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Why did the judges choose Nat's and Artems chacha?
amelia_lee
22-12-2013
Not that it wasn't a good dance and it made me smile last night, but I think there was quite a few dances the judges could have chosen for them that were a bit better.

I loved their rumba and waltz in particular.

I also would have loved for them to do their jive, I thought they said on it takes two (Zoe) that the production were looking to see if they could do it if they got to the final.

I wanted to add, I think it may of been that that just cost her the title, because everywhere I look everyone's talking about her other two dances, even people who I know who don't like the show loved them. Maybe something a little more personable would have given her more of an edge.
dippydancing
22-12-2013
Originally Posted by amelia_lee:
“Not that it wasn't a good dance and it made me smile last night, but I think there was quite a few dances the judges could have chosen for them that were a bit better.

I loved their rumba and waltz in particular.

I also would have loved for them to do their jive, I thought they said on it takes two (Zoe) that the production were looking to see if they could do it if they got to the final.

I wanted to add, I think it may of been that that just cost her the title, because everywhere I look everyone's talking about her other two dances, even people who I know who don't like the show loved them. Maybe something a little more personable would have given her more of an edge.”



The party line is that the judges choose a dance they think the couple could show improvement on, which is borne out in choosing Natalie's and Abbey's dances from week 1. Susanna's QS is far more recent, but apparently the judges thought she could improve the footwork. I'm not sure what their reasoning would have been on Sophie's Waltz, since it was both recent, and one of her best, although they'd probably say that she needed to sort out her neck. Although that criticism would have applied to all of her ballroom.

So yes- N&A had many other better dances, but since they all scored better, that's probably why they weren't chosen.
Monkseal
22-12-2013
It's also a possibility that they felt there should be some upbeat party latin in the final, and it wasn't going to come from any of the other three.
Alli-F
22-12-2013
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“It's also a possibility that they felt there should be some upbeat party latin in the final, and it wasn't going to come from any of the other three.”



Awww, come on, who didn't want to see the Susanna samba again? It would have been epic, but not necessarily in a good way.
ESPIONdansant
22-12-2013
The cha cha CHAAAR is a little-loved child in the dance-family where viewers are concerned so I don't think it did them any favours.

But then I thought Abbey should have been asked to revisit her jive.
Sweetiecat
22-12-2013
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“
But then I thought Abbey should have been asked to revisit her jive.”

I thought this too.
Jambob
22-12-2013
Seemed like a missed opportunity not to have the jive. I can only imagine they decided it would be unfair on the other contestants for Natalie to perform an unseen dance.

I thought the judges choices for Natalie and Sophie did them both a disservice. The Cha-cha-cha was an underwhelming routine with dodgy staging and Sophie's Viennese Waltz put her in direct competition with Abbey's stunning posture and the top-line of doom.
WallyWall2013
22-12-2013
It was a really good dance, but one of her only not-so-great or amazing dances, therefore she could have improved on it. I was never too fond of the actual routine/song choice but I thought she did improve on it. I would have LOVED to have seen her Rumba again as that was one of my favorites from her, but there's not much she could have improved on that dance.
auntiem
22-12-2013
I also thought the judges should have asked Natalie to do the Jive that she missed. IMO this could be one reason why she lost votes, as given her amazing recovery from a back injury, she still hadn't performed it, and if I remember correctly from the VT, it was the dance she was struggling with.
Alli-F
22-12-2013
Originally Posted by auntiem:
“I also thought the judges should have asked Natalie to do the Jive that she missed. IMO this could be one reason why she lost votes, as given her amazing recovery from a back injury, she still hadn't performed it, and if I remember correctly from the VT, it was the dance she was struggling with.”



It has to be a dance you performed on the show and she never performed it. It would have been an unfair advantage for her to perform a brand new routine that was so eagerly awaited too.
thenetworkbabe
22-12-2013
Originally Posted by amelia_lee:
“Not that it wasn't a good dance and it made me smile last night, but I think there was quite a few dances the judges could have chosen for them that were a bit better.

I loved their rumba and waltz in particular.

I also would have loved for them to do their jive, I thought they said on it takes two (Zoe) that the production were looking to see if they could do it if they got to the final.

I wanted to add, I think it may of been that that just cost her the title, because everywhere I look everyone's talking about her other two dances, even people who I know who don't like the show loved them. Maybe something a little more personable would have given her more of an edge.”

The whole choice of dances by both contestants and judges was strange. Natalie and Abbey both ended up with judges choices markd early in the series and low. They then avoided any of their top 4 dances - even though Susanna's choice suggested there was no time limit that kept all of them out of the options. Susanna alone got to redo her best dance, and actually went in defending the highest combined score.

That fitted in with what looked like the judge's clear agenda later. Susanna couldn't be given any less for her good dance without questions being asked. That allowed them to be positive enough to justify a possible win for her - wheras a lower scoring pair of dances, without much improvement, would have made her winning look strange. Abbey and Natalie and Sophie could then have odd marks added as they wanted to produce any order they wanted. Marks could be deducted for anyone - often with no explanation of the relationship between the comments, and the mark, and, in some cases, no comments at all to explain it. Even when there were explanations - as with Len changing his criteria on one of Natalie's dances, and mysteriously then adopting the opposite criteria with Abbey's show dance choregraphy, they often made zero sense.
jenda57
22-12-2013
The couples choose their favourite dance and the judges one that they want to see improved.
amelia_lee
22-12-2013
Originally Posted by ESPIONdansant:
“The cha cha CHAAAR is a little-loved child in the dance-family where viewers are concerned so I don't think it did them any favours.

But then I thought Abbey should have been asked to revisit her jive.”

This is my thinking too, I don't think it did any favours.

Abbey's waltz didn't have much to improve on, not like her jive or even her own cha cha that to me faded in and out.

I have no idea about Sophie's either, it was too soon and like everyone said her neck always needed a bit extra, her Jive really could have been improved on as it was pretty rough.

I'm sure it's nothing to do with the judges and just the producers.
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