[Andrew_Walmlsey]

Hi, i have the Panasonic 735 blu ray HD/DVD recorder
I have tried to copy HD from the HDD to blu ray (panasonics BD discs) and finslalised. They only play on the Panny not 2 of my Sony Blu ray players
The manual is just a mish mash of recording formats and file conversions you can select. I do know generally about these things but its beyond me how they expect joe public to figure all this.
All i know is the recordings are in HD and are in HD on finalized DVD, and it will not let me select the AVHCD to DVD, to try as another option, says the BD disc is not correct, formatted or unformatted
Can anyone tell me
1.What discs do i need
2.What to select to copy in HD to play on other players
3.Do i need to file convert these before copying ?
I am not contacting Panny as i have done before and is generally a waste of time
Any help very gratefully recd in this festive season so as i can keep a couple of decent films for the future!
Regds
Andrew

[grahamlthompson]

In common with other Freesat/Freeview kit, the recordings (including those copied to Blu-ray) are locked to the box that created them for DRM licensing reasons. You therefore cannot put recordings on Blu-ray with this kit, that will play on other players. You would need a box capable of recording HD without encryption, or a way of decrypting afterwards, a PC with a Blu-ray recording drive. The Humax Foxsat-hdr or the HDR FOX T2 running the custom firmware add on could be used to create the required HD files.

[Andrew_Walmlsey]

Thanks Graham, if thats the case its fairly pointless having recordable HD disc to put stuff on, as soon as the box becomes defunct/ and or HDD fails they may very well not play again
I have noted your comments re Humax, and if when i purchase new box i will do more homework!
Regds

[skinj]

Hi Andrew. You have been misled by Graham sadly. I am sat here now watching a recording I've just made from the HDD to a Blu-ray from BBC1 HD & BBC2 HD. It was copied over to a BD-R at high speed in original quality and is playing back fine on a Panasonic SC-BTT230 home cinema system. It did not play back on a Panasonic DMP-BDT130 Blu-ray player however as this is not designed to play back recorded Blu-ray discs. The menus came up and the file were there but the machine would not read them.
The reason your Sony machines can't read the recordable disc is probably because they have never been designed to do so. Check the instruction books for Sony machines to see if they can read/playback BD-R discs or not.

What you will find is that some content on Freeview HD is blocked from being copied in HD by the broadcaster/copyright holder or may only allow a single HD copy to be made. Normally these can be copied at normal SD quality instead though. This is what we have been told by Panasonic.
The instructions book on page 56 states
"The recorded titles indicated with (a logo) icon can
be copied to the disc in high definition quality
mode (Original Picture Quality, HG, HX, HE, HL or
HM) once.
After completing copy, the titles on the HDD
cannot be copied to the disc anymore in high
definition quality mode and the icon is changed to
(another logo).
The titles copied to the discs cannot be copied
again."

[grahamlthompson]

Apologies for the mis-information. However no problem in playback of Blu-ray blanks in my Sony Blu-ray player or a PS3. I make them quite frequently using HD content from my Sony HD camcorders and a Nikon DSLR. I don't bother with optical discs for TV recordings, much easier to either stream them across my network or copy them to usb harddrives.

Both players will also play back AVCHD (1080i 1920 x 1080 on DVD blanks)

[Andrew_Walmlsey]

Thank you both for the info in the fact its the player thats the issue here, and the detailed info, and no problem Graham. I had managed to copy HD of star wars from itv that only allowed one copy in HD so was miffed i cannot even try again if i had made a fault in copying wrongly.
I will check specs before i purchase yet another player now !
Regds

[jonathonp]

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Originally Posted by Andrew_Walmlsey

Hi, i have the Panasonic 735 blu ray HD/DVD recorder
I have tried to copy HD from the HDD to blu ray (panasonics BD discs) and finslalised. They only play on the Panny not 2 of my Sony Blu ray players
The manual is just a mish mash of recording formats and file conversions you can select. I do know generally about these things but its beyond me how they expect joe public to figure all this.
All i know is the recordings are in HD and are in HD on finalized DVD, and it will not let me select the AVHCD to DVD, to try as another option, says the BD disc is not correct, formatted or unformatted
Can anyone tell me
1.What discs do i need
2.What to select to copy in HD to play on other players
3.Do i need to file convert these before copying ?
I am not contacting Panny as i have done before and is generally a waste of time
Any help very gratefully recd in this festive season so as i can keep a couple of decent films for the future!
Regds
Andrew

Hi Andrew,
I have gained a bit of knowhow on these Panasonic Bluray models over several generations. Currently the latest I have is a 720 which preceded the 735. I think a great deal of the procedures are similar so I'll just mention a few as a possible help.

1. Bluray Dics burned from any broadcast material recorded to the unit's HDD are in what Panasonic call DR format.This really means that it is exactly the same as that broadcast i.e no in-unit compression, has subtitles, audio description if broadcast, etc.
These Blurays, BD-R usually, will play on these and some other units which support the DR format.

It is however possible to convert the DR titles to a format that may be much more compatible and although it is done in "real time" these units can be set to convert in standby automatically.
Lets say that you have a BBC HD programme that normally has no limit to the number of copies to BD, then when you select the option to "DR Conversion" the choice is Convert Only or Convert and Delete. Using the Convert Only you can keep the HDD original DR and have an additional converted version alongside in whatever quality chosen.

If the recording, say ITV HD has a once only limit, then the Convert and Delete is mandatory.

2. Other Points:
HD broadcast recordings can only be copied to BD-R or BD-RE in any of the HD formats.
AVCD titles can be burned to BD or DVD-R (minus is absolutely required) from the HDD. I have AVCD titles originating on a Panasonic HD cancorder which copy from the SD card to the units HDD. Then to burn to DVD-R, load a brand new unformatted DVD-R into the disc drawer. options come up automatically including burn AVCD files to DVD. This DVD is HD quality and can only play in Bluray Players.

Hope this is of help

jon