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I am still running XP.
My Windows Updates Are set for Thursday @ 9AM Yet today I have received another update.This is the 2nd one I have received since Microsoft were supposed to be ending support |
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I am still running XP.
My Windows Updates Are set for Thursday @ 9AM Yet today I have received another update.This is the 2nd one I have received since Microsoft were supposed to be ending support |
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Surely if there is no support it should not be sending info back to Microsoft.
If they now want to give any update they should supply a download link. Is that legal? |
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Surely if there is no support it should not be sending info back to Microsoft.
If they now want to give any update they should supply a download link. Is that legal? As for IE, it is a critical patch for what could be a serious exploit, so MS will want to patch every installed version of IE that is affected rather than leave it to choice. |
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This IE patch fixed a very old bug, maybe they felt remorse
They were going to fix it for those paying for the XP support anyway, they just gave this one away for free. But if they continue doing it, the paying customers may start to ask what they are actually paying for.
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XP for embedded systems is still supported for another 2 years (what they use in ATM's / Point of sale systems etc) and it was funny that they specifically mentioned it on the press release, so it was done for the embedded/pay for support people and with the press asking 24x7 it was obvious that they'd either give in or look bad and not put the patch up for everyone. Personally they should of let XP rot as they're just creating a rod for their own backs as everytime something happens on XP people will say "well you did a patch for x now surely you could just do this one for us now?"
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This IE patch fixed a very old bug, maybe they felt remorse
They were going to fix it for those paying for the XP support anyway, they just gave this one away for free. But if they continue doing it, the paying customers may start to ask what they are actually paying for. |
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IE is a quite separate product from XP though. Any payment will be for the support of XP itself
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I received the the update patch to IE earlier in the week.
The up date I had to day was for Microsoft Visual C + redistributable |
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Yes to the bit in bold but there are broad linux equivalents of paint shop pro (see http://alternativeto.net/software/pa...platform=linux) and there's a linux programme called WINE (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_%28software%29, http://www.winehq.org/about/) that (mostly) allows Windows programmes to run within the framework of a linux operating system.
The Cyberlink software should be safe in a dual boot system but there's DVD and CD burning software available for linux (see http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/03/9...tools-for.html) plus there are assorted media players available too. Quote:
I think you'd be best advised to keep XP and dual boot with Linux, then you can boot into XP when you need to use Windows programs.
By all means disconnect XP from the internet. You may find after a while that you can get by using the Linux equivalents to the Windows programs. Incidentally i uninstalled PSP and installed it on Windows 7 as i tend to have the odd glitch with networking my W7 attached printer with my XP pc - it intermittently wants to hide lol. PSP XI is working absolutely fine on W7. |
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Thanks to both for excellent answers. Yeah i'm certainly likely now to have both OS systems on for a while and not use XP on the internet. I'll have to read up on whether this dual boot means you have to turn the computer on and off to go from one to the other, unlike my three browsers where you can go from one to the other and even have all three running together very harmoniously (Google Chrome, IE and Firefox)
Incidentally i uninstalled PSP and installed it on Windows 7 as i tend to have the odd glitch with networking my W7 attached printer with my XP pc - it intermittently wants to hide lol. PSP XI is working absolutely fine on W7. Go to the relevant website, download the appropriate 32bit or 64bit operating system (see http://pcsupport.about.com/od/window...bit-64-bit.htm), burn it on to a DVD (over 700MB)/CD (under 700MB) and write the downloaded ISO file to the disk using the Imgburn software (see https://neosmart.net/wiki/burning-is...-with-imgburn/). Reboot the PC with the Linux DVD in place and the PC should run the Linix operating system from the DVD for you to try out. The preferred Linux variant can then be installed as a dual boot set up and I'd suggest googling the name of the preferred version of Linux with the words 'dual boot' to find out more. Quote:
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I must say I really do like LXLE
![]() I would have ditched XP entirely and been 100% Linux based if it weren't for an MMO that I play on XP. |
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Interesting stats.
At demise 7 was more likely to be infected than XP with Vista over 25% more likely. XP infections run at less than 1 per every 40 PCs and Vista 1 per 33. |
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Statistics are only interesting if they are reliably sourced. Otherwise, they might just be made up.
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I wonder if that 1 in 40 includes machines hidden behind firewalls etc that never see the light of the internet day?
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Sounds logical and reflects the type of user.
I lost the link but here is a different one. http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft...than-windows-8 Very different, as reported by Microsoft using maybe MSE. Detection is one third of the totals or less. 3rd parties overplay malware detection whilst MSE's higher post fix style detection maybe lowers its rate. |
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Statistics are only interesting if they are reliably sourced. Otherwise, they might just be made up.
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The Chinese government are now asking XP users there to switch to Linux.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Chine...x-441889.shtml |
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This morning:
Windows found 5 updates. One of them: Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool - May 2014 (KB890830) The others are Security Updates for Microsoft Office 2007. |
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Seems this Zero Day flaw has been there for 9 months now.
http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/zero-day...-and-counting/ I guess there could be a fair few others that Microsoft known about and have had likely ignored. |
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Apparently XP is affectively "Windows Embedded POSReady"
http://betanews.com/2014/05/26/how-t...xp-until-2019/ I imagine it will have software not on XP so the 2019 simple support trick could be an easy way to end up killing the PC. |
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Just seen prev post.
(but on Lifehacker) |
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XP still running on 25% of PC's
Win7 seems to be picking up the XP migrants. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06...way_milestone/ |
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XP still running on 25% of PC's
Win7 seems to be picking up the XP migrants. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06...way_milestone/ This also reflects what's going on locally where PC repairers are offering XP users upgrades to Win 7. |
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They were going to fix it for those paying for the XP support anyway, they just gave this one away for free. But if they continue doing it, the paying customers may start to ask what they are actually paying for.
