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Originally Posted by Koll
Or just disable internet and use it as a PC to play all your old games on without compatibility problems.
forever, it can be such a hassle and you waste hours of time sodding around downloading programmes , doing virus scans.. waiting for the damn thing to boot up. You could spend your time painting , reading or learning a skill.. say playing the piano. What good did twitter ever do anyone ? |
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Tried Chrome for a while until Google screwed around with the UI. Now happy using Firefox.
Though it is typically easier to undo unwanted UI changes in Firefox than Chrome.
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watching U tube on fire fox and it broke down
.... a plug in has failed .. it said I asume that was adobe flash I went to flock browser , U tube conked on there same story in google chrome All this aggro just adds to the feeling that XP is slowly caving in beneath my feet. The freeze up on firefox was that bad even the task manager would nt come up and I had to close down the comp and reboot. Finally went on to Opera and U tube worked OK in there |
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watching U tube on fire fox and it broke down
.... a plug in has failed .. it said I asume that was adobe flash I went to flock browser , U tube conked on there same story in google chrome All this aggro just adds to the feeling that XP is slowly caving in beneath my feet. The freeze up on firefox was that bad even the task manager would nt come up and I had to close down the comp and reboot. Finally went on to Opera and U tube worked OK in there |
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watching U tube on fire fox and it broke down
.... a plug in has failed .. it said I asume that was adobe flash I went to flock browser , U tube conked on there same story in google chrome All this aggro just adds to the feeling that XP is slowly caving in beneath my feet. The freeze up on firefox was that bad even the task manager would nt come up and I had to close down the comp and reboot. Finally went on to Opera and U tube worked OK in there |
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Is there any way that us millions of xp users can upgrade to the latest operating system without too much cost or hassle ? Or for old machines use the superb LXLE operating system. Again free. |
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I know there will be exceptions that prove the rule but how many people have the same car they had 13 years ago?
I just don't understand why so many people are hanging on to something that is slowly giving up the ghost. Not knocking anyone, I genuinely don't understand it. If it's just to play old games (still no comprehension here ![]() ) Just switch of the internet and keep the old PC in a dark corner of the house and get a new one for the important things in life....![]() I hope you all find solutions to your problems, but I'm guessing things are only going to go down hill rapidly... |
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I just don't understand why so many people are hanging on to something that is slowly giving up the ghost. Not knocking anyone, I genuinely don't understand it.
Firefox & Chrome will carry on supporting there XP browsers for a while after Microsoft support has ended. |
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Another question that arises with the imminent demise of XP support is whether the banks will raise issue with its usage (with regard to online transactions)? In the event of a non-fault fraudulent transaction occurring currently the banks will reimburse the user/customer as, invariably, it is through a glitch within their own system. I do understand that the banks may take a quite different view if, say, the computer in question is not sufficiently protected with anti-virus etc.
But I have not heard or read anything about the main banks having a general view on this one way or the other, but it would be pretty easy for them to make online access inaccessible to XP users. The point here is, though, that if online banking continues for XP users are the banks not likely to withdraw reimbursement following non-fault fraudulent transaction? Perhaps they might even introduce some sort of compulsion for XPers to download their own (the banks) security software? I suppose this begs the question does anybody still use a currently unsupported OS (ME or 98, yikes) for online activity?
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Yes easy. Download and install Linux Mint 16 cinnamon edition. It is also free.
Or for old machines use the superb LXLE operating system. Again free. |
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This sounds more like you have issues with your particular Windows installation. Might be worth a fresh install as I know Flash and YouTube work fine (for the most part) on all our XP clients in work, and most of those are just using IE8 as opposed to something more modern like Chrome or Firefox.
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I know there will be exceptions that prove the rule but how many people have the same car they had 13 years ago?
I just don't understand why so many people are hanging on to something that is slowly giving up the ghost. Not knocking anyone, I genuinely don't understand it. Same with my old PC. It still works, it still does what I need it to do (although it does struggle with HD video sometimes) and I would need to spend a sum of money I cannot afford on new hardware including replacing hardware that is no longer supported by the latest software (printer, scanner, router, etc). Yes it may save me 12.4 seconds in startup time, but that doesn't concern me. Nor is my current PC "giving up the ghost". Quote:
Another question that arises with the imminent demise of XP support is whether the banks will raise issue with its usage (with regard to online transactions)?
As a bit of an aside, and not something I'm recommending, but to get round the end of support for XP is it viable to "upgrade" an XP installation to Vista which would give another three years of support? |
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If it wasn't for the fact that I wanted my build early next year for games, I'd have probably went down the Linux route. The software I use is available for Linux. Like I said though, I want my future build for games as well.
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Another question that arises with the imminent demise of XP support is whether the banks will raise issue with its usage (with regard to online transactions)? In the event of a non-fault fraudulent transaction occurring currently the banks will reimburse the user/customer as, invariably, it is through a glitch within their own system. I do understand that the banks may take a quite different view if, say, the computer in question is not sufficiently protected with anti-virus etc.
Realistically I doubt the banks would be interested in that level of technical involvement, afterall the biggest threat is always going to be the user. |
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Nt4/win2k were more business operating systems as there was 98/me available for the home consumer to play heir games on and only with XP did MS try to unify the two platforms into one so the people who are sill running NT4/2K will be businesses generally paying for the support at a healthy premium to run legacy code/equipment
I suppose we have a couple of years AV support for XP but if theres massive and easy to exploit holes found and the work to protect users is too much then i'd imagine free solutions will slowly disappear leaving the XP crowd either having to pony up or take risks |
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linux based distros used to struggle with games but this has changed greatly in the last 12 months see http://steamforlinux.com/
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Because it works. Replacing a car that is 13 years old and still working (yes there will be ongoing maintenance costs) with a new model is a costly exercise and what does it get you? Something that takes you from A to B in the same amount of time as an old car does probably just as reliably - so why change?
And despite the fact that it still takes you from A to B, most people have not kept their old cars. Good job too, it's about all that's kept the economy ticking over...
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As a bit of an aside, and not something I'm recommending, but to get round the end of support for XP is it viable to "upgrade" an XP installation to Vista which would give another three years of support?
If you do not have Vista then good luck in buying it, but why would you? Unless it was substantially cheaper than 7/8 - a bridge you have to cross again in three years. IMHO 8/7 are more polished, Vista is adequate as an OS. Vista/7/8 are all NT6.x Minimum HW requirements are very similar. 1GHz/1GB/20GB & DX9 VGA with WDDM 1.0 Recommend 2GB RAM and a dual core CPU as a realistic minimum. |
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....... Msoft will finally end extended support on 8 April 2014 – despite the fact that XP remains the second-most popular OS, with almost a third of PCs running it.......
Looks like 2014 is going to be a nightmare year for millions of xp users..... ... but then it will be a bit of a bonanza for the comp shops and techies who are asked to sort out the chaos.... thanks a bunch "Bill ...zillionaire ... Gates" We could have .... Save XP ... mass marches on Washington..... a Save XP tent city could appear inTrafalgar Square.... Bill Gates could be burned around the world in effigy . |
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....... Msoft will finally end extended support on 8 April 2014 – despite the fact that XP remains the second-most popular OS, with almost a third of PCs running it.......
Looks like 2014 is going to be a nightmare year for millions of xp users..... ... but then it will be a bit of a bonanza for the comp shops and techies who are asked to sort out the chaos.... thanks a bunch "Bill ...zillionaire ... Gates" We could have .... Save XP ... mass marches on Washington..... a Save XP tent city could appear inTrafalgar Square.... Bill Gates could be burned around the world in effigy . Although I do think that Msoft should extend their support for a number of years yet... if only for pensioners and those on tight budgets who can't afford an upgrade... Anyone who can afford it should upgrade... but I do feel sorry for those that can't fork out the cash for a new machine and Windows 7/8 |
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Although I do think that Msoft should extend their support for a number of years yet... if only for pensioners and those on tight budgets who can't afford an upgrade... Anyone who can afford it should upgrade... but I do feel sorry for those that can't fork out the cash for a new machine and Windows 7/8
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And when that deadline comes the same people will be moaning they need even more time. Extending the life of XP doesn't solve the issue, it merely kicks the problem down the road. Users have had plenty of notice, if they choose to ignore it then it is their problem. MS have to draw the line somewhere and IMO they have been fair and right to cease support for XP in April 2014 after nearly 13 years.
Mainframe/Mini computer manufacturers like IBM and HP made huge fortunes getting business to pay for years of extended support for old hardware/software. |
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It would be interesting to compare old OSX and Linux versions which are still supported.
Mainframe/Mini computer manufacturers like IBM and HP made huge fortunes getting business to pay for years of extended support for old hardware/software. |
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People are fools, I've mentioned to people still running XP that they should have moved to Windows 7 four years ago.
The biggest 'complaint' you hear is that Windows 8 'is no good'. The XP refuseniks have played into MS hands allowing them the luxury of making a pig's ear of Windows 8 - if people had upgraded to Windows 7 at the time, they'd have had time to say, "Well Steve, there's time to really go away and have a good think about your next OS" because there really is very little real reason to upgrade to 8 from 7. |
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Strange comments.
Windows 8 has surely given a massive boost to Linux. |
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Though it is typically easier to undo unwanted UI changes in Firefox than Chrome.

) Just switch of the internet and keep the old PC in a dark corner of the house and get a new one for the important things in life....