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Old 04-03-2014, 23:43
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Why are people so sure it will come to plus? Was it announced?
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Old 05-03-2014, 00:15
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Why are people so sure it will come to plus? Was it announced?
It was supposed to be a launch plus game but was delayed. Since then it was announced it would still come to plus once ready. Limited cars and tracks but still able to platinum.
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Old 11-03-2014, 08:53
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The game has gone back to the drawing board according to Sony. A wiff of gt5 has just come through the door. Although that was last year, so I suppose it could arrive fairly soon'ish.
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Old 11-03-2014, 09:20
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The game has gone back to the drawing board according to Sony. A wiff of gt5 has just come through the door. Although that was last year, so I suppose it could arrive fairly soon'ish.
Yeah - worrying this. Part of me is happy that they are taking the time to get this right but there is a concern that there is something fundamentally wrong here.
The PS4 does need another racer. I would have loved a shiny 1080p Wipeout about now...
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Old 11-03-2014, 11:42
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So this and watchdogs are gone to ****. What is going on with these developers? The ps4 is supposed to be easy to build games for.
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Old 11-03-2014, 11:54
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So this and watchdogs are gone to ****. What is going on with these developers? The ps4 is supposed to be easy to build games for.
All they have said is that they have gone back to the drawing board.

Basically means it wasn't ready for launch so they've spent more time optimising it.

Will it arrive with 1080p and 60fps? Who knows. Hope it does.

As for watchdogs yes it would be disappointing if it lacks the graphical polish originally shown.

But at least its 1080p
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Old 11-03-2014, 12:20
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After reading about them going back to the "drawing board", my last bit of enthusiasm has died for DriveClub. They can take as long as they want now for all I care, Project Cars, you're mine !
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Old 11-03-2014, 12:21
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So this and watchdogs are gone to ****. What is going on with these developers? The ps4 is supposed to be easy to build games for.
Seems devs can't win, release sub standard game and then patch patch and try to patch again just like bf4 and we complain and say they should have waited until all the bugs had been removed before it was released. And when a company decides to hold back a game until it is 100% people still complain.
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Old 11-03-2014, 13:23
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Seems devs can't win, release sub standard game and then patch patch and try to patch again just like bf4 and we complain and say they should have waited until all the bugs had been removed before it was released. And when a company decides to hold back a game until it is 100% people still complain.
The maybe they should not have told us it was a Launch Title, it would have stopped people getting overhyped and then let down.
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Old 11-03-2014, 13:38
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The maybe they should not have told us it was a Launch Title, it would have stopped people getting overhyped and then let down.
But if they thought it would be ready for launch why would they not say? Plus after the back lash EA / Dice have over the quality of BF4, and customers saying it should mot habe been released, they just can't win.
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Old 11-03-2014, 13:44
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After these delays it had better be a fantastic game when it finally releases.
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Old 11-03-2014, 13:49
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Surely the project managers need replacing if the completed time of a game is months after the projected time. No doubt this impacts the budgets. Saying developers cant win doesn't cut it for me. True if they release a buggy game, there's backlash; if they delay a game to fix these bugs there's a backlash. The other alternative is to keep to the project schedule and release a good game. If it was just a game every now and again like GTAV then they may be forgiven, but its happening more and more.
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Old 11-03-2014, 14:25
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Surely the project managers need replacing if the completed time of a game is months after the projected time. No doubt this impacts the budgets. Saying developers cant win doesn't cut it for me. True if they release a buggy game, there's backlash; if they delay a game to fix these bugs there's a backlash. The other alternative is to keep to the project schedule and release a good game. If it was just a game every now and again like GTAV then they may be forgiven, but its happening more and more.
I don't know if you have ever done any coding but I have, for nearly 40 years. Software development often slips. There's little you can do about it because coding is not a simple process. What may seem simple of paper often turns into some thing very complex because of a multitude of factors outside your control. You can try an mitigate the delays but you can never prevent them.

Getting rid of a project manager at a late stage of a project is almost certainly the most stupid thing any developer could do. The PM is the only person who knows what each team is doing and is therefore the only person who can coordinate those teams. If they were sacked then the new PM would take ages to get up to speed and no doubt the project would take a completely direction thus introducing even more delays.
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Old 11-03-2014, 18:18
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Gran Turismo for PS4 will be out before DriveClub at this rate!
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Old 11-03-2014, 18:22
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I guess the good news is that the graphics, sound, handling models etc were all pretty advanced at the time of the delay. They may have started over with the game's structure, but at least a significant proportion of the game is done, so hopefully the wait won't be too long.
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Old 11-03-2014, 20:00
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I don't know if you have ever done any coding but I have, for nearly 40 years. Software development often slips. There's little you can do about it because coding is not a simple process. What may seem simple of paper often turns into some thing very complex because of a multitude of factors outside your control. You can try an mitigate the delays but you can never prevent them.

Getting rid of a project manager at a late stage of a project is almost certainly the most stupid thing any developer could do. The PM is the only person who knows what each team is doing and is therefore the only person who can coordinate those teams. If they were sacked then the new PM would take ages to get up to speed and no doubt the project would take a completely direction thus introducing even more delays.
Ive done Java Programming as part of my degree but never used it in a work environment.
Oh I wasn't thinking about ditching the project manager at the late stage of the project but given how far they run over, maybe afterwards.

All the delays / bug ridden games seems to be happening more recently, be it the neew hardware or whatever. And I know devs need time to get used to the new hardware and that but somebody has to be accountable for what will be seen as a waste of money with all the delays. As a pS4 gamer, there is little I can fault the console on, except for the lack of games, and releasing one or two a month is not good enough. I hate the idea of MGS: Ground Zeroes because its a short campaign and costing 30 quid for what is a long demo, but at least its a game and coming out soon. Ive got launch consoles before but Ive not seen a game drought like this before, or at least I dont remember it.

Sorry Im just throwing my toys out of the pram on this issue, but its annoying me this week.
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Old 11-03-2014, 21:51
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Ive done Java Programming as part of my degree but never used it in a work environment.
Oh I wasn't thinking about ditching the project manager at the late stage of the project but given how far they run over, maybe afterwards.

All the delays / bug ridden games seems to be happening more recently, be it the neew hardware or whatever. And I know devs need time to get used to the new hardware and that but somebody has to be accountable for what will be seen as a waste of money with all the delays. As a pS4 gamer, there is little I can fault the console on, except for the lack of games, and releasing one or two a month is not good enough. I hate the idea of MGS: Ground Zeroes because its a short campaign and costing 30 quid for what is a long demo, but at least its a game and coming out soon. Ive got launch consoles before but Ive not seen a game drought like this before, or at least I dont remember it.

Sorry Im just throwing my toys out of the pram on this issue, but its annoying me this week.
I bet you had bugs in your Java code too. I also bet if you had longer on your project you could have made it better? Could it have also taken longer if you didn't know how to do something until you did it?

Its not the project manager that failed with drive club anyway, its sony politics. Hence the technical art director leaving last week to go solo.
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Old 27-04-2014, 20:54
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Update from the game's official Facebook page....

"We know you want news about DRIVECLUB. We are going to bring you up to speed with a full ‪#‎DRIVECLUB‬ update soon, because we are immensely proud of how the game is developing and we’re confident you’ll see why when we show you more.

We are also really grateful for your ongoing support and enthusiasm. Your comments, tweets and emails are a huge source of motivation for the team and you keep us fired up and working hard to achieve our ambitions for the game.

Expect an official release date, full game details and new videos in the weeks to come. We'll be here to take questions and to chat to you too, so share a message with us and keep following for more updates. We're looking forward to showing you more!"


On Twitter, they said the info would be coming "in the weeks up to E3" so hopefully this is all happening sooner rather than later. There's even been speculation about a surprise launch during E3 itself, but I'm not getting my hopes up for that.
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Old 27-04-2014, 21:26
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Fingers crossed. Loved The Motorstorm series so I am still hopeful for this.
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Old 27-04-2014, 21:44
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I bet you had bugs in your Java code too. I also bet if you had longer on your project you could have made it better? Could it have also taken longer if you didn't know how to do something until you did it?

Its not the project manager that failed with drive club anyway, its sony politics. Hence the technical art director leaving last week to go solo.
Bit late replying to this but it's always worth remembering the oft used development quote that goes along the lines of... On time, on spec, on budget. Choose two of the three.
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Old 29-04-2014, 16:55
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October 8th then.
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Old 29-04-2014, 16:57
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Feels like a very long way away, but it's looking good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny3JYGXCmFg
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Old 29-04-2014, 17:04
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Feels like a very long way away, but it's looking good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny3JYGXCmFg
I'm sure it'll be worth the wait FF
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Old 29-04-2014, 17:08
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I'm sure it'll be worth the wait FF
I love the concept behind this, made even better by the fact that pretty much everyone will have a copy of some form. Not only will it have a massive community, but there's no excuse for even your most skint of real life friends not to join in.

And technically it certainly looks the part already, with another 5 - 6 months of polishing time remaining.

I'm VERY optimistic.
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Old 29-04-2014, 17:12
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Why do you say skint friends ?
They don't appear to be answering over the plus questions and just saying game available on disc
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