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Old 01-01-2014, 14:44
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Re: The Voice, is it me or is there no interest surrounding it? I find it hard to believe it starts in just 10 days but maybe now we're in 2014 hype will start to build.

I'm going for a ~7m launch.
Now Christmas and New year is done with the interest will build.
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Old 01-01-2014, 14:45
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Lol slightly edited Voice trailer aired after Gangster Granny just now. Check it out funny
Is that The Voice trailer with the second baby? I think it's a better trailer than the ones they used for series one and two.
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Old 01-01-2014, 14:46
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I remember Michael Grade talking about when he took over BBC1. He said the channel had some good programmes but they were in the wrong places. He increased BBC1 ratings when he joined just by moving a few programmes around.

When I looked at BBC1's schedule for Christmas I did think they had enough there to do better than they did. Christmas Eve is a perfect example. A weak schedule produced weak ratings.
Not that weak were they? Not blockbuster certainly but better than a normal Tuesday overall.
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Old 01-01-2014, 14:47
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Some extraordinary reaction here today.

All this wailing because an extraordinarily spectacular firework display, which takes huge amounts of planning and work, and is watched the whole world over, couldn't possibly deserve to be more watched than a load of Z list celebrities sitting around in their pants.
Indeed the bitterness is just too funny.
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Old 01-01-2014, 14:54
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It's not as if the Fireworks were even that good though!

Its the same every year, blow up the London Eye with music. Hong Kong, Dubai and Sydney were world class. London looked a bit meh.

Cannot believe an actual proper nightclub switched BBC1, thats just embarassing, dread to think what the clientele is like

I did enjoy Graham Norton and the 'proposal' last night
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Old 01-01-2014, 14:58
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Last year The Voice launched at 6.2m up against Takeaway's 7.2m on Easter Saturday. The peak was way out in front of the average, suggesting that had Takeaway not dented it, it would probably have averaged c7m. This year there's no Takeaway, it isn't launching on Easter Saturday and is in fact launching in January. Based on that, given that launching on Easter weekend probably knocked a few hundred thousand off and the time of year is better, it really should be looking to launch at 7.5-8m given those factors. The last 3 audition shows that avoided major competition last year averaged 7.9-8.0m so that hardly seems unreasonable. That's before you even consider the effect of the new coaches, especially Kylie. I'd suggest it has a good chance of matching the 8.4m series 1 launched at, but Splash (which I can see dropping to around 4m, depending on how this weekend goes) will probably just hold it back from doing that, so on the whole I think it should be looking to launch around 8 million.
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Old 01-01-2014, 15:07
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It's not as if the Fireworks were even that good though!

Its the same every year, blow up the London Eye with music. Hong Kong, Dubai and Sydney were world class. London looked a bit meh.

Cannot believe an actual proper nightclub switched BBC1, thats just embarassing, dread to think what the clientele is like

I did enjoy Graham Norton and the 'proposal' last night
I think you're being unfair regarding London's fireworks. Sydney infact were very similar with theirs. Same old monument being used same style soundtrack and so on. With Dubai, the most familiar skyscrapers were used, but in honesty, would you really be able to tell that Dubai's was more expensive than Londons?

I think you have it in your head that you dislike the London Fireworks for some reason only known to you, and regardless of how good they were, you decided that you didn't like before they were even lit.
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Old 01-01-2014, 15:09
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So it takes an organised firework display and the turn of the calendar to become the most watched programme of 2013. What does that say about the quality of original programming in the UK?
Oooh pretty lights!

A couple of things. Had Barlow's concert been shown on BBC1 in the middle of summer it wouldn't have achieved such ratings.

The BBC has managed to provide a yearly firework coverage on NYE which creates a very useful background visual for people celebrating and staying indoors/texting/calling loved ones.

Some may say it's the BBC providing its best public service of the year.

The ratings show that people were tuning in to have that on TV - which happened to allow Barlow his moment of ratings glory.
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Old 01-01-2014, 15:09
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Strong launch of programmes from BBC One there in the trailer. "EastEnders" is promoted this year, so Moore must want it at the forefront of her channel. There are some good series amongst the trail. I hope "The Voice" will be better during this run. "Doctor Who" also featuring, a shame we cant just have a new run in January.
It's had more trailers in the past month than it's had in years, they've released another one today, 'Meet the Carters'. It's good to see the BBC finally putting some effort into its promotion, shame it hasn't made any difference to the ratings (yet.)
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Old 01-01-2014, 15:13
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It's not as if the Fireworks were even that good though!

Its the same every year, blow up the London Eye with music. Hong Kong, Dubai and Sydney were world class. London looked a bit meh.

Cannot believe an actual proper nightclub switched BBC1, thats just embarassing, dread to think what the clientele is like

I did enjoy Graham Norton and the 'proposal' last night
It doesn't seem odd at all that pubs and clubs show it on a big screen (or even a small screen). BBC1 have loud pop/dance music to the fireworks so it fits right into a club environment. I expect another 2 or 3million could be added to the TV overnight numbers via clubs/pubs. You don't have to be starring at the screen the entire time you can still wish happy new year to people.
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Old 01-01-2014, 15:41
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Oooh pretty lights!

A couple of things. Had Barlow's concert been shown on BBC1 in the middle of summer it wouldn't have achieved such ratings.
And IAC wouldn't have had 13.05m in high summer either.

Nor, it should be said, if BBC1 hadn't decided to broadcast a worthy and boring history documentary about the British and the sea opposite it.
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Old 01-01-2014, 15:42
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Oooh pretty lights!

A couple of things. Had Barlow's concert been shown on BBC1 in the middle of summer it wouldn't have achieved such ratings.

The BBC has managed to provide a yearly firework coverage on NYE which creates a very useful background visual for people celebrating and staying indoors/texting/calling loved ones.

Some may say it's the BBC providing its best public service of the year.

The ratings show that people were tuning in to have that on TV - which happened to allow Barlow his moment of ratings glory.
Maybe a little unfair to Barlow. Obviously the mega ratings came from people tuning in for the fireworks but they did not tune in half an hour early - his ratings must have been good throughout.
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Old 01-01-2014, 15:58
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This post-Fireworks slot is going to be like BBC1's version of the post Super Bowl slot...
You've said some ridiculous things in your time Samuel but this is right up there.

Sherlock would never average 12m in overnights, as a final rating it could be possible. Butthe highest it has been so far is 10.66m in official ratings.
Surely on course for a series high with episode one tonight though when all is said and done.

The great thing about BBC One is that they are guaranteed about 6 live one-off events per year which we already know before the year starts will most likely be in the Top 10-15 End of Year Most Watched charts...
You realise that more than half of your list isn't actually guaranteed to happen every year (and in fact definitely won't happen every year) right?

Re: The Voice, is it me or is there no interest surrounding it? I find it hard to believe it starts in just 10 days but maybe now we're in 2014 hype will start to build.

I'm going for a ~7m launch.
As other have said the BBC still have time before the series 3 launch to build some interest and promotion seems to have gone into high gear today. Personally I'm more concerned (although that's not the right word) about Splash and Dancing on Ice which both launch this weekend and seem to have been completely lost in the Christmas/New Year shuffle.
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Old 01-01-2014, 15:59
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Last year The Voice launched at 6.2m up against Takeaway's 7.2m on Easter Saturday. The peak was way out in front of the average, suggesting that had Takeaway not dented it, it would probably have averaged c7m. This year there's no Takeaway, it isn't launching on Easter Saturday and is in fact launching in January. Based on that, given that launching on Easter weekend probably knocked a few hundred thousand off and the time of year is better, it really should be looking to launch at 7.5-8m given those factors. The last 3 audition shows that avoided major competition last year averaged 7.9-8.0m so that hardly seems unreasonable. That's before you even consider the effect of the new coaches, especially Kylie. I'd suggest it has a good chance of matching the 8.4m series 1 launched at, but Splash (which I can see dropping to around 4m, depending on how this weekend goes) will probably just hold it back from doing that, so on the whole I think it should be looking to launch around 8 million.
To be perfectly honest I agree. around 8m or a high 7m. It's got a nice slot, it's got nice promotion and it's got a week of promotion away from christmas. The new Judges or whatever they are, and the fact it's january. It has to launch high. I'd be very disappointed and worried if it didn't.

Thursdays are going to be interesting, both ITV and BBC One have a good looking scheduled. I think ITV will just win that one.

BBC One overall looks the stronger channel in primetime but ITV looks okay. I'm fascinated to see how Waterloo Road does on wednesday and how EastEnders does in it's usual slot's.
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Old 01-01-2014, 16:05
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A repost might be a good idea...

New Year's Eve 2013

BBC One
06:00 - Breakfast: 1.25m (38.6%)
09:10 - Bee Movie: 1.69m (24.1%)
10:30 - Beverly Hills Chihuahua: 1.14m (13.9%)
12:00 - Bargain Hunt: 1.82m (19.0%)
13:00 - BBC News: 2.95m (28.2%)
13:15 - Regional News: 3.10m (29.2%)
13:20 - The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian: 1.83m (17.2%)
15:35 - Kung Fu Panda: Secrets of the Furious Five: 1.55m (12.6%)
16:00 - How to Train Your Dragon: 2.47m (16.4%)
17:30 - Top of the Pops New Year: 3.00m (15.8%)
18:30 - BBC News: 5.45m (26.3%)
18:45 - Regional News: 5.61m (27.0%)
19:00 - Celebrity Mastermind: 3.87m (18.3%)
19:30 - EastEnders: 6.15m (29.3%)
20:00 - Holby City: 3.75m (18.5%)
21:00 - Two Doors Down: 3.00m (15.4%)
22:00 - BBC News: 4.17m (22.3%)
22:15 - The Graham Norton Show: 4.76m (26.6%)
* Peak - 5.92m (34.2%) at 23:05.

23:15 - Gary Barlow's Big Ben Bash: 6.76m (38.4%)
23:15 - 5.75m (33.9%)
23:20 - 6.01m (35.6%)
23:25 - 6.30m (36.7%)
23:30 - 6.33m (36.5%)
23:35 - 6.52m (37.3%)
23:40 - 6.48m (36.6%)
23:45 - 7.61m (41.6%)
23:50 - 9.09m (47.6%)


23:55 - New Year's Eve Fireworks: 13.70m (67.5%)
23:55 - 12.17m (60.1%)
24:00 - 14.51m (70.1%)
24:05 - 14.42m (72.3%)


24:10 - Gary Barlow's Big Ben Bash: 10.21m (58.5%)
24:10 - 13.23m (68.3%)
24:15 - 10.50m (59.3%)
24:20 - 9.04m (53.8%)
24:25 - 8.08m (50.7%)


24:30 - John Bishop Live: Rollercoaster Tour: 3.35m (32.5%)
24:30 - 6.77m (45.5%)
24:35 - 4.40m (32.4%)
24:40 - 4.02m (30.9%)
24:45 - 3.82m (30.6%)
...
25:45 - 2.16m (31.0%)


BBC One Scotland
23:50 - 1.02m (64.1%)
23:55 - 1.16m (70.3%)
24:00 - 1.29m (78.2%)
24:05 - 1.26m (77.4%)
24:10 - 1.06m (67.6%)


BBC Two
14:00 - First Knight: 0.85m (7.6%)
16:05 - The Queen's Palaces: 1.00m (6.9%)
17:05 - Flog It!: 2.18m (12.4%)
18:00 - Celebrity Eggheads: 2.48m (12.6%)
18:30 - Blackpool: Big Night Out: 1.31m (6.3%)
19:30 - Christmas University Challenge: 2.41m (11.5%)
20:00 - Nature's Weirdest Events: 2.22m (11.0%)
21:00 - Tudor Monastery Farm Christmas: 1.57m (8.1%)
22:00 - Mock the Week: 1.07m (5.7%)
22:30 - Dara O Briain - Craic Dealer: 1.12m (6.4%)
23:30 - Jools's Annual Hootenanny: 2.56m (18.6%)
23:30 - 2.04m (11.7%)
23:35 - 2.29m (13.1%)
23:40 - 2.57m (14.5%)
23:45 - 2.94m (16.1%)
23:50 - 3.09m (16.2%)
23:55 - 2.65m (13.1%)
24:00 - 2.14m (10.3%)
24:05 - 1.90m (9.5%)
24:10 - 2.14m (11.0%)
24:15 - 2.51m (14.2%)
24:20 - 2.78m (16.5%)
24:25 - 2.87m (18.0%)
24:30 - 3.19m (21.4%)
24:35 - 4.02m (29.7%)
24:40 - 3.79m (29.1%)
24:45 - 3.44m (27.6%)
...
25:45 - 1.55m (22.4%)


ITV (inc +1)
06:00 - Daybreak: 0.36m (13.9%)
08:30 - Lorraine: 0.79m (13.3%)
09:25 - Scooby-Doo and the Alien Invaders: 0.51m (7.0%)
11:00 - Dickinson's Real Deal: 0.75m (8.8%)
12:00 - All Star Family Fortunes: 0.88m (9.4%)
12:45 - ITV News: 0.87m (8.5%)
13:05 - The 'Burbs: 0.59m (5.7%)
15:00 - The Cube: Celebrity Special: 0.59m (5.0%)
16:00 - The Nation's Favourite Dance Moment: 1.29m (8.6%)
17:30 - Off Their Rockers: 1.57m (8.6%)
18:00 - You've Been Framed!: 2.37m (12.1%)
18:30 - Regional News: 3.27m (15.8%)
18:45 - ITV News: 3.86m (18.5%)
19:00 - Emmerdale: 5.90m (28.0%)
19:30 - Aussie Animal Island: 2.02m (9.6%)
20:00 - Mamma Mia!: 2.34m (11.9%)
22:10 - ITV News: 1.55m (8.3%)
22:15 - 2013: a Funny Old Year: 1.55m (8.6%)
23:15 - Vicious: 0.80m (4.6%)
23:45 - ITV News: 0.88m (4.5%)
24:05 - Waterworld: 0.38m (3.3%)

Channel 4 (inc +1)
13:55 - Home Alone 3: 1.22m (10.9%)
16:00 - Deal or No Deal: 1.55m (10.9%)
17:00 - Celebrity Come Dine with Me: Footballers Special: 1.53m (8.8%)
18:00 - The Simpsons: 1.22m (6.2%)
18:25 - Hollyoaks: 0.88m (4.2%)
18:55 - Channel 4 News: 0.48m (2.3%)
19:00 - Deal or No Deal: Christmas Stars: 0.98m (4.7%)
20:00 - Celebrity Fifteen to One: 1.60m (7.9%)
21:00 - Alan Carr's New Year Specstacular: 1.63m (8.6%)
23:05 - 50 Funniest Moments of 2013: 0.73m (4.4%)
25:05 - Toast of London: 0.09m (1.0%)
25:30 - Toast of London: 0.03m (0.5%)

Channel 5 (inc +1)
14:50 - Pal Joey: 0.54m (4.2%)
17:00 - Seven Brides for Seven Brothers: 0.99m (5.3%)
19:00 - The Gadget Show: 0.68m (3.2%)
20:00 - World's Strongest Man: 1.29m (6.4%)
21:00 - Greatest Stand-Up Comedians: 1.06m (5.7%)
23:50 - The Plank: 0.26m (1.6%)
24:55 - SuperCasino: 0.02m (0.2%)

All-day shares (06:00-24:00, inc +1)
BBC One: 21.6%
BBC Two: 8.4%
ITV: 10.3%
Channel 4: 7.2%
Channel 5: 4.6%
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Old 01-01-2014, 16:09
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And IAC wouldn't have had 13.05m in high summer either.

Nor, it should be said, if BBC1 hadn't decided to broadcast a worthy and boring history documentary about the British and the sea opposite it.
I'm A Celebrity's freakishly high launch rating was achieved by the aid of some terrible scheduling on BBC1. We all know this.
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Old 01-01-2014, 16:13
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Last year The Voice launched at 6.2m up against Takeaway's 7.2m on Easter Saturday. The peak was way out in front of the average, suggesting that had Takeaway not dented it, it would probably have averaged c7m. This year there's no Takeaway, it isn't launching on Easter Saturday and is in fact launching in January. Based on that, given that launching on Easter weekend probably knocked a few hundred thousand off and the time of year is better, it really should be looking to launch at 7.5-8m given those factors. The last 3 audition shows that avoided major competition last year averaged 7.9-8.0m so that hardly seems unreasonable. That's before you even consider the effect of the new coaches, especially Kylie. I'd suggest it has a good chance of matching the 8.4m series 1 launched at, but Splash (which I can see dropping to around 4m, depending on how this weekend goes) will probably just hold it back from doing that, so on the whole I think it should be looking to launch around 8 million.
To be perfectly honest I agree. around 8m or a high 7m. It's got a nice slot, it's got nice promotion and it's got a week of promotion away from christmas. The new Judges or whatever they are, and the fact it's january. It has to launch high. I'd be very disappointed and worried if it didn't.
The Voice should be getting at least 8m, if it doesn't then it's a flop.

I refuse to take seriously anybody saying 6m is a good figure if they criticised The X Factor for only getting high 8m figures on Saturday and 9m on a Sunday.

January is a high rating month so The Voice should be doing well there.
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Old 01-01-2014, 16:13
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14.4 million for the fireworks, excellent, but is 3.3 pc a record low for ITV? Last night their bog standard schedule deserved to do badly against an excellent line up on BBC One, also well done to Gary Barlow.
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Old 01-01-2014, 16:16
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Why wait that long? There are Burns night fireworks, st Patricks day fireworks, 4th of July, etc

Why not just open a 24 hour rolling fireworks channel too?
Please don't give anyone any ideas
Can you imagine the fireworks in here if they did.

Need to a bit of light heartedness in here after the OTT reaction from earlier.
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Old 01-01-2014, 16:29
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Looks like we have crowned the ratings winner for the next few years bar national events
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Old 01-01-2014, 16:36
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Looks like we have crowned the ratings winner for the next few years bar national events
Nothing should be crowned until the final rating comes out.

What do you the think will happen tonight? Will EastEnders be up? Will Sherlock get over 9m?
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Old 01-01-2014, 16:36
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The Voice should be getting at least 8m, if it doesn't then it's a flop.

I refuse to take seriously anybody saying 6m is a good figure if they criticised The X Factor for only getting high 8m figures on Saturday and 9m on a Sunday.

January is a high rating month so The Voice should be doing well there.
If any other new show came in and got six million plus it would be considered a hit.

What did X Factor get in it's series three?

People judge X Factor by where it was in ratings for a number of years.

The Voice has had a rollacoaster In the ratings due to playing cat and Mouse with BGT on scheduling.

A January start is most logical it should do well there but any comparison with previous years is like comparing apples and oranges.

New schedule, new presenters, two of four judges changed, different competition.

If it gets 7 million for example that is not a flop.
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Old 01-01-2014, 16:38
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8 million for Sherlock tonight. My prediction.
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Old 01-01-2014, 16:44
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Happy 2014 to you all, EastEnders may get promoted a lot but people are using that as a cue to switch channel.

Also I think Sherlock will do well tonight as its the return of real programs. Harry Potter is a good film but I want something made for TV and not a movie I have on DVD.
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Old 01-01-2014, 16:44
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Nothing should be crowned until the final rating comes out.

What do you the think will happen tonight? Will EastEnders be up? Will Sherlock get over 9m?
I went with 7.5m for EE and 8.9m for Sherlock in the RPG. I may be on the mark with Sherlock but I definitely underpredicted EE I think.
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