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I think the daft Start screen and the stupid decision to remove the Start menu was what stopped Windows 8/8.1 to become as popular as XP and Windows 7. I don't know what Microsoft was thinking of when they decided to remove the Start menu. If they wanted to make their operating system for tablets and desktops, they should have put the Start menu (instead of the Start screen) in the desktop edition and left the Start screen in for tablets.
I personally wouldn't use XP now on security grounds and Stig above is right in that there are half a dozen or more programmes now that tame Win 8/8.1 to make it look like a traditional desktop environment. |
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It wouldn't have been rocket science for Microsoft to have an initial start up configuration menu so you could tailor the operating system format to your own particular device and for desktop PCs to have a choice between the Metro or Classic Start options. Then everyone would have been happy.
. Win8 with a choice of Classic or Metro could never have been seen as a negative. |
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Well it was Microsoft trying pushing its app store as the future.
They never quite succeeded in selling a cut price Win 8 with the app store taking prime place. With the same happening with RT it has to be how we have come to get a free Windows 10 upgrade. That way they might just convert Windows 7 to the app store as the main focus, but without as much a fuss. |
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I wholeheartedly agree
Win8 with a choice of Classic or Metro could never have been seen as a negative. The idea of a one binary everywhere was a good one and was tried before in the nt4.0 pe format which didn't really work but i suppose they thought it was enough of a break to give it a trial |
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The choice of classic or metro needs to be in PC settings, Replacement for Control Panel these days.
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I finally relented and upgrade an old laptop to Windows 10.
Big mistake. First the WiFi didn't work and all the fixes on the internet did nothing - but that's no problem I thought - I'll just get a usb WiFi adapter. So I did. Then Windows did an update and now the WiFi doesn't work again. Time to bin Windows |
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First the WiFi didn't work and all the fixes on the internet did nothing - but that's no problem I thought - I'll just get a usb WiFi adapter. So I did.
Then Windows did an update and now the WiFi doesn't work again. I have to say in my particular instance I had a fair few problems going from 7 to 10 but on friends and family's computers it has been smooth sailing. At the time it was particularly awkward as it wasn't easily possible to do a clean install either. |
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I finally relented and upgrade an old laptop to Windows 10.
Big mistake. First the WiFi didn't work and all the fixes on the internet did nothing - but that's no problem I thought - I'll just get a usb WiFi adapter. So I did. Then Windows did an update and now the WiFi doesn't work again. Time to bin Windows
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Did you upgrade from XP?
![]() Unless the laptop's going to be used as a gaming machine, I'd suggest buying and trying a Linux Mint disc from Amazon or Ebay and installing that (get the correct version - 32 bit or 64 bit). |
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.I think it was a bit unfair of Microsoft not to offer Vista users a free upgrade to Win 10 because any PC or laptop that was bought with Vista pre-installed ought to be able to cope with Win 10. Vista users will eventually have to pay now to upgrade to Win 7, 8.1 or 10 or use a free Linux operating system if they want a safe and secure laptop or PC. |
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Yep, just over a year left before Vista becomes unsupported
.I think it was a bit unfair of Microsoft not to offer Vista users a free upgrade to Win 10 because any PC or laptop that was bought with Vista pre-installed ought to be able to cope with Win 10. Vista users will eventually have to pay now to upgrade to Win 7, 8.1 or 10 or use a free Linux operating system if they want a safe and secure laptop or PC. |
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Well my last computer was Vista so its lucky I could afford get a newer one when I did, Free upgrade to 10 would be nice for users of Vista. One small problem is that they put Vista support stickers on machines that are not up for Vista back in its day. Let alone Windows 10.
Vista significantly improved with the service packs but by that time the reputational damage was done and it was widely regarded as a lemon. |
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Yep, just over a year left before Vista becomes unsupported
.I think it was a bit unfair of Microsoft not to offer Vista users a free upgrade to Win 10 because any PC or laptop that was bought with Vista pre-installed ought to be able to cope with Win 10. Vista users will eventually have to pay now to upgrade to Win 7, 8.1 or 10 or use a free Linux operating system if they want a safe and secure laptop or PC. For their sanity's sake they should at least upgrade. I remember fixing someone's Vista laptop a few years ago and I nearly threw the machine against the wall. It was painful to use. Were Vista users offered free upgrades to 7 or 8.1 (or even the original W8)?
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They really should have offered Vista users free upgrades to Windows 10. I'm amazed that there are still users out there
For their sanity's sake they should at least upgrade. I remember fixing someone's Vista laptop a few years ago and I nearly threw the machine against the wall. It was painful to use. Were Vista users offered free upgrades to 7 or 8.1 (or even the original W8)?As far as I recall, I don't think Vista users were ever offered free upgrades to win 7 or 8. I think Microsoft directed people to some upgrade webpage which offered ways of getting paid upgrades but it's so long ago that I can't remember the details. |
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I agree that they should have offered free upgrades to Win 10 not least because it would help Win 10 adoption figures. In the first quarter of this year, 1.6% of desktop PC users used Vista which might still translate in to millions of users worldwide.
As far as I recall, I don't think Vista users were ever offered free upgrades to win 7 or 8. I think Microsoft directed people to some upgrade webpage which offered ways of getting paid upgrades but it's so long ago that I can't remember the details. |
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The problem with Vista was it ran on hardware that wasn't good enough. PCs that old would struggle with Windows 10. I've actually upgraded a laptop through Vista, 7, and 10, and it's really only just usable with 4GB RAM.
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Wonder if it's worth adding vista to this thread title soon, next year it's next
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Wonder if it's worth adding vista to this thread title soon, next year it's next
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Vista now been added to the end of support thread for xp as I asked for it to be added, only 4 months until this one bites the dust.
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Vista now been added to the end of support thread for xp as I asked for it to be added, only 4 months until this one bites the dust.
If anyone still uses Vista on a computer that's still connected to the internet then I'd suggest starting to look at replacement operating system options right now. For example, earlier on the year, I helped someone upgrade their laptop's operating system from Vista to Windows 7 (which is supported until spring 2020). |
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I didnt understand the panic when XP became unsupported.
I used long after & I dare say many thousands world wide are still using it now. The same will apply to Vista. |
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I had a Vista machine once but now I just use the smartphone for the internet.
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I had a Vista machine once but now I just use the smartphone for the internet.
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I didnt understand the panic when XP became unsupported.
I used long after & I dare say many thousands world wide are still using it now. The same will apply to Vista. |
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