SAM BAILEY has got a fantastic voice and is versatile...but as a performer she's as dull as dishwater. Nothing interesting about her voice. Not an exciting tone to her voice. When she sings Celine Dion's songs she actually tries to copy Celine's twang to her voice. There's nothign new, original or interesting about Sam or her voice. People who think that Sam Bailey is incredible really need to hear proper music. There's better than Sam Bailey even on YouTube. People need to get out there and listen to real music, real artists.

someone gets it at least

Im not interested in timid half speaking half trying to sing little girls, or 'pained' 20 something men with guitars and side burns giving fake 'feeling' and 'emotion' to boring songs.

I want big epic soaring ballads

Hipsters ruining music again with the 'feels'

Gimme a break

Change is not the requirement - it needs to be made BETTER! Sam had to do the song better. Given the original was a, tedious, Fat Reg number, I think she succeeded, but she still didn't make it interesting; she just sang it better.

On the whole , Sam sings boring, slow songs of loss and regret in a boring, slow style. If she wants to show versatility, while sticking to what she is good at, she needs to take a song that isn't slow and boring (so nothing by Bouncy or Dion or Whitney or Christina) and rework it to suit her. An example would be to take something like Trent(NIN) Reznor's "The Perfect Drug" or "Hurt" and make it her own.

It takes all sorts. Me, I'm simple - loads of grinding guitar and feedback building to a staggering crescendo of, vaguely, tuneful noise. Mogwai, And So I Watch You From Afar or 65daysofstatic. Music for Asperger's sufferers, music you can nod sagely to.

Why does it need to be better

Why are you expecting it to be better than the version thats considered the biggest selling song of all time?

Your crazy!

Why can't it be a simple elegant interpretation of it?

No more tears - fast disco
New York New York - up tempo Big Band
Bleeding Love - contemporary upbeat
How will i know - upbeat 80s
Edge of Glory - contemporary upbeat

So out of TEN songs half of them have been upbeat!

Probably, but it still needs to be better - made new and fresh and interesting. If she can't do that with CitW (and it is a big ask it is such a dreary song) then she should have picked another. Maybe that song where Fat Reg sang with Kiki out of Hector's House.



Yes - as long as it's better. A new, fresh interpretation. Better for now, not, necessarily, absolutely better. It could be simple - it is possible that a song could be made better by being made more dull; I'm no bigot.




They may have been upbeat at some point, but SB sucked the "up" out; what was left all sounded the same. Don't get me wrong - I loved No More Tears (always been one of my favourites), but she keeps doing the same thing in the same way and it's become dull. If you are male, ALL Whitney Houston songs sound the same. Really, they do. And Celine Dion - she sounds exactly like Whitney Houston to me.

And, honestly, do you really think that lot are upbeat? Try some Dubstep or just some good old fashioned drum&bass or some Trance. Try some classic metal or some Hardcore.

I am male and i can't stand that muddled unfinished crap that is dub step@

You're male and you like ballads? I don't believe you.

Fair point on the DubStep - I didn't say it was good, just that it was upbeat.

Why the hell wouldn't males like ballads?

What a very stupid comment.

I don't know why - I'm no anthropologist and I don't make the rules. It might be genetic, it might be cultural. I suspect it's genetic.

Of course you are Ellie

I'm male, and whilst i do listen to dubstep every now and then, i'd choose ballads over it any day of the week.

Well said.

My analogy is bang on.

When someone is good at something you don't put them in a different department. Thats a fact and whether you like it or not, the same goes for Mr. Rooney. He is a striker and you need him to keep scoring regardless of how boring it might become.

Likewise, Sam NEEDS to keep doing what she does best regardless of how boring it becomes.

So you're saying that Sam is a second rate COPY of Beyonce, Tina Turner, Rihanna and Celine Dion ? If you are then you are admitting to the versatility that Sam has as all 4 of those mentioned are totally different to each other.

Power ballad ? What on earth are you talking about ? It sure as heck wasn't a power ballad.

Seriously, were you expecting an easy beat or an up-tempo ?

You keep stating that you could name a number of acts. If you want any credibility on this thread I think you should start naming names.

That would be correct.

Sorry but that comment alone means that anything more you have to say on this thread is irrelevant and pointless. What an utterly ridiculous thing to say. I am male, a raging metal fan but most of my all time favourite songs are ballads.

Dayum, noelw1969 is SLAYING!

why do I need to name names ?

I was asked who I thought was an original artist and I said anyone who doesn't just do cover versions

that answered the question , and if you cant understand that then I don't think its my credibility that's in question

that could be anyone whether its someone I like or not so names are irrelevant , my point which you and the OP seemed to miss is that atm sam B is nothing more than a copycat of original artists, you might try and twist my words to imply she is good because she can copy different styles and still do it good but its not , she is still only copying, as a poster said above when she did my heart will go on she was even doing it in a Canadian accent as all she could do was copy celine dion's version

when she did candle in the wind she tried to copy the original but ended up just belting it out , the power ballad comment , which again you have misunderstood in your haste to defend sam at all costs, of course it wasn't a proper power ballad, the song doesn't allow that, but she still sang in that style as she wasn't able to sing it in the way it was intended so by default fell into what she knows best

as I have said many times now , she is good at what she does , she will be a deserving winner of the show should she win it, but until she shows she can do something original she will be nothing more than a second rate cover version singer

What versatility? Sounds the same to me

I like Sam but there is something missing.

When I watched her sing Clown the first time I was blown away.

The second time it was sort of meh.

That's her problem. You know what to expect - there's no buzz if she's done a song before.

Right, lets get back to basics.

99.9% of songs done on the X Factor are cover versions. The only reason its not 100% is that 1 and a half songs of original material were sung last year. This, when they sought out people who could write and perform their own stuff.

Sam B is not a songwriter so she cannot sing her own material and X Factor does not have people writing original material for the finalists which means most of what you hear, are cover versions. This in turn means that there is no way that you have heard Sam B sing anything other than cover versions which in turn make your comments, unsupported, simply because you have yet to hear her sing anything original.

Quite understandable really, even for you. Credibility question answered.

I have continued to listen to that song and simply refuse to acknowledge the comment you make that she, "ended just belting it out". It wasn't a great song but you are talking rubbish. Oh, and there goes the idea that I would defend her at all costs. Damn !!