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Really disagree here. AV is a help, but doesn't patch the insecure parts of the Operating System at all.
I have a server in France - around 500 people per day try to hack into it. They never get in because it's Linux. But as soon as support for XP ends, all hackers need to do is wait for the next hotfix and reverse engineer the security flaw for XP. Most of my hacker traffic comes from Iran and China. This can involve your machine being turned into a zombie for SPAM or DDNS attacks, a host for cryptolocker. anything. Silently. If you must use XP - create a new user account that is limited and use that for general use. Set a password on an Administrator account. If you need admin rights, you can run any program as Administrator, which will prompt you for the password. This gives basic UAC-like security for XP. |
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Brilliant advise if your still using XP after April 8th.
The problem is that many people who run XP don't know/care about the end of support, and will be unaware if their PC got hijacked. |
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I'm yet to find a game that doesn't run in Windows 8, but does run in 7?
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I want full compatibility.
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Don't understand what you mean.
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Games that are written for Windows 7.
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Which all work on Windows 8?
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Quite a few graphics cards out there don't have Windows 8 in the compatibility requirements. Windows 8 needs more time in order for games and hardware to have it in its list of OSs.
Unless it's really old I would be surprised. |
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Really? Name a graphics card that doesn't have Windows 8 drivers.
Unless it's really old I would be surprised. |
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I don't know if they have Windows 8 drivers or not. I'm just saying that Windows 8 isn't in the list of OSs on some parts sites that I've been on.
It's highly unlikely that you could find a GPU worth buying that doesn't work with Windows 8 and Windows 8.1, regardless of what the requirements say. |
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I'd imagine theres plenty of drivers out there for nearly everything, probably what it is that the drivers have not been through the WHQL tests and thus have not been certified by MS but in 99.9% of cases they'll be fine
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Boy am I glad I kept my old XP partition going, for all the old programs you see.
Dug out an old bust LG DVD/HDD recorder with some stuff on that I wanted before it broke (no video output). There is one program out there that extracts old LG HDD files and it needs XP. It works a treat!
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Latest advice from Windows.....
[LIST][*] Microsoft has provided support for Windows XP for 12 years—longer than any previous Windows operating system. [*]The time has come for us, along with our hardware and software partners, to invest our resources toward supporting more recent technologies so that we can continue to deliver great, new experiences. [*][*] What this means for you If you continue to use Windows XP after support ends, your computer may still work but will become vulnerable to security risks and viruses. [*] And as more software and hardware manufacturers continue to optimize for more recent versions of Windows, a greater number of programs and devices like cameras and printers won’t work with Windows XP. [*][*] Secure your personal data We want your personal data to stay secure. [*]To ensure it stays secure you'll need to either upgrade your XP machine to the new Windows (which may not work, learn more) or get a new Windows PC. [*]If you get a new Windows PC we'll help you migrate your data for free. [*] We're here to help No matter which upgrade path you choose, we're here to help. [*]If you still need answers, check out our top questions about XP support ending. And if you're concerned about losing your personal data when you upgrade, we can help you transfer it for free. [/LIST] |
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I've only had the pop up once since support ends for XP soon and that's when i put the security update in.
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Well, got my new shiny PC yesterday, complete and installed with windows 7.
Am setting things up as I go, firstly I installed Avast, malwarebytes and the windows 7 needed 147 security etc upgrades from microsoft. Over the next week or so, I'll be putting office, CD burning software and other utilities etc onto it as I go. I am happy with it, tbh, its a shame it was needed though as I would have quite happily plodded along with xp for a few more years if not for microsoft pulling their money making scams. The one thing I find irritating at the moment, although I'm sure I will get used to it, is the different ie smaller, fonts and icons etc in windows 7, and the presentation of folders etc, especially the fonts and icons some are smaller and some are larger despite trying all the alternatives I can find. And you can't switch off the screen saver, which is trivial but I've never used one before. |
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Well, got my new shiny PC yesterday, complete and installed with windows 7.
Am setting things up as I go, firstly I installed Avast, malwarebytes and the windows 7 needed 147 security etc upgrades from microsoft. Over the next week or so, I'll be putting office, CD burning software and other utilities etc onto it as I go. I am happy with it, tbh, its a shame it was needed though as I would have quite happily plodded along with xp for a few more years if not for microsoft pulling their money making scams. The one thing I find irritating at the moment, although I'm sure I will get used to it, is the different ie smaller, fonts and icons etc in windows 7, and the presentation of folders etc, especially the fonts and icons some are smaller and some are larger despite trying all the alternatives I can find. And you can't switch off the screen saver, which is trivial but I've never used one before. |
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Well, got my new shiny PC yesterday, complete and installed with windows 7.
Am setting things up as I go, firstly I installed Avast, malwarebytes and the windows 7 needed 147 security etc upgrades from microsoft. Over the next week or so, I'll be putting office, CD burning software and other utilities etc onto it as I go. I am happy with it, tbh, its a shame it was needed though as I would have quite happily plodded along with xp for a few more years if not for microsoft pulling their money making scams. The one thing I find irritating at the moment, although I'm sure I will get used to it, is the different ie smaller, fonts and icons etc in windows 7, and the presentation of folders etc, especially the fonts and icons some are smaller and some are larger despite trying all the alternatives I can find. And you can't switch off the screen saver, which is trivial but I've never used one before. Employing a specific team to retrofit security patches for an ancient operating system for an extended period of time, outside the original software life cycle has cost Microsoft millions. Comments like that show that you have absolutely no idea how software works. Operating systems need a full replacement every few years - there's only so many times you can patch them up before it's easier to rewrite the problematic sections of code base completely. |
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Boy am I glad I kept my old XP partition going, for all the old programs you see.
Dug out an old bust LG DVD/HDD recorder with some stuff on that I wanted before it broke (no video output). There is one program out there that extracts old LG HDD files and it needs XP. It works a treat! ![]() |
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Why are people saying they are not willing to spend £400 - £500 on a new laptop... When a decent spec laptop with Windows 8.1 cost just under £400 anyways?
Like this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Aspire-...rd_i=429886031 Or this one for under £300 : http://www.amazon.co.uk/X102BA-10-1-...bs_429886031_7 This one has 1TB hard drive and 6gb of ram for just over £300 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-X550CA-...bs_429886031_8 Seriously... the "I'm a student so I can't afford to upgrade" argument just doesn't wash with me I'm afraid. But good luck using your old machine. Just don't complain about the lack of support. Surely no one can expect Microsoft to carry on supporting a system that is over a decade old? No matter how many people use it, it's old and they are a business. |
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Really disagree here. AV is a help, but doesn't patch the insecure parts of the Operating System at all.
I have a server in France - around 500 people per day try to hack into it. They never get in because it's Linux. But as soon as support for XP ends, all hackers need to do is wait for the next hotfix and reverse engineer the security flaw for XP. Most of my hacker traffic comes from Iran and China. This can involve your machine being turned into a zombie for SPAM or DDNS attacks, a host for cryptolocker. anything. Silently. If you must use XP - create a new user account that is limited and use that for general use. Set a password on an Administrator account. If you need admin rights, you can run any program as Administrator, which will prompt you for the password. This gives basic UAC-like security for XP. Use a limited user account in XP for daily use. WHY: Malicious programs cannot install themselves on your machine if you are using a Limited user account. 7 ways to make Windows XP more secure In terms of good antivirus software and capable firewalls, I'd suggest looking here http://www.av-test.org/en/home/ and here http://www.matousec.com/projects/pro...64/results.php. |
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It looks like the Indian banking system will be ditching XP in favour of a Linux distro for their ATM's after April 8th.
http://thehackernews.com/2014/03/ind...ux-rather.html |
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That is indeed good and wise advice for anyone who still has to use XP for whatever reason and it's also echoed in the advice below:
Use a limited user account in XP for daily use. WHY: Malicious programs cannot install themselves on your machine if you are using a Limited user account. 7 ways to make Windows XP more secure In terms of good antivirus software and capable firewalls, I'd suggest looking here http://www.av-test.org/en/home/ and here http://www.matousec.com/projects/pro...64/results.php. |
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That is indeed good and wise advice for anyone who still has to use XP for whatever reason and it's also echoed in the advice below:
Use a limited user account in XP for daily use. WHY: Malicious programs cannot install themselves on your machine if you are using a Limited user account. 7 ways to make Windows XP more secure In terms of good antivirus software and capable firewalls, I'd suggest looking here http://www.av-test.org/en/home/ and here http://www.matousec.com/projects/pro...64/results.php. |
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Kaspersky scored the highest in the first link by not generating a false positive in December. ....
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Lack of false positives usually means new zero day malware has an easier time of hiding from the AV.
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