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After the revelation of the final dances, who will be out first and who will win?
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bendymixer
18-12-2013
I dont mind Natalie good dancer if a bit too experienced (my Opinion) it is Artem I can't stand but if she wins fair enough
Mr_XcX
18-12-2013
Originally Posted by edy10:
“No. I disagree.

This is an entertainment show and a " dancing " competition. Imo the best dancer doesnt have to win but the dancer who captured the audience the most, that is the reality.

If Susanna wins, I wouldn't think that Natalie was robbed because at the end of the day it's a popularity contest .Shrug.”

I suppose so. Just think Natalie would be a fantastic champion cause she deserved it. Anyone who can stay above 30 points all series has earned the trophy IMO.
Cadiva
18-12-2013
Originally Posted by Mr_XcX:
“I suppose so. Just think Natalie would be a fantastic champion cause she deserved it. Anyone who can stay above 30 points all series has earned the trophy IMO.”

BIB: Not if they don't capture the public's imagination as well.
21stCenturyBoy
18-12-2013
Originally Posted by Mr_XcX:
“I imagine the song choice for Abbey's showdance is the producers. They have interfered already ruining Ashley's performances and making Mark the comedy donkey till he was eliminated. Maybe Abbey is next on the hit list. To ensure Natalie gets 3rd place.

It ridiculous that Natalie is most likely to get 4th. UK SCD viewers really are beyond words for me. If this was DWTS Natalie would win by a landslide cause American voters will vote for talent.”

Not this year they didn't. Christina Milian was eliminated the night she scored the first 10 of the season, whilst duds like Leah and Bill (who could dance but certainly nowhere Christina's standard) lasted right through to the end.

Anyhow, DWTS vote for whoever Derek's partnering. I know Artem is popular, but his cult of personality is quite that strong. Yet
Mr_XcX
18-12-2013
Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“I dont mind Natalie good dancer if a bit too experienced (my Opinion) it is Artem I can't stand but if she wins fair enough”

I've found Artem really cold this series. Not as warm as he was with Kara / Holly. Love Natalie though. I honestly don't know what the poor girl can do to win. I read from another forum member that she should not bother turning up to the final along with Abbey as it is a Sophie Vs Susanna show to win. No one wants to compete for 2nd place which is what these girls are doing at best.
Mr_XcX
18-12-2013
Originally Posted by Cadiva:
“BIB: Not if they don't capture the public's imagination as well.”

So to capture the publics imagination you have to be cold and emotionless like Sophie or give it a try girl Susanna. Why not dancing brilliantly cannot capture the publics imagination??
edy10
18-12-2013
Originally Posted by Mr_XcX:
“I suppose so. Just think Natalie would be a fantastic champion cause she deserved it. Anyone who can stay above 30 points all series has earned the trophy IMO.”

I dont see it that way. The best winner imo should have a combination of : great chemistry, great dances (even if it's only 2 or 3 ) , great personality, entertaining ............ So imo being technically the best dancer isn't enough.

But we can all agree to disagree .
Jan2555*GG*
18-12-2013
Originally Posted by poshtamfan:
“I think the judges are choosing who goes out first. ”


No their not. It was a mistake on the BBC site now rectified
Cadiva
18-12-2013
Originally Posted by Mr_XcX:
“So to capture the publics imagination you have to be cold and emotionless like Sophie or give it a try girl Susanna. Why not dancing brilliantly cannot capture the publics imagination??”

That's your opinion of them, clearly not the opinion of those who are voting for them.

Dance is an art form, it needs to have emotional connection and what ticks one persons boxes is not the same as someone else.
edy10
18-12-2013
Originally Posted by Mr_XcX:
“So to capture the publics imagination you have to be cold and emotionless like Sophie or give it a try girl Susanna. Why not dancing brilliantly cannot capture the publics imagination??”

Believe it or not but I actually enjoy watching Susanna/Kevin dance more than I enjoy watching Nartem even though the latter are brilliant and amazing dancers .
Susanna let herself go on that dancefloor and give it 100% and I can see how she enjoys it so much (even though her technique is a bit rubbish ) . I really dont get the same feeling with Nartem.
Katenutzs
18-12-2013
Originally Posted by Mr_XcX:
“I suppose so. Just think Natalie would be a fantastic champion cause she deserved it. Anyone who can stay above 30 points all series has earned the trophy IMO.”

I don't think she deserves it, she has so much dancing experience that it would have been hard o mark her lower. She has not really improved liked the others. All she has done is polish her dancing skills
Monaogg
18-12-2013
For once there seems to be some good song choices for the Show Dances.

The one I would be most worried about is Sophie's as it seems a bit on the fast Latin side for her, unless it is a series of lifts, which could then reduce the impact of the Charleston in the next round.

Natalie's music should appeal to Len and I suspect there will be a jazz style to the dance.

Both Susanna & Abbey seem to be doing the "drama" songs. How much of that can be conveyed in 90 seconds we will have to see. Susanna song will always make me think of the Billy Paul version. which I prefer to Elton's original.
Stuart25
18-12-2013
Originally Posted by Mr_XcX:
“I suppose so. Just think Natalie would be a fantastic champion cause she deserved it. Anyone who can stay above 30 points all series has earned the trophy IMO.”

Didn't work for Rachel Stevens.
Nicola123
18-12-2013
Only 1 person is ever eliminated if there is four in the final. So there is 1 winner and 2 runners up which I don't agree with. I think the competition is on at the weekend 2 previous winners versus 2 newbys. I would back the old pros artem and Brendan, although I only want natalie and artem to win. They know what they have to do to win whereas the newbys don't.
Nicola123
18-12-2013
Yeah kara and artem stayed above 30 Aswell when they won. Natalie has never been under 30 for her score.in my eyes she is the deserved winner.
Cadiva
18-12-2013
Originally Posted by Nicola123:
“Yeah kara and artem stayed above 30 Aswell when they won. Natalie has never been under 30 for her score.in my eyes she is the deserved winner.”

Then providing you pick up the phone and vote for her, or use the free online voting, you'll be doing your bit to try and ensure her victory.
_NiallDEE_
18-12-2013
I haven't really been paying that much attention this series but is there not a strong chance of Abbey being B2? Surely the fact that she was B2 so early with such a high score goes against her, unless she's grown in popularity massively since then. I think Natalie might do similarly to how Denise did in the final, having a boost and ending up in the 2nd/3rd position.
Mr_XcX
18-12-2013
@21stcentuary. Agree about the Derek comment but that's for the DWTS forum.

If I am honest I was not a Nartem fan and more Susanna but seeing Natalie get put in the bottom 2 and seeing all the comments over the weeks about her I just felt sorry for her and thought if anything she deserved a good shot at winning and should not be punished for being great.
Psychosis
18-12-2013
I seem to be in the minority here but I am most worried about Sophie Natalie will probably get a bounce from being bottom 2 last week, and Abbey seems to have grown in popularity. Susanna is ostensibly the favourite, which leaves Sophie as the unknown quantity.
edy10
18-12-2013
I still think that anything can happen this Saturday .
Mr_XcX
18-12-2013
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“I seem to be in the minority here but I am most worried about Sophie Natalie will probably get a bounce from being bottom 2 last week, and Abbey seems to have grown in popularity. Susanna is ostensibly the favourite, which leaves Sophie as the unknown quantity.”

Sophie also injured her Knee I think. The Showdance does not sound great / disco for Sophie and her latin if I am honest is awful.

Her saving grace is the Charleston. She might be great on the night, Sophie has been so unpredictable all series.
karina_
18-12-2013
Originally Posted by Nicola123:
“Only 1 person is ever eliminated if there is four in the final. So there is 1 winner and 2 runners up which I don't agree with. I think the competition is on at the weekend 2 previous winners versus 2 newbys. I would back the old pros artem and Brendan, although I only want natalie and artem to win. They know what they have to do to win whereas the newbys don't.”

Even though Kevin and especially Alijaz are experienced competition winners, although nothing like strictly, I hope they can enjoy the final and not wilt under the expectation and pressure.
Hopefully their fellow pro's will lend their support.
Logopolis
18-12-2013
Just because someone is the best dancing doesn't mean they should win. SCD is a entertainment show.
Monaogg
18-12-2013
Originally Posted by Logopolis:
“Just because someone is the best dancing doesn't mean they should win. SCD is a entertainment show.”



They should however, dance reasonably well in both styles of dance. This has been the case no matter who has won.
edy10
18-12-2013
Originally Posted by Nicola123:
“Only 1 person is ever eliminated if there is four in the final. So there is 1 winner and 2 runners up which I don't agree with. I think the competition is on at the weekend 2 previous winners versus 2 newbys. I would back the old pros artem and Brendan, although I only want natalie and artem to win. They know what they have to do to win whereas the newbys don't.”

BIB How do you know that
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