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The Ratings Thread (Part 56)
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yorkie100
25-12-2013
So as usual each side is claiming that the other side is going to win - its Xmas have a day off. In the long term tommorrows ratings are not going to mean much. I am sure EE is on the up and CTM/DA will continue with successful series. ED and CS will go on to with large numbers and MBB is the only really funny sitcom that we are likely to see a further series of.
SamuelW
25-12-2013
Let's not forget Doctor Who has underperformed in the Xmas Day overnights the last 2 years. In 2011, it averaged 8.9m in a 7pm slot against All Star Family Fortunes - that episode was at the time expected to get over 10million against that weak competition. This year, it is facing Coro St. which will get about 2-3m more viewers than ASFF did a couple years ago. Now I know it's a Regeneration episode but take into account the tougher competition, uninspiring lead-in and increased PVR usage since 2011, DW may not rate as well as some are hoping.
Charnham
25-12-2013
EE should be doing 9 million, however Downton Abbey continues to be a strong performer and really is ITVs best bet for Christmas, so EE may infact struggle to reach 9 million this year, 9.2 tops is my thinking.

As for Doctor Who, Matt Smith has never had the pulling power of David Tennant, and he has had more than his fair share of dodgy scripts as well.

I could see Downton topping the night TBH.
Doctor Bench
25-12-2013
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Looking at these 2006 ratings just before Xmas Day, EE was beating Corrie: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...2&postcount=31”

Yes, but overall EastEnders was on 9m, whilst Corrie had 10/11 million. The former always emerges on top, regardless of its overall annual performance.

2004 saw Corrie extend its lead over EE as well, but couldn't manage it for Xmas either.

I'm not justifying the awful state of the show this past year, but Corrie (against Doctor Who) is unlikely to beat EE.
yorkie100
25-12-2013
Actually after the last few days I am thinking I may have overestimsted my predictions by 0.5-1m. Maybe no show over 9m.

#1 MBB 8.9m
#2 DW 8.6m
#3 EE/CS 8.4m
SamuelW
25-12-2013
Originally Posted by Doctor Bench:
“Yes, but overall EastEnders was on 9m, whilst Corrie had 10/11 million. The former always emerges on top, regardless of its overall annual performance.

2004 saw Corrie extend its lead over EE as well, but couldn't manage it for Xmas either.”

Coro normally wins most of the year round and has done for most of the last decade. But in previous years, when it comes to the Xmas season, EE closes the gap or even overtakes Coro St before the main day. Having done research about this yesterday, EE has never been behind Corrie by as much as 1.5million for at least in the last 8 years so close to Xmas Day. On most occasions, momentum took EE ahead of Coro before the big day itself. This year however, EE just about scraped 7.5million on Xmas Eve and on Monday was over a million behind its rival. Im not going to dispute EE will get a rise tonight, of course it will, but will the rise be enough to overcome its rival? Never in the last decade has EE been in such a bad position heading into the Big Day itself. Also may I remind you that Coro got 8.8million a couple of years ago against the massive David Tennant Regeneration episode of DW so Coro St has prior form in acquiring a substantial anti-Who audience when required.
yorkie100
25-12-2013
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“EE should be doing 9 million, however Downton Abbey continues to be a strong performer and really is ITVs best bet for Christmas, so EE may infact struggle to reach 9 million this year, 9.2 tops is my thinking.

As for Doctor Who, Matt Smith has never had the pulling power of David Tennant, and he has had more than his fair share of dodgy scripts as well.

I could see Downton topping the night TBH.”

I think DA could top the consolidated ratings but it will have to improve a lot on overnights from last year. It depends how much goodwill there is after DWs 50th - how many of the 10m overnight will return?
dazza89
25-12-2013
I am hoping ratings are down across the board, give the BBC and ITV a kick up the arse to do something different next year.
ThinkingLucky
25-12-2013
BBC just aired a promo for The Voice between Strictly and Call The Midwife.
iaindb
25-12-2013
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“The plan in this house...

17:00 - Strictly Come Dancing (LIVE, BBC1)
18:15 - Emmerdale (LIVE, ITV)
19:15 - ITV News (LIVE, ITV)
19:30 - Coronation Street (LIVE, ITV)
=> me watching Doctor Who (LIVE, BBC1 via iPlayer), lost vote 3-1
20:30 - EastEnders (LIVE, BBC1)
21:30 - Mrs Brown's Boys (LIVE, BBC1)
22:05 - free for all/Sky+ I guess
=> Call the Midwife and Downton Abbey going on record”

That's practically the same in this house except:

- for Strictly read For The Love Of Dogs
- me outvoted 2-1 on Doctor Who
- 22.05 will probably be McIntyre for a bit before going to bed
- no recording Downton. Nobody watches it in this house.
Benjamin Sisko
25-12-2013
The promise of Peter Capaldi as an older Doctor, and as such has been featured in recent BBC trailers may push Doctor Who's older demographic up however - and interest as a whole is still riding on the coat tails of the 50th.

Regardless, DW is almost guaranteed a 2.5 million increase on timeshift.
Doctor Bench
25-12-2013
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Coro normally wins most of the year round and has done for most of the last decade. But in previous years, when it comes to the Xmas season, EE closes the gap or even overtakes Coro St before the main day. Having done research about this yesterday, EE has never been behind Corrie by as much as 1.5million for at least in the last 8 years so close to Xmas Day. On most occasions, momentum took EE ahead of Coro before the big day itself. This year however, EE just about scraped 7.5million on Xmas Eve and on Monday was over a million behind its rival. Im not going to dispute EE will get a rise tonight, of course it will, but will the rise be enough to overcome its rival? Never in the last decade has EE been in such a bad position heading into the Big Day itself. Also may I remind you that Coro got 8.8million a couple of years ago against the massive David Tennant Regeneration episode of DW so Coro St has prior form in acquiring a substantial anti-Who audience when required.”

Fair enough.
RobbieSykes123
25-12-2013
Seeing as others have posted, these were my DSRPG predictions:

#1. Mrs Brown's - 9.1m
#2. EastEnders - 8.9m
#3. Dr Who - 8.3m
#4. Downton - 8.2m
#5. Corrie - 7.8m
#6. Midwife - 7.1m
#7. Strictly - 6.9m
#8. Queen - 9.2m combined [but 6.7m on BBC1 gives it 8th]
#9. Toy Story 3 - 6.1m
#10. Em - 5.9m
#11. McIntyre - 5.0m

I think I might have been too hard on Corrie - as others have pointed out, DW is quite polarising and whilst it will take family dominated viewing homes away from Corrie, the oldies out there aren't going to watch DW even if the new Doctor is getting on a bit.

With cutesy dogs, the comfort blanket of the Yorkshire country folk, the pensioners' staple at 7.30 and then the dull paint drying period misery of Downton, ITV has a perfect line up tonight for the sanatogen-enhanced demographic.

In nursing homes across the land, button no 3 could be pressed in the TV room at 5.15 and left be all night till bedtime - staff will think it's Christmas Day!

(oh, hang on... )

I have a feeling Corrie could well be a million higher than I've gone for, depressing DW and the rest of the BBC1 line up that follows all night as DA gets a lead-in lift.

Corrie could win the night actually - even though it will fail to get 9m. Of course, +1 could come into play and allow ITV to proclaim a victory even if they didn't actually have the most watched programme of the night.

It could be carnage tomorrow on here...
H of De Vil
25-12-2013
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Seeing as others have posted, these were my DSRPG predictions:

#1. Mrs Brown's - 9.1m
#2. EastEnders - 8.9m
#3. Dr Who - 8.3m
#4. Downton - 8.2m
#5. Corrie - 7.8m
#6. Midwife - 7.1m
#7. Strictly - 6.9m
#8. Queen - 9.2m combined [but 6.7m on BBC1 gives it 8th]
#9. Toy Story 3 - 6.1m
#10. Em - 5.9m
#11. McIntyre - 5.0m

I think I might have been too hard on Corrie - as others have pointed out, DW is quite polarising and whilst it will take family dominated viewing homes away from Corrie, the oldies out there aren't going to watch DW even if the new Doctor is getting on a bit.

With cutesy dogs, the comfort blanket of the Yorkshire country folk, the pensioners' staple at 7.30 and then the dull paint drying period misery of Downton, ITV has a perfect line up tonight for the sanatogen-enhanced demographic.

In nursing homes across the land, button no 3 could be pressed in the TV room and left be all night till bedtime - staff will think it's Christmas Day!

(oh, hang on... )

I have a feeling Corrie could well be a million higher than I've gone for, depressing DW and the rest of the BBC1 line up that follows all night as DA gets a lead-in lift.

Corrie could win the night actually - even though it will fail to get 9m. Of course, +1 could come into play and allow ITV to proclaim a victory even if they didn't actually have the most watched programme of the night.

It could be carnage tomorrow on here...”


Well apparently ITV and BBC1 had that sort of line up last night, but that didn't rate that well.
robjames69
25-12-2013
Id love EE to win, but im scared. Nevertheless I think EE will do well on social media with Dyer and Janine's exit
RobbieSykes123
25-12-2013
EmFm makes depressing viewing (naturally, being back en famille, it will be a night of soaps with the possibility of upsetting grandma by subjecting her to Mrs Brown's at 9.30); what exactly is the appeal of this hammed up chav-obsessed corny old rubbish?

EE gets a hard time on here - I suspect that it will offer far more in the way of believable credible drama than this old baloney (and the promise of the usual hackneyed northern/Manc caricatures in Corrie still to come...)

Still, we could do with getting a new bed in the sales - at least I have a purpose for watching ITV tonight....
Agent F
25-12-2013
Originally Posted by robjames69:
“Id love EE to win, but im scared.”

It's not real life.
James J
25-12-2013
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“EmFm makes depressing viewing (naturally, being back en famille, it will be a night of soaps with the possibility of upsetting grandma by subjecting her to Mrs Brown's at 9.30); what exactly is the appeal of this hammed up chav-obsessed corny old rubbish?

EE gets a hard time on here - I suspect that it will offer far more in the way of believable credible drama than this old baloney (and the promise of the usual hackneyed northern/Manc caricatures in Corrie still to come...)

Still, we could do with getting a new bed in the sales - at least I have a purpose for watching ITV tonight....”

Keep the reviews up!

I like that Val on Emmerdale. Otherwise it's a bit Big Fat Gypsy Wedding meets Shameless isn't it? Background material, but not better than EastEnders was last night IMO. Definitely the 3rd soap atm.

Hope something starts burning soon to liven it up.
xeo
25-12-2013
I think there has been a total of three adverts during Emmerdale tonight
dan2008
25-12-2013
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“EmFm makes depressing viewing (naturally, being back en famille, it will be a night of soaps with the possibility of upsetting grandma by subjecting her to Mrs Brown's at 9.30); what exactly is the appeal of this hammed up chav-obsessed corny old rubbish?

EE gets a hard time on here - I suspect that it will offer far more in the way of believable credible drama than this old baloney (and the promise of the usual hackneyed northern/Manc caricatures in Corrie still to come...)

Still, we could do with getting a new bed in the sales - at least I have a purpose for watching ITV tonight....”

We have Emmerdale on for the first time in years (xmas day) back to BBC1 at 7:30 though.
mintbro
25-12-2013
Call the Midwwife is really feeling out of place
dan2008
25-12-2013
Originally Posted by mintbro:
“Call the Midwwife is really feeling out of place”

I think it is anyway.
I don't think that or Downton should be on xmas day tbh. More xmas eve or boxing day shows.
CTM might have been better starting at 5 and having Strictly at 6:15 if it's a must on xmas day.

Call the midwife is trending on twitter though while Emmerdale isn't.(yet)
mintbro
25-12-2013
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“I think it is anyway.
I don't think that or Downton should be on xmas day tbh. More xmas eve or boxing day shows.
CTM might have been better starting at 5 and having Strictly at 6:15 if it's a must on xmas day.

Call the midwife is trending on twitter though while Emmerdale isn't.(yet)”

It's madness that the biggest entertainment show went out at 5.00pm
RobbieSykes123
25-12-2013
Originally Posted by xeo:
“I think there has been a total of three adverts during Emmerdale tonight ”

I'm only watching for the ads!

ITV just trailed the episode of EmFm that's just finished and last night's Midsomer.

Now about to watch an ITV news bulletin. That's rare for me! How unusual of ITV to show some PSB news reporting commitment by airing 3x 15 minute news bulletins on this most competitive of ratings days - and with the big story being weather related it should pay ratings dividends....
lewiep93
25-12-2013
1. Mrs Brown’s Boys 10.4m
2. Doctor Who 10.3m
3. EastEnders 10.1m
4. Coronation Street 8.2m
5. Downton Abbey 8.0m
6. Toy Story 3 8.0m
7. The Queen 7.9m
8. Strictly Come Dancing 7.0m
9. Call the Midwife 6.8m
10. Michael McIntyre’s Showtime 6.6m
11. Emmerdale 5.5m
12. Paul O’Grady: For the Love of Dogs 3.4m

These were my predictions, think I went a bit overboard but I could be proven wrong.
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