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Argentine Tango Talk
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sofakat
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by henrywilliams58:
“Most songs have pretty rubbish lyrics.”

You mean tango songs, or argentinian songs, or songs in general?

Or are some just a lousy translation?
henrywilliams58
03-12-2014
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“You mean tango songs, or argentinian songs, or songs in general?

Or are some just a lousy translation?”

Pop songs mostly have lousy lyrics.

When I translate songs I don't do a literal translation and try and fit with the sense. Translation in general in fact.

I translated "Si nos dejan" a while back. Still in draft.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN7_2r4HKQA

I'll have to fine tune it and post it for comments to see if it fits the music. Maybe good for a Rumba.
henrywilliams58
04-12-2014
Any Ottmar Liebert fans here?

Ottmar Liebert Surrender 2 Love (Nouveau Flamenco)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYU9Ld4hTH8

Barcelona nights → Album Nouveau flamenco (Ottmar Liebert)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTrhxVwz0_g
An Thropologist
04-12-2014
Originally Posted by henrywilliams58:
“Any Ottmar Liebert fans here?

Ottmar Liebert Surrender 2 Love (Nouveau Flamenco)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYU9Ld4hTH8

Barcelona nights → Album Nouveau flamenco (Ottmar Liebert)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTrhxVwz0_g”

There is now,
An Thropologist
04-12-2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxwxM8qVnK4

Loved this one
henrywilliams58
04-12-2014
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“There is now, ”

Good.

He is a Hungarian from Germany who settled in the US. I have several of his CDs.

This is another good one

Ottmar Liebert - Santa Fe (Live in the Bing Lounge)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A_ZKM4boxI

And you have to love this

Ottmar Liebert - Duende del Amor (Live in the Bing Lounge)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwVNCdLhn_4
henrywilliams58
04-12-2014
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxwxM8qVnK4

Loved this one”

Cool. I'm doing air guitar to it.
Jim Kowalski
04-12-2014
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“.......

I think Goton Project who in some respects have revitalised the musical genre in the modern day are French and Spanish ???? Even non AT dancers will be familiar with their music, as it is used for other things including advertising everything from diamonds to dishwasher tablets.”

Interesting.
Examples?
I think it was called summat like 'Una Musica Brutale' that Pasha and Chelsee danced their AT to.
I liked it,quite a lot.
An Thropologist
04-12-2014
Originally Posted by Jim Kowalski:
“Interesting.
Examples?
I think it was called summat like 'Una Musica Brutale' that Pasha and Chelsee danced their AT to.
I liked it,quite a lot.”

Oh I am sorry Jim. This is the one that everyone will know, even if they don't know they know it. If you see what I mean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-DkkpGk5h0

It is really popular with advertisers. I am guessing something to do with the cicadas at the beginning of the piece.

Not to be muddled with sacadas, which is the AT step in which one partner replaces the footprint of the other really fast, so you get that legs kicking each other out of the way optical illusion.

My AT teacher pronounces Sacadas as Cicadas. So with his Spanish accent he is actually saying "Today class we will be working on our crickets" I can see the Spanish native speakers in the class put their chins to their chests to mask their grins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9lfdx-h6u0

Here is another Gotan track. My favourite (well today it is! )

And the one you mentioned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as59Id4eHhc
henrywilliams58
04-12-2014
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Oh I am sorry Jim. This is the one that everyone will know, even if they don't know they know it. If you see what I mean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-DkkpGk5h0

It is really popular with advertisers. I am guessing something to do with the cicadas at the beginning of the piece.

Not to be muddled with sacadas, which is the AT step in which one partner replaces the footprint of the other really fast, so you get that legs kicking each other out of the way optical illusion.

My AT teacher pronounces Sacadas as Cicadas. So with his Spanish accent he is actually saying "Today class we will be working on our crickets" I can see the Spanish native speakers in the class put their chins to their chests to mask their grins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9lfdx-h6u0

Here is another Gotan track. My favourite (well today it is! )

And the one you mentioned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as59Id4eHhc”

Tell him to be open his vowels and he should open his "As" [pronounce "A" Spanish style] That should get the other half of the room worked up.
sofakat
05-12-2014
Originally Posted by henrywilliams58:
“Pop songs mostly have lousy lyrics.
”

I don't listen to 'pop' music, so I expect what I prefer to listen to has much better lyrics.
sofakat
05-12-2014
Originally Posted by henrywilliams58:
“Any Ottmar Liebert fans here?

]”

Yes, have been one for years.
henrywilliams58
05-12-2014
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“I don't listen to 'pop' music, so I expect what I prefer to listen to has much better lyrics.”

A Spanish brother in law told me he was learning English to be able to understand English music. I told him that I never listen to the lyrics.
An Thropologist
05-12-2014
Goodness me! I have just seen Caroline and Pashs's music.

Typical on a night I am out.
henrywilliams58
06-12-2014
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Goodness me! I have just seen Caroline and Pashs's music.

Typical on a night I am out.”

Just for you then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0AA_YuyY5g

Be grateful.
An Thropologist
06-12-2014
Originally Posted by henrywilliams58:
“Just for you then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0AA_YuyY5g

Be grateful.”

A bit random... but thanks I can watch Gene Kelly all night long.

Sadly my bubble burst shortly after I posted that. Frankie and Kevin's salsa track was cited and then my expectations dropped completely off a cliff when I saw their training footage. It looks as if we are to get another salsa free salsa. Why don't they just drop this dance if they can't be bothered to even try to do it with a modicum of authenticity.
henrywilliams58
06-12-2014
OK here is

Miguel Angel Zotto & Daiana Guspero La Cumparsita (much too flashy for my liking)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tKeMopEN60

Chicho - La Cumparsita (not keen on it. OTT as well as he often is)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPbEaZYUVtA
henrywilliams58
06-12-2014
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“A bit random... but thanks I can watch Gene Kelly all night long.

Sadly my bubble burst shortly after I posted that. Frankie and Kevin's salsa track was cited and then my expectations dropped completely off a cliff when I saw their training footage. It looks as if we are to get another salsa free salsa. Why don't they just drop this dance if they can't be bothered to even try to do it with a modicum of authenticity.”

Especially galling when they can produce great waltzes (I think) as per Simon and Kristina.
An Thropologist
06-12-2014
How do they manage on that surface. It looks like a faux cobbled slab payment and she appears to be wearing louboutins?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ7pcCCf000

And what is odd about this clip?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JevZgJ5Q2P8

henrywilliams58
06-12-2014
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“How do they manage on that surface. It looks like a faux cobbled slab payment and she appears to be wearing louboutins?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ7pcCCf000

And what is odd about this clip?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JevZgJ5Q2P8

”

C&A Loubis (i know more than I should about Loubis unfortunately. And as it happens I know Jimmy Choo well)

The second video has London phone boxes.
An Thropologist
06-12-2014
Originally Posted by henrywilliams58:
“C&A Loubis (i know more than I should about Loubis unfortunately. And as it happens I know Jimmy Choo well)

The second video has London phone boxes.”

and a letter box too I think. How odd.

Didn't C&A close down? Is there still one in London?. I used to love C&A. Miss it lots.
henrywilliams58
06-12-2014
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“and a letter box too I think. How odd.

Didn't C&A close down? Is there still one in London?. I used to love C&A. Miss it lots.”

London ones are usually oblong. Looks Spanish as round but they are yellow. Cold be British ones.

C&A is going strong in Spain and much of Europe - and in Argentina as we see. My first suit was from C&A.
Jennifer_F
06-12-2014
Originally Posted by henrywilliams58:
“Just for you then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0AA_YuyY5g

Be grateful.”

Ballroom Tango is often danced to this too. Not a track that thrills me much, I have to say. Have danced to it many, many times. Authentic though, so thats good,
An Thropologist
06-12-2014
Enjoy the show tonight peeps. I won't see it until later. I am out hosting a Mixed Latin Christmas party. Its aimed at a mixed audience and the idea is to blend normal UK/US party tracks with Latin. Its very light hearted and casual, anything goes, the music is usually Latin pop with a spot of AT, Flamenco and more hard core salsa thrown in. People can dance what ever style they want from shuffling around the handbags to a full on Sevillanas. Focus is on spot not progressive dances for obvious reasons.

Which has got me thinking. Has anyone ever tried or seen tried blending AT with social ballroom? ( ie progressive dances of mixed genres) I am quite happy dancing AT to non AT tracks ( although draw the line at Zorba the Greek ) But I like dancing to jazz especially and have A Tangoed to the odd rock track. I am wondering if it would work to do something similar to the above in a ballroom not a club for mixed styles. By that I mean at any given time people might be on the floor dancing different styles to the same track.

Possible, barking or barking but possible?
henrywilliams58
06-12-2014
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Enjoy the show tonight peeps. I won't see it until later. I am out hosting a Mixed Latin Christmas party. Its aimed at a mixed audience and the idea is to blend normal UK/US party tracks with Latin. Its very light hearted and casual, anything goes, the music is usually Latin pop with a spot of AT, Flamenco and more hard core salsa thrown in. People can dance what ever style they want from shuffling around the handbags to a full on Sevillanas. Focus is on spot not progressive dances for obvious reasons.

Which has got me thinking. Has anyone ever tried or seen tried blending AT with social ballroom? ( ie progressive dances of mixed genres) I am quite happy dancing AT to non AT tracks ( although draw the line at Zorba the Greek ) But I like dancing to jazz especially and have A Tangoed to the odd rock track. I am wondering if it would work to do something similar to the above in a ballroom not a club for mixed styles. By that I mean at any given time people might be on the floor dancing different styles to the same track.

Possible, barking or barking but possible?”

Pretty normal at after-wedding dances in the hotel ballroom.

What could people dance to this club track (that I posted in another thread)?

Cayetano - Feel (Feat Valia)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDMHARLC6Ik
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