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Old 01-04-2014, 15:04
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A few years ago i did win 98 in a VM and it still patched itself so i'd imagine they'll leave it alone as far as possible
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Old 02-04-2014, 00:04
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Old 02-04-2014, 13:53
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XP still has 27% of market share
http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2014...-xp-still-27/?
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Old 02-04-2014, 17:01
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pse be gentle with me ds peeps

i've just had this warning appear on my pc re windows XP its the first i knew of it

any advice pse on what i need to download i don't really use my pc for games

thanks
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Old 02-04-2014, 17:12
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There is no need to do anything if you don't want to, all thats happening is that MS won't be doing any more updates for it, theres many options such as putting on a version of windows still being supported (vista/7/8/8.1) or even linux but nothing will happen to your machine when support runs out (no sudden bursting into fire, declaring its love for the washing machine) and so long as you have a decent anti virus and malware protection and don't do anything stupid you should be reasonably fine
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Old 02-04-2014, 17:28
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okey dokey thats fine

ill put the bottle of vodka away then lol
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Old 02-04-2014, 21:03
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Yep, Windows 8/8.1 still lags way behind both 7 and XP and that's an indictment of the Win 8 operating system. I only hope that they learn those lessons when it comes to Win 9.

There is no need to do anything if you don't want to, all thats happening is that MS won't be doing any more updates for it, theres many options such as putting on a version of windows still being supported (vista/7/8/8.1) or even linux but nothing will happen to your machine when support runs out (no sudden bursting into fire, declaring its love for the washing machine) and so long as you have a decent anti virus and malware protection and don't do anything stupid you should be reasonably fine
The only other thing I'd suggest is a decent third party firewall as well if someone's sticking with XP (see https://www.google.co.uk/#q=best+third+party+firewall). As for not doing stupid things, it's avoiding the usual dubious suspects such as torrents, porno, Russian websites, etc. Something like Web of Trust or MacAfee Site Advisor might help in avoiding such sites.
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Old 03-04-2014, 16:17
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I am a 'pensioner' out of touch with computer 'people' and use my computer running Windows XP just for my own use - no games, etc just WP and Internet. So no-one to ask for advice or talk over my options. I know I have a decision to make and wondered what your thoughts are

I used to have a McAfee subscription, for years, but always seemed to be having issues when updates came through. Had to pay £50 for help but will not go back to them after all the issues, so, have been running Microsoft Security Essentials and Malware Bytes AntiMalware.

I too have had the warning and my PC also states unprotected with Microsoft Security Essentials. My computer Dell Inspiron 530S has suited me fine but has been 'playing up' lately and am now wondering whether to pay someone to upgrade it/service it or go out and buy new machine.

Thoughts would be appreciated - thank you.
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Old 03-04-2014, 21:53
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a 530s is a xp/vista machine but slap it up to 4gb and you could run win 7 nicely but at the same time you have to consider the chance of hardware failure due to age, there must be plenty of people around who'll help with some good advice locally and who knows there may be someone a few miles away on here
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Old 03-04-2014, 22:30
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Thank you - so to upgrade to 4 gb and install Win 7 might be worth a try. I know sometimes the disc drive, that I hardly use, can get stuck sometimes and needs a few arrempts and then it will open. Apart from that I have used it everyday - so - it could be getting tired I suppose.

Also, not sure what i am talking about but would it need an upgrade with its processor?
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Old 03-04-2014, 22:50
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..Also, not sure what i am talking about but would it need an upgrade with its processor?
No, you already have a dual core processor so it will run fine.

On the anti-virus software front you can download Avira for free which will support XP for another year at least, if you decide against upgrading. Microsoft Security Essentials is not so good as it use to be in protection anyway (you would need to uninstall MSE). http://www.avira.com/en/index
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Old 04-04-2014, 09:08
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Thank you. Should I uninstall MS Essentials first from remove programs? Then click on the link you gave?

In the meantime maybe I just ask someone in our local paper, who advertise and will come to my home, to provide me with a quote. I think it might be better to watch what they are doing rather than leave my machine.
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Old 04-04-2014, 10:29
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Update

I un-installed first and then downloaded Avira. Should I also download the Avira Browser Safety? I still have the Malwarebytes Anti-Malware installed.

Please could you point me in the direction on this forum to discuss pro's and con's of 'makes/styles/Win8' on computers. I have been pleased with my 19" screen but as it is a 'tower' I suppose it is time to change to 'laptop' or whatever they are called. I do like the large monitor though. So would appreciate some thoughts.
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Old 06-04-2014, 00:26
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There is no need to do anything if you don't want to, all thats happening is that MS won't be doing any more updates for it, theres many options such as putting on a version of windows still being supported (vista/7/8/8.1) or even linux but nothing will happen to your machine when support runs out (no sudden bursting into fire, declaring its love for the washing machine) and so long as you have a decent anti virus and malware protection and don't do anything stupid you should be reasonably fine
I thought the dreaded Vista was no longer supported? Haha I don't think any of my XP computers will declare their love for the washing machine! I doubt they even know it's there
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Old 06-04-2014, 00:37
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Update

I un-installed first and then downloaded Avira. Should I also download the Avira Browser Safety? I still have the Malwarebytes Anti-Malware installed.

Please could you point me in the direction on this forum to discuss pro's and con's of 'makes/styles/Win8' on computers. I have been pleased with my 19" screen but as it is a 'tower' I suppose it is time to change to 'laptop' or whatever they are called. I do like the large monitor though. So would appreciate some thoughts.
No don't install the browser safety or any toolbars, use WOT to give you an idea of unsafe sites.
You don't need a laptop for Win 8. If you get Win8 you can install something like Classic Shell to make it look like Win7 without the new Metro screen.
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Old 07-04-2014, 09:25
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Thankyou LION8TIGER. So that is the Virus scan sorted.

Next issue - computer not running very well keeps stalling, etc, etc.

I have been onto DELL forum (Dell Inspiron 530s) and it sounds like another language but it seems I can install some hardware into my tower and buy Windows 7. Someone said that it could be XP issues that is causing the problems. They have advised programs to run to check hardware, etc. before I do anything.

Just trying to get my head around whether this is the next stage to try before I go and buy a new computer - which I don't want to do - I like my monitor and this machine suits my needs.
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Old 07-04-2014, 10:27
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I thought the dreaded Vista was no longer supported?
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Old 07-04-2014, 14:11
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A few years ago i did win 98 in a VM and it still patched itself so i'd imagine they'll leave it alone as far as possible
Yes, they left the old version of Windows Update (for 95/98/ME) online for many years. However, this is now switched off.

What we don't know is how long Microsoft will leave the Windows Update website online for - as later versions don't use it. Presumably a year or so, as certain organizations will still receive XP updates after tomorrow (like the UK govt).
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Old 07-04-2014, 14:15
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Thankyou LION8TIGER. So that is the Virus scan sorted.

Next issue - computer not running very well keeps stalling, etc, etc.

I have been onto DELL forum (Dell Inspiron 530s) and it sounds like another language but it seems I can install some hardware into my tower and buy Windows 7. Someone said that it could be XP issues that is causing the problems. They have advised programs to run to check hardware, etc. before I do anything.

Just trying to get my head around whether this is the next stage to try before I go and buy a new computer - which I don't want to do - I like my monitor and this machine suits my needs.
You can use your old monitor with a new PC.

To see if you need to do any upgrades, run the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor

- what does it say for your current system?
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Old 07-04-2014, 18:57
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Well run that and printed off 7 pages of info. Looks like I need to perform a custom installation of 32-bit and 64-bit

It really is all 'foreign' to me but I did notice that it states ' your PC memory doesn't meet the 3 GB requirement for running Windows XP mode on 64-bit Windows 7. When running XP mode, you might experience poor performance.'

Does this last sentence explain why my computer is having problems now? Don't know what an earth I am talking about.

Sorry.............
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Old 07-04-2014, 19:20
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Well run that and printed off 7 pages of info. Looks like I need to perform a custom installation of 32-bit and 64-bit

It really is all 'foreign' to me but I did notice that it states ' your PC memory doesn't meet the 3 GB requirement for running Windows XP mode on 64-bit Windows 7. When running XP mode, you might experience poor performance.'

Does this last sentence explain why my computer is having problems now? Don't know what an earth I am talking about.

Sorry.............
Your computer shouldn't be running badly on XP. I think it already has 3GB RAM, hasn't it? (right click on 'My Computer' and select 'Properties')

Anyway, as long as the hardware is OK, it should cope with Windows 7 fine.
You may as well install the 64bit version of Windows 7 (or 8)

'XP mode' was a way of running XP within a Windows 7 install, and made it easier to run old XP programs that won't work with Windows 7.
However XP mode was only available on the 'Pro' version of Windows 7, and support for it is being dropped, at the same time as XP itself, so I wouldn't worry about that.
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Old 07-04-2014, 19:27
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that windows upgrade advisor link looks interesting.

but my comp is about 6 years old... am I wasting my time
thinking about converting it to windows 7 ?
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Old 07-04-2014, 22:52
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Well run that and printed off 7 pages of info. Looks like I need to perform a custom installation of 32-bit and 64-bit

It really is all 'foreign' to me but I did notice that it states ' your PC memory doesn't meet the 3 GB requirement for running Windows XP mode on 64-bit Windows 7. When running XP mode, you might experience poor performance.'

Does this last sentence explain why my computer is having problems now? Don't know what an earth I am talking about.

Sorry.............
That's fine - you don't need to run XP mode.

Is all of your hardware compatible?

A custom install is one where all programs and data on the pc are wiped, and Windows 7 will install from scratch. This is standard when upgrading from XP. Back up your data to an external hard drive before you upgrade.
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Old 07-04-2014, 22:52
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What final updates are microsoft releasing for XP tomorrow? any exploits being sorted out?
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Old 07-04-2014, 22:53
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that windows upgrade advisor link looks interesting.

but my comp is about 6 years old... am I wasting my time
thinking about converting it to windows 7 ?
Not at all - if it was a good pc at the time it should be fine on 7. Run the upgrade advisor and check that your hardware is compatible.
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