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Old 14-11-2014, 23:22
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Solve what exactly, he's grown up and earning so buying his dad a DVD or USB flash drive as a present just woudn't cut the mustard and anyway I'd inform him it was a waste of money when I could just download them.
I tried Ubuntu some years ago, first running from a DVD I had burned (painfully slow) and then dual booting with XP. I didn't really get on with it and also had a problem uninstalling it, it took the MBR with it so XP wouldn't boot, obviously I didn't follow the correct procedure but it put me off.
I'm sure Linux has improved a lot since then so may try again ..... but I'd rather have a wrapped up new Windows tower than a flash drive ... its bigger !!!

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I'm a slow typer as you may have gathered but yes agreed.
I see now - I meant no offence but I didn't know how old your son was.

One of the advantages of Linux is that it can be tried out first as a live DVD without installing it although it's slower that way. Some of the modern Linux OSes available today that are mentioned in this thread make for a relatively easy transition from Windows. In any event, I hope you find a safe solution that meets your needs.
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Old 15-11-2014, 00:46
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I see now - I meant no offence but I didn't know how old your son was.

One of the advantages of Linux is that it can be tried out first as a live DVD without installing it although it's slower that way. Some of the modern Linux OSes available today that are mentioned in this thread make for a relatively easy transition from Windows. In any event, I hope you find a safe solution that meets your needs.
No offence taken in the slightest and thanks for the good wishes.
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Old 06-01-2015, 01:51
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XP gains nearly a 5% market share,it's probably the previous Chinese servers they'd scratched off their list back in October got re-added .. but still .. LOL
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...rows-5-percent
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Old 02-03-2015, 10:58
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And another gain for XP this month too
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03...e_grows_again/
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Old 02-03-2015, 11:11
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I'd imagine that a lot of the market share is companies offloading their old kit to places like africa etc and they'll use whatever they can get
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Old 08-03-2015, 20:03
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Whilst on my desktop with Windows XP, I clicked a drop down menu that had 'Windows update' option, when I clicked on it, I was asked to install activex in order to view it. What are the risks of installing activex and any idea how much memory it is likely to take. My desktop is very low on memory.
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Old 09-03-2015, 00:41
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Whilst on my desktop with Windows XP, I clicked a drop down menu that had 'Windows update' option, when I clicked on it, I was asked to install activex in order to view it. What are the risks of installing activex and any idea how much memory it is likely to take. My desktop is very low on memory.
you might be interested in this -

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/w...windows-update
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Old 09-03-2015, 06:06
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Whilst on my desktop with Windows XP, I clicked a drop down menu that had 'Windows update' option, when I clicked on it, I was asked to install activex in order to view it. What are the risks of installing activex and any idea how much memory it is likely to take. My desktop is very low on memory.
If it is a genuine MS ActiveX component then you have no problems. I hope you have good antivirus just in case it is a scam.

However, the whole point of this thread is that there are no updates for Windows XP anymore, so you are wasting your time getting Windows Update to work.
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Old 09-03-2015, 10:52
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However, the whole point of this thread is that there are no updates for Windows XP anymore, so you are wasting your time getting Windows Update to work.
If daisydee has never actually used Windows Update before (hence it prompting for the ActiveX plugin to be installed) then there is quite likely there will still be a backlog of previous updates pending. It certainly wouldn't hurt to have a look.
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Old 09-03-2015, 21:29
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Thanks for replies.
Windows used to update automatically on my desktop, and I never actually noticed that it had stopped doing it. I don't use it that much, just switch it on to keep the security updated. But going through everthing at the moment to see what can be taken off the system in the hope of lightening the load.
I checked out activex on the internet and it said to only download it if you trust the site, which is Windows, so should be Ok.
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Old 10-03-2015, 10:57
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daisydee.
From your comment about the need to install activex I guess you are using Internet Explorer as your browser.
I suggest you replace it with Firefox as your default browser.
I use this version
www.sourceforge.net/projects/firefoxultimate
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Old 10-03-2015, 11:06
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daisydee.
From your comment about the need to install activex I guess you are using Internet Explorer as your browser.
I suggest you replace it with Firefox as your default browser.
I use this version
www.sourceforge.net/projects/firefoxultimate
To use the Windows Update page on XP requires IE as it depends on ActiveX controls.

But yes for regular browsing an alternative browser would be recommended if you must stick with XP. Aside from the security implications, a rapidly growing number of websites are dropping support for IE8.
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Old 10-03-2015, 12:31
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I was sorting out an old XP system recently and it downloaded the Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool for March 2015, are Microsoft still providing these for XP users?
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Old 10-03-2015, 12:40
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I was sorting out an old XP system recently and it downloaded the Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool for March 2015, are Microsoft still providing these for XP users?
Apparently, yes.
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Old 10-03-2015, 14:11
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To omnidirectional
You surely answered your own question
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Old 10-03-2015, 19:56
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I was sorting out an old XP system recently and it downloaded the Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool for March 2015, are Microsoft still providing these for XP users?
Yes, but only until summer this year after which Win XP will become even more vulnerable:

Microsoft confirmed today for ZDNet that they will continue to create and distribute the Malicious Software Removal Tool for Windows XP users until July 14, 2015. A Microsoft spokesperson said "Microsoft's Malicious Software Removal Tool is aligned with the company's antimalware engines and signatures and as such, the removal tool will continue to be provided for Windows XP through July 14, 2015.". The clarification of policy was first reported by Computerworld on Sunday, citing sources close to the company.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/microso...al-tool-on-xp/

As indicated earlier on in this thread, there are some Linux varieties, such as LXLE and Linux Lite, that will provide a much safer replacement for Windows XP and the learning curve is not too steep.
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Old 11-03-2015, 21:07
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You surely answered your own question
I suppose so! I just wondered if it was somehow a mistake as I wasn't expecting WIndows Update to download anything new for XP.
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Old 31-03-2015, 22:11
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Not really about 'more vulnerable'. An AV scan should already have detected the same stuff in the MS tool anyway
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Old 08-04-2015, 19:25
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Exactly 1 year since xp was stopped being supported.
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Old 08-04-2015, 20:15
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Exactly 1 year since xp was stopped being supported.
...and it's now down to an operating system market share of 16.94% but that's still more than the combined Win 8/8.1 market share.

Source = http://www.netmarketshare.com/operat...10&qpcustomd=0
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Old 08-04-2015, 20:26
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Exactly 1 year since xp was stopped being supported.
A year since I bought a MAC as a result having looked at windows 8 and decided No Way.

I wish I had done so earlier.
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Old 19-04-2015, 10:11
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I don't understand all the Jargon, too old. Worried about my Windows XP 10yr old Dell DeskTop. It was getting very slow. I bought a Packard Bell Tower Windows 8.1. Intel Core 15. I have found its so different to XP but a lot faster.
On Monday 20th April, I am to change from TT to BT broadband and Fibre Optic. I wish this new computer was the same or close to XP. I paid £340 for new Tower and Keyboard .
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Old 19-04-2015, 11:04
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...and it's now down to an operating system market share of 16.94% but that's still more than the combined Win 8/8.1 market share.

Source = http://www.netmarketshare.com/operat...10&qpcustomd=0
I think the daft Start screen and the stupid decision to remove the Start menu was what stopped Windows 8/8.1 to become as popular as XP and Windows 7. I don't know what Microsoft was thinking of when they decided to remove the Start menu. If they wanted to make their operating system for tablets and desktops, they should have put the Start menu (instead of the Start screen) in the desktop edition and left the Start screen in for tablets.
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Old 19-04-2015, 12:09
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For those keeping XP running for the time being, one thing to consider is how long your AV provider will continue to support it. Most have committed to do so until 2016 and some beyond. Whilst XP still has a very large user base it is obviously in their interest to provide support in order to maintain these users as a revenue stream.

Also highly recommended is to ensure other software on your machine have the latest security patches / updates installed to minimise vulnerabilities. That's easier said than done but I use free Belarc Advisor (there are probably similar products just as good or better out there) to perform a PC audit that tells me if I don't have the latest s/w versions. Not only does it do a complete inventory profile of your hardware, software and network, it also tells me all my licence keys which is really useful to have as a backup.

The below list summarises what each AV provider have said about their XP support:
AV Providers Support Information for XP
Agnitum - No end of support announced; support available until at least 2016
AVG - No end of support announced; support available until at least 2016
Avast - No end of support announced; support available until at least 2016
Avira - Support will end on 8th April 2015, Engine and signature updates until 8th April
Bitdefender - Support for home-user products available until January 2016; support for corporate products available until January 2017
Bullguard - No end of support announced; support available until at least 2016
Check Point / ZoneAlarm - No end of support announced; support available until at least 2016, possible will further extend if market demand remains high
Comodo - No end of support announced; support available until at least 2016
Emsisoft - Support available until at least April 2016, possible will further extend if market demand remains high
ESET - Support available until at least April 2017, possible will further extend if market demand remains high
Fortinet - No end of support announced; support available until at least 2016
F-Secure - No end of support announced; support available until at least 2016
G Data - Support available until at least April 2016, possible will further extend if market demand remains high
Ikarus - No end of support announced; support available until at least 2016
K7 Computing - No end of support announced; support until at least 2016
Kaspersky Lab - Support will continue at least until 2018 for consumer and at least until 2nd part of 2016 for business products, possible will further extend if market demand remains high
Kingsoft - No end of support announced; support available until at least 2016
McAfee - No end of support announced; support available until at least 2016
Microsoft (Security Essentials) - Support will end on 14th July 2015
Microworld - No end of support announced; support available until at least 2016
Norman - Support available until at least January 2016, possible will further extend if market demand remains high
Panda Security - No end of support announced; support available until at least 2016
Qihoo 360 - Support available until at least January, possible will further extend if market demand remains high
Quickheal - No end of support announced; support available until at least 2016
Sophos - Support will continue at least until December 2016, possible will further extend if market demand remains high
Symantec / Norton - Support will continue for the foreseeable future
Tencent - No end of support announced; support available until at least 2016
ThreatTrack / Vipre - Support available until at least April 2015, possible will further extend if market demand remains high
Trend Micro - Support will end on 30th January 2017
Webroot - Support available until at least April 2019, possible will further extend if market demand remains high
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Old 19-04-2015, 12:29
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I don't understand all the Jargon, too old. Worried about my Windows XP 10yr old Dell DeskTop. It was getting very slow. I bought a Packard Bell Tower Windows 8.1. Intel Core 15. I have found its so different to XP but a lot faster.
On Monday 20th April, I am to change from TT to BT broadband and Fibre Optic. I wish this new computer was the same or close to XP. I paid £340 for new Tower and Keyboard .
I'm not sure what the question was, but if you want your new PC to look and work like XP, just download Classic Shell for free.

http://www.classicshell.net
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