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Microsoft ending support for Windows XP and Windows Vista
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cnbcwatcher
09-04-2014
RIP Windows XP Thankfully I only know one or two refuseniks who can't be arsed to upgrade to anything newer. I refuse to support them
xxtimbo
09-04-2014
pc world article
go here
http://www.pcworld.com/article/21399...l-machine.html
hyperstarsponge
09-04-2014
The only thing that people miss from XP is the theme.
alanwarwic
10-04-2014
Every new OS since XP was simply a corporate method of increasing sales.
To them, giving the public what they want is of near zero use if they already have it.
emptybox
10-04-2014
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“The only thing that people miss from XP is the theme.”

I got bored of the theme after about a year. I ran Windowblinds themes on it after that.


Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“Every new OS since XP was simply a corporate method of increasing sales.
To them, giving the public what they want is of near zero use if they already have it.”

So, in your opinion, Windows 7 does not have any real improvements over XP?
IvanIV
10-04-2014
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“Every new OS since XP was simply a corporate method of increasing sales.
To them, giving the public what they want is of near zero use if they already have it.”

You can do that only partially if your software is for more than let's say 50 people, not mentioning people never really know what they want anyway.
cnbcwatcher
10-04-2014
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“The only thing that people miss from XP is the theme.”

I hated the theme at first so I used the Windows 2000 style Start menu and theme. That's what I had on my old laptop. I'm used to OSX and Windows 7 now, both of which look more modern. XP looks dated now and has done for a few years.
Jean_Daniels
10-04-2014
the web says that windows xp security ended 8/4/2014 so how come last night the yellow shield appeared when i went to turn my computer off it automaticy downloaded the security updates for the 9/4/2014 anyone else this as happened to?
Maxatoria
10-04-2014
the MSE updates have another year but only them and no other security updates
Daveoc64
10-04-2014
Originally Posted by Jean_Daniels:
“the web says that windows xp security ended 8/4/2014 so how come last night the yellow shield appeared when i went to turn my computer off it automaticy downloaded the security updates for the 9/4/2014 anyone else this as happened to?”

The last set of updates for Windows XP were released on Tuesday (08/04/2014), so seeing them the next day on your computer makes sense.

Updates that have already been released will still be available to download for at least a year.

There won't be any more updates from now on - that's what the "end of support" refers to.
Jean_Daniels
10-04-2014
Originally Posted by Daveoc64:
“The last set of updates for Windows XP were released on Tuesday (08/04/2014), so seeing them the next day on your computer makes sense.

Updates that have already been released will still be available to download for at least a year.

There won't be any more updates from now on - that's what the "end of support" refers to.”

thanks for that just wondered thats all
DJGM
10-04-2014
Basically you need to upgrade. Windows XP was a moving target for malicious hackers, now it's a sitting duck.
Jean_Daniels
10-04-2014
Originally Posted by DJGM:
“Basically you need to upgrade. Windows XP was a moving target for malicious hackers, now it's a sitting duck.”

hi basically i dont know much about software what would i upgrade to and how much would it cost
Maxatoria
10-04-2014
Originally Posted by Jean_Daniels:
“hi basically i dont know much about software what would i upgrade to and how much would it cost”

It depends from nothing upwards but without knowing what you do and what you have its impossible to give a proper assessment and surely you must know a IT geek somewhere who can pop over for a cup of tea and a few biscuits and give some honest options
radioanorak
10-04-2014
I will carry on with XP.
I use the 2 Comodo browsers so can use a virtual desktop for browsing the net. My feeling about the warnings re XP are akin to the warnings about the Millium bug. That didnt happen.
IvanIV
10-04-2014
If you have responsible browsing habits you should be safe even without MS holding your hand.
Jean_Daniels
10-04-2014
Originally Posted by IvanIV:
“If you have responsible browsing habits you should be safe even without MS holding your hand.”

hi i only use the web for ebay/banking/paypal/bigfish games i dont browse much at all i have anti virus .
s2k
10-04-2014
Originally Posted by Daveoc64:
“Updates that have already been released will still be available to download for at least a year.”

Last time I checked you could still download (previously released) updates for obsolete versions of Windows. There is no real reason for MS to remove them from their website. Same thing applies with Apple and Mac OS.
Stig
11-04-2014
Originally Posted by Jean_Daniels:
“hi i only use the web for ebay/banking/paypal/bigfish games i dont browse much at all i have anti virus .”

So how do you think you access eBay and your bank without 'browsing'?

In a few months the media will be full of stories of people getting their XP PCs hacked.
Gneiss
11-04-2014
Originally Posted by Gneiss:
“OK does anyone know how to turn that annoying pop up off without uninstalling security Essentials?”

Anyone?
njp
11-04-2014
Originally Posted by Gneiss:
“Anyone?”

Having checked on my one surviving machine with XP installed (a dual boot with Ubuntu), I don't think there is a way. The logic is that MSE is there to warn the user about threats to their computer, end-of-support is an ongoing threat, ergo the user needs to be told about it. Repeatedly.
Rowdy
11-04-2014
Originally Posted by cnbcwatcher:
“RIP Windows XP Thankfully I only know one or two refuseniks who can't be arsed to upgrade to anything newer. I refuse to support them ”

Another "refusenik" here. And I don't need support, thanks
TelevisionUser
11-04-2014
Originally Posted by IvanIV:
“If you have responsible browsing habits you should be safe even without MS holding your hand.”

...e.g. avoid torrents, porno, Russian websites and other dubious online locations.

Originally Posted by njp:
“Having checked on my one surviving machine with XP installed (a dual boot with Ubuntu), I don't think there is a way. The logic is that MSE is there to warn the user about threats to their computer, end-of-support is an ongoing threat, ergo the user needs to be told about it. Repeatedly.”

...i.e. Microsoft says that you really must upgrade to shiny new Windows 8.1 ad infinitum.
TelevisionUser
12-04-2014
For anyone still using XP, there's a useful article on the Guardian's website by Jack Schofield:

How can I use Windows XP safely now it's no longer supported?
Microsoft has shipped its final update for Windows XP, which means all the new security holes will not be patched. Nobody knows what will happen next, but malware writers are expected to target the remaining machines. If you are still running Windows XP, it would be a good idea to make it as secure as possible.
http://www.theguardian.com/technolog...nger-supported
d'@ve
13-04-2014
Originally Posted by Rowdy:
“Another "refusenik" here. And I don't need support, thanks ”

I was a refusenik (in my second dual-boot setup) but by sheer chance, last week for the first time ever in 20 years of computing, I had a short power cut (or power surge) that corrupted the operating system while using it. Although I lost no data thanks to a Linux bootable disc, nothing but nothing would make XP boot after that and I couldn't face the hassle of restoring it, so I bit the bullet and now have a nice shiny Windows 7 as my 2nd O/S.

Well after all, I do need a way to escape that pesky Windows 8 I have as my main boot, from time to time! But I am sad to lose you, o trusty Windows XP.
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