was done by whoever she is covering

edit : having said that she did change candle in the wind , unfortunately she turned it into a power ballad which meant it completely lost the subtlety and meaning of the original
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Old 13-12-2013, 02:57
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yep it is , and she is

all series I have been saying I want to see her do a song differently to the original , slow it down or change it up , just something that isn't basically exactly the same arrangement, tempo, tone etc etc etc as it was done by whoever she is covering
I think you are right. Everything she's done so far just seems so 'coverish' of other acts and she hasn't yet got her own identity.

I really had high hopes for her at the beginning, but feel that after she wins, if she wins, I doubt I'd rush out to buy her album when I can buy the original artist. Sorry to be mean, but that's how I feel about her performances.
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Old 13-12-2013, 03:01
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shes stood out because of how poor everyone else has been really

doesn't say a lot for the standard of the competition when shes been the only contestant who has actually managed to sing in tune every week
To be fair most years just about all contestants have their share of pitching problems. Matt wasn't averse to a bum note here or there for instance. In fact, the only contestant I can think of in recent years who hasn't missed a note is Joe.
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Old 13-12-2013, 03:03
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To be fair most years just about all contestants have their share of pitching problems. Matt wasn't averse to a bum note here or there for instance. In fact, the only contestant I can think of in recent years who hasn't missed a note is Joe.
but this year its not just been the odd bum note

apart from Nicholas every other act was flat or out of tune virtually every week
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Old 13-12-2013, 03:13
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but this year its not just been the odd bum note

apart from Nicholas every other act was flat or out of tune virtually every week
I know, but it's like that most years!
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Old 13-12-2013, 03:16
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I know, but it's like that most years!
possibly

this year it just feels like its been worse

all the pimping of acts being told how flawless their vocals are every week when you were reaching for the mute button when they were singing
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Old 13-12-2013, 03:26
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this year it just feels like its been worse

all the pimping of acts being told how flawless their vocals are every week when you were reaching for the mute button when they were singing
Oh yeah, but that's a different issue. There certainly was a time when the judges would pick up on pitching issues much more readily. I suppose this year the worst offenders were the ones they were pushing the most so it suddenly got brushed under the carpet. I suspect it does make the general standard seem worse when the judging panels standards seem to have conveniently slipped.
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Old 13-12-2013, 03:58
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Oh yeah, but that's a different issue. There certainly was a time when the judges would pick up on pitching issues much more readily. I suppose this year the worst offenders were the ones they were pushing the most so it suddenly got brushed under the carpet. I suspect it does make the general standard seem worse when the judging panels standards seem to have conveniently slipped.
judging was very poor this year a lot of contestants out of tune but never picked up i thought luke was out of tune for your song by Elton john and judges said it was brilliant and we be all day here if we talk about rough copy but Nicholas and sam bailey didn't have tuning problems i think she win alrite
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Old 13-12-2013, 07:23
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Sam Bailey winning is certainly not guranteed, its never that straight forward especially on shows such as The X Factior.

Nicholas especially will attract alot of votes, and I think Luke will make one heck of an impact as well!

My thinking being girls vote for boys, and that plus this supposed Scottish vote may land Nicholas with the win!
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Old 13-12-2013, 07:27
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Sam won't be able to cope without the confront of the studio. It will suit Nick and Luke more.

Sam will do just great. I'll bet she's sung in front of much bigger audiences than the lads. This is hers to lose.
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Old 13-12-2013, 07:31
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yep it is , and she is

all series I have been saying I want to see her do a song differently to the original , slow it down or change it up , just something that isn't basically exactly the same arrangement, tempo, tone etc etc etc as it was done by whoever she is covering

edit : having said that she did change candle in the wind , unfortunately she turned it into a power ballad which meant it completely lost the subtlety and meaning of the original

This is a competition.

When you compete, you go out there and do what you do best in order to win. You DON'T go out there and do stuff that would put you outside of your comfort zone just to please people.

You wouldn't see Wayne Rooney playing in goal just because people are fed up with watching him score goals.
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Old 13-12-2013, 08:33
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This is a competition.

When you compete, you go out there and do what you do best in order to win. You DON'T go out there and do stuff that would put you outside of your comfort zone just to please people.

You wouldn't see Wayne Rooney playing in goal just because people are fed up with watching him score goals.
Good post.
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Old 13-12-2013, 08:41
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This is a competition.

When you compete, you go out there and do what you do best in order to win. You DON'T go out there and do stuff that would put you outside of your comfort zone just to please people.

You wouldn't see Wayne Rooney playing in goal just because people are fed up with watching him score goals.
its more than just a competition , its about setting yourself up for your future

and even then you risk boring people by not showing any originality

if she had had any serious opposition this year then she couldn't have just played it safe week after week like she has
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Old 13-12-2013, 08:43
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Sam B has come out every week and put in pitch perfect performances. She has shone when the likes of Tamera, RC, Luke, Hannah and KR have all fallen.

She doesn't sound samey to me at all. She has sung more upbeat songs in the lives than Nicholas, Tamera, Hannah or Abi ever did.

She has truly taken the competition to a new level and left no space for anyone else, if she wins it will most definitely be deserved. She is easily the best.
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Old 13-12-2013, 08:46
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its more than just a competition , its about setting yourself up for your future

and even then you risk boring people by not showing any originality

if she had had any serious opposition this year then she couldn't have just played it safe week after week like she has
People have commented all year (before the lives anyway) that Nicholas, Tamera, RC and Hannah were all very strong competition. Even then, when she got to the live shows Sam B still showed them how it was done and shone above them every week.

People on here say "It was so obvious Sam would win from day 1" but when you look at "Predict the finishing order" threads from before the live shows not many predicted Sam B would win or actually make the top 3. Before Tamera got crap, Hannah landed bottom 2 and RC turned dreadful people on here said those 3 would be final 3 because they were so much better than the rest. Hmmm, guess all that changes when Sam B looks set to win.
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Old 13-12-2013, 08:46
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its not about whether she has done upbeat or not

Nicholas has been criticised a number of times for showing no originality and no individuality because hes done every song as a straight copy of its original , sam has done exactly the same but no mention of that at all

its about showing some level of artistry or musicianship , without that you need to have an exceptional voice and as good as she has been she doesn't have that
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Old 13-12-2013, 08:48
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People have commented all year (before the lives anyway) that Nicholas, Tamera, RC and Hannah were all very strong competition. Even then, when she got to the live shows Sam B still showed them how it was done and shone above them every week.

People on here say "It was so obvious Sam would win from day 1" but when you look at "Predict the finishing order" threads from before the live shows not many predicted Sam B would win or actually make the top 3. Before Tamera got crap, Hannah landed bottom 2 and RC turned dreadful people on here said those 3 would be final 3 because they were so much better than the rest. Hmmm, guess all that changes when Sam B looks set to win.
come on WHW , people on here have hailed tamera as the next messiah , doesn't mean its true

apart from sam no-one has even managed to sing in tune every week
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Old 13-12-2013, 08:49
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I hope she does, I've not voted so far this series, but I will vote for her tomorrow.
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Old 13-12-2013, 08:49
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its not about whether she has done upbeat or not

Nicholas has been criticised a number of times for showing no originality and no individuality because hes done every song as a straight copy of its original , sam has done exactly the same but no mention of that at all

its about showing some level of artistry or musicianship , without that you need to have an exceptional voice and as good as she has been she doesn't have that
Why are you not bringing up Tamera, RC or Hannah? All of whom never ever did change a version of a song and never got critiqued for not being original? Hmm?

She has easily the best voice in the competition and has improved greatly. She has shown she is capable of putting on great performances. She has shown she can sing ballads. She can show she can move. She has shown she can get the emotion across and most of all, she has shown that she has something.

People can deny this until they are blue in the face but each year we get an "Over belter" and do they win? No. Never. So why the hell would it be different this year? I'll tell you why! It's because Sam B is not only head and shoulders above every other over ever on the show, but is head and shoulders above pretty much all X Factor contestants bar Leona and Alex.
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