I'm not sure The Taste will launch that well. C4 haven't had much luck in the cookery genre for a while now and it seems to more factual stuff that works for them rather than straight up entertainment.

Nigella may help - but at the end of the day, she's not snorting coke live on air. She's not going to say anything about it. If anything, she'll seem a bit dull compared to recent revelations. I'm not convinced recent news will bring in a huge audience for it.

EDIT: On a sweeping glance, Twitter response seems good.

I agree...I think the predictions on here are far too optimistic.
After watching it i'm going back to my original prediction of somewhere between 2 and 2.4 million.

I think alot of people would have tuned out(I did, albeit only 10 mins before the end).

Forget scheduling, EastEnders does NOT deserve to win Best Soap. The award is for the previous year and Corrie deserves it more, for the incredible Hayley & Roy storyline. EE will probably win 0 awards at the Soap Awards too, if it's supposed to be an honest review of the previous year.

Don't get me wrong, EE is back - but 2013 was awful.

I'm sure Danny Dyer will get "Best Newcomer" at the Soap Awards - they seem to have a habit of giving it to people who've been in the business for years. (Well, I'm sure they did it at least once!) And technically he wouldn't even be a soap newcomer as he appeared in Hollyoaks Later first.


And to vaguely put this back on topic is there any evidence success at such awards is reflected in the ratings. I doubt it makes the blind bit of difference for Corrie or EastEnders, but might benefit the lesser soaps a bit more.

Generally yes but at this time of year with Sherlock/CTM/The Musketeers/Antiques Roadshow/Countryfile - Sundays not always.

If ITV have any sense that episode of Corrie we expect to be displaced for the NTAs on 22nd Jan would air at 8pm on Sun 19th (think they did that before, pushing CTM to 8.30pm). Would mess up the crucial Monday double though with Hayleys death unless it had been filmed with that in mind - not sure if ITV would have worked out that was CTMs return date when those were filmed.

They could always pull next Wednesdays episode, beginning the FA Cup coverage half an hour earlier, then bump the second Friday edition to the Sunday instead. DoI could probably do with the extra 15 minutes too as it'll be their first show with all the celebs competing.

Is there a bit of expectation lowering going on here ? Purely on the basis that Four spent shitloads marketing it and it's got key talent like Lawson attached I don't think it's unreasonable to expect it to do a bit better than that for the premiere at least. A one-off shock doc did 2.4m at 10PM for them last night, albeit with a 4m+ lead-in. But that's a lot of eyeballs being exposed to promos for the show.

I don't think you have any reason to worry as I fully expect it will do around 3m across C4 Total. It could plausibly do much better than that. It's not as if either BBC One or ITV were likely to be firing on all cylinders in the 9PM hour, so an ideal slot for Four to post a big audience for their heavily marketed new format.

Channel 5 will be hoping for another increase for the live "eviction" tomorrow, which could boost the rest of the week's ratings, if it's executed well.

Just a reminder (as this is something else I had forgotten):

Don't Stop Believing
Sundays, Channel 5

Sources: DS, this thread

Moving it late for the cricket and then early for the cricket in mid-run did for it, although perhaps in any case it needed to do better numbers from the off to make it pay.

I thought it was a tad dull, I would have gone straight to the cooking rounds if I was C4 and totally avoided the audition rounds.
I agree 3m incl + 1 should be the minimum given the promotion.

Thanks for these. Yes, numbers were expected, particularly by Desmond, to be far higher. Shares and numbers were awful in comparison to the shows costs, though as you say, scheduling was against it. 2.4%! Definitely a show to forget for C5.

It's too soon for a live show, tonight's highlights flew by and tomorrow they will have to be condensed to fit all that nonsense in meaning we could miss out on some good footage in order to accommodate what is essentially filler, as much as I adore Emma. Besides, the whole fake eviction thing has been done to death now. If any of the housemates are regular viewers they will probably suss it out within minutes if the pair that is "evicted" is unexpected, or the nature of the "eviction" is suspect, rendering the whole thing entirely pointless.

Isn't the audition process essentially the central point of the show though - then like The Voice they have to make up the rest to flesh it out to a series.

Normally I would agree, but because the love triangle has started tonight & has sent Twitter crazy, it's obvious that Casey and Lee will be voted into the secret room. If Lee tries it on with her, after doing whatever he did in the toilet with Jasmine tonight, then it'll be TV gold, boring twist or not.

Not really given that tonight is the one and only audition episode.

I wanted to get behind this because it was Five dipping their toe into studio based entertainment but it was truly awful. Production wise it wasn't too bad but the acts were just terrible and the format was a mess. In hindsight I don't think it was ever going to work, the Americans might be good at this kind of thing but we aren't. 7% share for episode one gave hope and at least a fair number gave it a chance but they didn't like what they saw and who can blame them!

Downton Season 4 premiere delivered 10.2m (6.2 household rating) in US !

Up on s3 premiere by 22%. Led PBS to tie with CBS as most watched Sunday network between 9-11PM.

Pretty good!

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...iewers/226882/

Also failed because ultimately the show had no purpose. X Factor and Britain's Got Talent have a definate prize for the winner, while Strictly and DoI had enough point of difference to make viewers care who wins it by the end. It might have had a chance had it been on E4 and they'd secured some kind of link up with Glee for the winners.

Just to say ref Sherlock. Fabulous figures and the perfect example of less is more. Three episodes every two years will make for true event tv.

Very good rating for Downton there.

Are they getting a snow/cold boost to their TV ratings in America, what with the polar vortex and everything? That football game on Sunday seemed to have very high ratings, can't see much else increased though.

Maybe the taste will improve over the series but for me it was dull! And I'm a fan of the cookery genre, surely the only thing the public can judge on with these food shows is the presentation it didn't have that, it was just words. I thought nigella would bring more, even she was pretty dull!

Interesting battle, and BBC1 again going for back to back Sunday period drama.

Musketeers seems totally out of place in that slot. It's got mid evening Saturday written all over it.

BBC1 bosses are simply putting it there to draw on the Midwife 10m+ inheritance.


Gosh, that's quite an uplift. Did 650,000 people really go out on new year but tape the festivities to watch later?

(OK, I did. But I'm odd. )


Even if it's 13.04m, it is patently obvious from the current consolidation that there was one bit of event TV in 2013 that stood head and shoulders, and more than a million viewers, above anything else - the 15 minutes either side of midnight for the new year fireworks on the BBC1 channel, whether you were watching the BBC1 fireworks from London or Edinburgh.

Same channel, same time, 14.4m viewers.

I'm a Celeb didn't hold a candle to it.

Even if IAC ends up topping the chart of 2013 by 13.05m to 13.04m for BBC1's except Scotland fireworks programme, I will regard "seeing in the new year on BBC1" as the UK's most watched bit of TV of 2013.

Because it plainly was!

And no resident ITVista, even GeorgeS, can argue against that.

I'd settle for five episodes every 12 months.

Best soap is for the year. Stunt,Episode,Storyline,Dramatic performance,Best exit are not.

Storyline Michaels Murder and Aftermath
Stunt/Spectacular scene-Phils crash i guess
Dramatic performance-Lindsey Coulson (Carols Cancer)
Single Episode-Xmas Day or Johnny Comes Out
Exit-Janine,Micheal or Carl
Will be put forward i reckon. Of course theres the sexy awards and Best Actor (Got feeling Michael French will be up) Actress and Newcomer will be Danny Dyer.

Last year they won 1 award for Adam Woodyatt Lifetime so stand a better chance this time i reckon.

It will still say Corrie beat EE last night and on Christmas day end of. +1 counts because its included in the official ratings catch up doesn't its that simple.

If all this is taken into account then LN should still be in a job now, the overnights had EE losing out in the ratings for months to ED yet the officials shown EE beat ED which still couldn't save LN from the sack.

Will please you to know Corrie is favourite with the bookies to win best soap this month.