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Thanks for your viewpoint on last night Jennifer!
It's great to hear the views of the well informed, and also, those that are passionate about dance, even in an armchair capacity. You guys have made this a great SCD series for me - thanks so much for taking the time to share your knowledge and geek out collectively. Friday night I went swing dancing with a friend that is a gold medal Latin dancer, she very graciously demo'd some basics for me, I absolutely loved the Rhumba basics, the arms, the extended torque in the torso, amazing. Such a privilege to get a new perspective on SCD. You've all really inspired me to care about such things! This year I will be trying out AT, thanks to An, Henry and Sofakat - I don't expect to have the time to do it justice but any new perspective on lead and follow will inform my own dancing and I'm super excited to learn more. Thanks again, SCD internet chums, you've been grand! |
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Thanks for your viewpoint on last night Jennifer!
It's great to hear the views of the well informed, and also, those that are passionate about dance, even in an armchair capacity. You guys have made this a great SCD series for me - thanks so much for taking the time to share your knowledge and geek out collectively. Friday night I went swing dancing with a friend that is a gold medal Latin dancer, she very graciously demo'd some basics for me, I absolutely loved the Rhumba basics, the arms, the extended torque in the torso, amazing. Such a privilege to get a new perspective on SCD. You've all really inspired me to care about such things! This year I will be trying out AT, thanks to An, Henry and Sofakat - I don't expect to have the time to do it justice but any new perspective on lead and follow will inform my own dancing and I'm super excited to learn more. Thanks again, SCD internet chums, you've been grand! |
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Thanks for your viewpoint on last night Jennifer!
It's great to hear the views of the well informed, and also, those that are passionate about dance, even in an armchair capacity. You guys have made this a great SCD series for me - thanks so much for taking the time to share your knowledge and geek out collectively. Friday night I went swing dancing with a friend that is a gold medal Latin dancer, she very graciously demo'd some basics for me, I absolutely loved the Rhumba basics, the arms, the extended torque in the torso, amazing. Such a privilege to get a new perspective on SCD. You've all really inspired me to care about such things! This year I will be trying out AT, thanks to An, Henry and Sofakat - I don't expect to have the time to do it justice but any new perspective on lead and follow will inform my own dancing and I'm super excited to learn more. Thanks again, SCD internet chums, you've been grand! Have fun with AT. I took it up just this time last year inspired by Vincent and Dani - and a few others in previous years. |
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Time to ask. What's all this about medals?
Have fun with AT. I took it up just this time last year inspired by Vincent and Dani - and a few others in previous years. Medals are examined levels in Ballroom and Latin. Not something we have to worry about in the vernacular dances!
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Time to ask. What's all this about medals?
Have fun with AT. I took it up just this time last year inspired by Vincent and Dani - and a few others in previous years. A great way to thoroughly learn technique and the basic and standard steps that form the basis of any dance, whatever standard you are. Many of the competitors, myself included, dance on the open circuit having had the grounding in technique first. Once you have this firm understanding, think of the foundations of a house, you can then build upon it, and learn to actually dance properly using the correct action. |
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Thanks Henry!
Medals are examined levels in Ballroom and Latin. Not something we have to worry about in the vernacular dances! ![]() Quote:
When you learn to dance, you have the opportunity to take medal test if you wish. There are various syllabus that sets out techniques and basic steps for you to learn. You then take a medal test, and then progress to the next level, pre-bronze,bronze, silver, gold and above. If you compete at medal competitions, you will compete against competitors of the same grade.
A great way to thoroughly learn technique and the basic and standard steps that form the basis of any dance, whatever standard you are. Many of the competitors, myself included, dance on the open circuit having had the grounding in technique first. Once you have this firm understanding, think of the foundations of a house, you can then build upon it, and learn to actually dance properly using the correct action. Thanks so much both of you. Now I know. |
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I'm so glad I wasn't the only one wondering where Natalie's [supposedly improved] hip action was. I sat there saying I could probably produce better hip action (and latin is not so much my bag in spite of what my medal test scores suggest). Though maybe that would be the case anyway coming from a medallist background.
I try to look for the technical elements but I consistently find myself getting nauseous at whizzycam man and frustrated by the close up head shots. I want to see their feet! I don't always spot technical elements anyway when I can see them. I'm waiting to hear back Wysiwyg's report of the final as she was there and often the view from the studio floor sheds a completely different light on the dances/dancers(wysiwyg is a dance teacher who posts on the Norty step). |
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Found this to be a little " skippy" as too high out of legs and floor. The foot work that I saw was not precise and clean enough.
Her neck still looked wrong, needs to be stretched on both sides more. Left arm and hand not overly good, back looked a little heavy with right shoulder lifting at times.Better projection needed. Good effort though in a very difficult technical dance. One personn an examiner with the idta posted When was sway introduced in reverse turns and dancing clock wise ? and never realised that they were doing that until he pointed it out - also mentioned how Brendan's shoulders were up her thought because she was hard to get round the floor. the teacher posting was a great competitor in his day and just those few comments opened my eyes to the V"W and the mistakes I had not seen Some great comments from dancers in Australia who used to compete here and watch our scd over dwts am trying to get some of them to post on this thread particularly the judges and examiners enjoyed your write ups Jen thankyou |
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thought i would share this on my facebook last night for first time some dance teachers / judges and examiners were in and watching scd as their classes and stuff over for christmas - they were pointed out thinngs I had not noticed for weeks.
One personn an examiner with the idta posted When was sway introduced in reverse turns and dancing clock wise ? and never realised that they were doing that until he pointed it out - also mentioned how Brendan's shoulders were up her thought because she was hard to get round the floor. the teacher posting was a great competitor in his day and just those few comments opened my eyes to the V"W and the mistakes I had not seen Some great comments from dancers in Australia who used to compete here and watch our scd over dwts am trying to get some of them to post on this thread particularly the judges and examiners enjoyed your write ups Jen thankyou |
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Jennifer, I've enjoyed your write ups too. Haven't had time to go back and look at the dances. I'm not very observant when it comes to these things. I have to play back on i player.
![]() Interesting feedback bendy. |
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I'm so glad I wasn't the only one wondering where Natalie's [supposedly improved] hip action was. I sat there saying I could probably produce better hip action (and latin is not so much my bag in spite of what my medal test scores suggest). Though maybe that would be the case anyway coming from a medallist background.
I try to look for the technical elements but I consistently find myself getting nauseous at whizzycam man and frustrated by the close up head shots. I want to see their feet! I don't always spot technical elements anyway when I can see them. I'm waiting to hear back Wysiwyg's report of the final as she was there and often the view from the studio floor sheds a completely different light on the dances/dancers(wysiwyg is a dance teacher who posts on the Norty step). I will watch out for the post/s by wysiwyg, will be very interesting reporting back from seeing it live. |
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Jennifer, I've enjoyed your write ups too. Haven't had time to go back and look at the dances. I'm not very observant when it comes to these things. I have to play back on i player.
![]() Interesting feedback bendy. This is why, when you compete, first impressions really count. You have to aim for consistency so the end of your dance is as good as the start, for you never know when the judge is looking. |
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Here are some of the dance related threads. I know there are more which can be linked via this master thread.
Argentine Tango Talk http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1920506 Argentine Tango Music http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1763697 Salsa Talk http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1923390 Salsa Music http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1763494 Why dance? http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1765941 Can do a dodgy dance to decent music; but can't do a decent dance to dodgy music http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1920564 |
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I just want to thank all of you who contributed to this thread and those who tried on previous threads to bring a little sanity into the madness of these boards.
I have learned a lot, come to appreciate Charleston, got some tips for taking care of my feet and legs so I can dance more and had some delightful conversations with some wonderful people (and Henry - only joking H!) and some belly laughs too. What could be nicer? I hope to catch you all before you all disperse. I haven't gone completely but I have one more dance this afternoon and then I will hang up my suede soles for the year and focus on Christmas. I don't think it will be well attended Milonga so as we will have space a friend and I are planning to experiment and try to dance an AT to this.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yGepLq77Oc. Not everyone's cup of tea and it may not work. But I was a Floydy before I danced so am keen to see if I can put my musical tastes together. Anyway enough waffle. Thank you all so much for your friendship and fun over recent weeks. It has made the series, which already feels like it was a brilliant one despite my various quibbles - the retrospective rose tinted specs are already on, so much more enjoyable. Hope you all have a lovely time at Christmas and I wish you all the happiest of new years. Dance your socks off folks xxxx ![]() As a PS, I think an AT to Floyd would be awesome, one of my all time favourite bands. |
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How did I miss this thread
![]() ![]() So many insightful comments about the final, contestants and of course dance. Urghhhhh !!! Thank you to everyone who contributed to this thread. I enjoyed reading some of the posts
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How did I miss this thread
![]() ![]() So many insightful comments about the final, contestants and of course dance. Urghhhhh !!! Thank you to everyone who contributed to this thread. I enjoyed reading some of the posts ![]() I think that some still did not get the general idea, it was still seen as "sniping at...." However, many posters seemed to enjoy the thread. It was interesting to me, to see input about Argentine Tango and Salsa, for example, dances about which, I know very little. |
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How did I miss this thread
![]() ![]() So many insightful comments about the final, contestants and of course dance. Urghhhhh !!! Thank you to everyone who contributed to this thread. I enjoyed reading some of the posts ![]() |
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Here is a film dance medley set to an old Venezuelan / (Colombian?) song - El aņo viejo
The singer Ximena Borges here though sings all the voices and simulates the instrumentation http://youtu.be/C6AYUoyA53w |
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Here is a film dance medley set to an old Venezuelan / (Colombian?) song - El aņo viejo
The singer Ximena Borges here though sings all the voices and simulates the instrumentation http://youtu.be/C6AYUoyA53w http://youtu.be/8hlTvOBZRpc |
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Dipso Calypso
I am sure I have seen a dance to Dipso Calypso by Buscemi but can't find it mentioned on this forum or on youtube?
Does it seem familiar in a dance contect to anyone? Dipso Calypso http://youtu.be/5D0c9PM3cQI |
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I am sure I have seen a dance to Dipso Calypso by Buscemi but can't find it mentioned on this forum or on youtube?
Does it seem familiar in a dance contect to anyone? Dipso Calypso http://youtu.be/5D0c9PM3cQI |
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I'm really not au fait with anything other than the usual 10 dance ballroom/latin, so perhaps others can answer, but could you salsa to this,? it seems to have the a 1,2,3 - a,1,2,3 beat ?
It is a calypso beat (gorgeous) so it's a fast salsa, but yes, you could get away with it if you know what you're doing. Cuban salsa, including the 'pause' is counted out as 123 4 567.I'd dance Cali to it, with a bit of bossa nova! It's a terrific track. |
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Yes, you could Jennifer - if you stuck to either Cali or Cuban salsa and keep your steps small
It is a calypso beat (gorgeous) so it's a fast salsa, but yes, you could get away with it if you know what you're doing. Cuban salsa, including the 'pause' is counted out as 123 4 567.I'd dance Cali to it, with a bit of bossa nova! It's a terrific track. |
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That sounds very fast. So what would be a typical tempo salsa? I ask because I may be learning some salsa this year and very fast dances are not my forte!
Sorry, I don't even know what style it will be. It is part of some unpartnered formation latin we're doing (apologies to those who hate the idea of formation latin but it is just a bit of fun and a diversion from my normal dancing).
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That sounds very fast. So what would be a typical tempo salsa? I ask because I may be learning some salsa this year and very fast dances are not my forte!
Sorry, I don't even know what style it will be. It is part of some unpartnered formation latin we're doing (apologies to those who hate the idea of formation latin but it is just a bit of fun and a diversion from my normal dancing).http://youtu.be/5D0c9PM3cQI?t=30s Just tried it (sitting down) and it allows for grinding into and out of the floor and hip movements. "Latin formation" sounds very "Home Counties South" but it is quite common in Salsa as "Rueda de Casino" [Roulette wheel] http://youtu.be/fxcAg6Wom9w It looks fully choreographed but there is a leader calling the series of sequences Same song another rueda http://youtu.be/YqP3pRXmf50 Here is one in Cuba http://youtu.be/yS58jwxQPFg Another Rueda http://youtu.be/W4dEEpea1yM Rueda with the calls in subtitles (it helps if you can understand Spanish to know what the terms mean) http://youtu.be/6s2IVHrPNCc |
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